Have you asked your kids about armed guards in schools?
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Just had an interesting discussion with my high-school aged son about this topic. His response is that they already are used to seeing armed police at the school. They aren't stationed there, but around enough to know them by name. His response about armed security guards was less positive. He was against that, and made a joke along the lines that mall cops shouldnt have guns. So it's nice to know that he respects the police, and that the local PD has more or less assigned an officer who the kids can get to know and trust. Edited by BrianRunsPhilly 2012-12-22 1:39 PM |
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![]() Nope but mine carry at school. Both go where that's legal and both looked into schools with that as one of the checklist of optional positive things they were looking for. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() DanielG - 2012-12-22 5:38 PM Nope but mine carry at school. Both go where that's legal and both looked into schools with that as one of the checklist of optional positive things they were looking for. Are we talkin' college? High school? Middle school? Just curious. |
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![]() ChineseDemocracy - 2012-12-22 8:01 PM DanielG - 2012-12-22 5:38 PM Nope but mine carry at school. Both go where that's legal and both looked into schools with that as one of the checklist of optional positive things they were looking for. Are we talkin' college? High school? Middle school? Just curious. College. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() DanielG - 2012-12-22 8:07 PM ChineseDemocracy - 2012-12-22 8:01 PM College. DanielG - 2012-12-22 5:38 PM Nope but mine carry at school. Both go where that's legal and both looked into schools with that as one of the checklist of optional positive things they were looking for. Are we talkin' college? High school? Middle school? Just curious. That's one heck of a college. I can honestly say I only met a handful of people (amongst hundreds) during my college days that I'd actually trust with a firearm on a college campus. I just remember my college days...there was a good amount of alcohol...emotions could be swinging with lots of hormonally-crazed 18-21 year olds...I just know I felt very safe on a campus where students did not carry. ...now if this college you speak of is a military academy, by all means, seems fine to carry. But a regular, civilian campus? It just seems extreme to me. Just my 2 cents.
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![]() ChineseDemocracy - 2012-12-22 8:36 PM DanielG - 2012-12-22 8:07 PM ChineseDemocracy - 2012-12-22 8:01 PM College. DanielG - 2012-12-22 5:38 PM Nope but mine carry at school. Both go where that's legal and both looked into schools with that as one of the checklist of optional positive things they were looking for. Are we talkin' college? High school? Middle school? Just curious. That's one heck of a college. I can honestly say I only met a handful of people (amongst hundreds) during my college days that I'd actually trust with a firearm on a college campus. I just remember my college days...there was a good amount of alcohol...emotions could be swinging with lots of hormonally-crazed 18-21 year olds...I just know I felt very safe on a campus where students did not carry. ...now if this college you speak of is a military academy, by all means, seems fine to carry. But a regular, civilian campus? It just seems extreme to me. Just my 2 cents.
Nope, two different colleges in two different states. It's not all that rare. You do know that "hormonally-crazed" 18-20 year olds can't carry in most states, right? |
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![]() I talked to my son (first grader) yesterday while I was reading the NRA thread. My first reaction was the same as many others - that the children would feel scared and intimidated by an armed officer in the building. In talking with my husband he said the school already has an armed resource officer on the premises. I didn't know that! So I asked my son what he thought about Officer X. After we got passed the why is my mom asking me these questions part of the conversation he said he likes him, he is nice, he teaches us about bullies and keeps me safe from the bad guys. I asked him if anything about Officer X seems scary, sometimes children are afraid of Firemen or Police Officers because of their uniforms (tried not to lead him too much about the gun the officer carries). He said Nope. I'm not used to seeing an armed person walking around but my son is. It's no big deal to him. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() trigal38 - 2012-12-22 8:13 PM I talked to my son (first grader) yesterday while I was reading the NRA thread. My first reaction was the same as many others - that the children would feel scared and intimidated by an armed officer in the building. In talking with my husband he said the school already has an armed resource officer on the premises. I didn't know that! So I asked my son what he thought about Officer X. After we got passed the why is my mom asking me these questions part of the conversation he said he likes him, he is nice, he teaches us about bullies and keeps me safe from the bad guys. I asked him if anything about Officer X seems scary, sometimes children are afraid of Firemen or Police Officers because of their uniforms (tried not to lead him too much about the gun the officer carries). He said Nope. I'm not used to seeing an armed person walking around but my son is. It's no big deal to him. Yeah, it's kind of funny how many people don't know their children's school has a regular police officer (school resource officer). However, many schools still don't. It may or may not be part of a solution, but the kids are NOT afraid of the Officers. Edited by Left Brain 2012-12-22 8:36 PM |
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![]() trigal38 - 2012-12-22 9:13 PM I asked him if anything about Officer X seems scary, sometimes children are afraid of Firemen or Police Officers because of their uniforms (tried not to lead him too much about the gun the officer carries). He said Nope. Your kiddo has more sense than a lot of adults I know. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Grampa's a cop, so my son has no problem seeing a cop in the lobby of his school every day. They're just one of the "people in the neighborhood", like the Sesame Street song used to say. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() DanielG - 2012-12-22 5:38 PM Nope but mine carry at school. Both go where that's legal and both looked into schools with that as one of the checklist of optional positive things they were looking for. Wow. This out of control gun culture is one of the main reasons why I left the US after high-school and probably won't return till after my kids are grown. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() My son's a high school senior. They've had a local police officer in the school for years. He says everyone knows him by name, and he's a nice guy. Nothing scary about him at all. I suppose one of the positive aspects of police in schools could be more kids who grow up viewing the police as friendly protectors rather than scary disciplinarians. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TriMyBest - 2012-12-23 8:55 AMMy son's a high school senior. They've had a local police officer in the school for years. He says everyone knows him by name, and he's a nice guy. Nothing scary about him at all. I suppose one of the positive aspects of police in schools could be more kids who grow up viewing the police as friendly protectors rather than scary disciplinarians. I was trying to make the same point. Having someone from the local police force assigned to the school on a permanent basis would go a long way towards having a positive attitude towards law enforcement, and I want them to be qualified police officers, not a separate force. I'd actually see this as an elite position, with these officers having additional training in mediation and dealing with adolescents. Maybe if they were trusted by the students, they would be alerted before anything actually occurred. So many times we hear after the fact that there were warning bells going off but nobody heard them. I would also like to see firearm safety part of the curriculum, no different than teaching them about HIV. Both can kill but education severely cuts down the risks. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() My oldest daughter is now a teacher, and grew up in small town Iowa and she grew up with a police officer in her middle school and high school that carried. Was not a problem for her or her younger sister who is now in college and she saw the same thing. We are rural community and we have officers in our small schools. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() There are Police Officer's in schools all over America.....maybe some have prevented incidents like Sandyhook by their very presence.....who knows? What we do know is that it has not made any school less safe, and the kids aren't afraid of the Officer....and less afraid of the Police in general from what I hear from my kid's friends. |
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![]() | ![]() BrianRunsPhilly - 2012-12-23 10:12 AM I would also like to see firearm safety part of the curriculum, no different than teaching them about HIV. Both can kill but education severely cuts down the risks. Good point. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() GomesBolt - 2012-12-23 12:45 PM BrianRunsPhilly - 2012-12-23 10:12 AM I would also like to see firearm safety part of the curriculum, no different than teaching them about HIV. Both can kill but education severely cuts down the risks. Good point. I missed that part of Brian's post....that is an excellent idea!! |
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![]() BrianRunsPhilly - 2012-12-23 11:12 AM I would also like to see firearm safety part of the curriculum, no different than teaching them about HIV. Both can kill but education severely cuts down the risks. I've been saying that should be one of the mandatory items for graduation from HS in the US for years now. You're right, it would save lives. I'd vote for that in a heartbeat. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() DanielG - 2012-12-23 1:14 PM BrianRunsPhilly - 2012-12-23 11:12 AM I would also like to see firearm safety part of the curriculum, no different than teaching them about HIV. Both can kill but education severely cuts down the risks. I've been saying that should be one of the mandatory items for graduation from HS in the US for years now. You're right, it would save lives. I'd vote for that in a heartbeat. I don't know about mandatory, but it should at least be available. I think most people grow up either immersed in gun culture (family are gun owners, they grow up hunting, target shooting, etc) or they never see a gun close up unless they actively seek it out somehow. It's no wonder the debate is so polarized. You have half the people for whom guns are an ordinary part of everyday life and the other half for whom they're totally foreign. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() jmk-brooklyn - 2012-12-23 7:31 PM DanielG - 2012-12-23 1:14 PM I don't know about mandatory, but it should at least be available. I think most people grow up either immersed in gun culture (family are gun owners, they grow up hunting, target shooting, etc) or they never see a gun close up unless they actively seek it out somehow. It's no wonder the debate is so polarized. You have half the people for whom guns are an ordinary part of everyday life and the other half for whom they're totally foreign.BrianRunsPhilly - 2012-12-23 11:12 AM I would also like to see firearm safety part of the curriculum, no different than teaching them about HIV. Both can kill but education severely cuts down the risks. I've been saying that should be one of the mandatory items for graduation from HS in the US for years now. You're right, it would save lives. I'd vote for that in a heartbeat. That's it! |
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![]() Left Brain - 2012-12-23 8:23 PM jmk-brooklyn - 2012-12-23 7:31 PM DanielG - 2012-12-23 1:14 PM I don't know about mandatory, but it should at least be available. I think most people grow up either immersed in gun culture (family are gun owners, they grow up hunting, target shooting, etc) or they never see a gun close up unless they actively seek it out somehow. It's no wonder the debate is so polarized. You have half the people for whom guns are an ordinary part of everyday life and the other half for whom they're totally foreign.BrianRunsPhilly - 2012-12-23 11:12 AM I would also like to see firearm safety part of the curriculum, no different than teaching them about HIV. Both can kill but education severely cuts down the risks. I've been saying that should be one of the mandatory items for graduation from HS in the US for years now. You're right, it would save lives. I'd vote for that in a heartbeat. That's it! Maybe so. I'm in the never been around guns group and I don't really feel strongly one way or the other on the issue. Although I'm not real comfortable with my husband sitting in his office at school like a sitting duck either. I live in a rural area where most people hunt so the IDEA of a gun is not scary to me. I just don't have experience being around them. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() DanielG - 2012-12-23 2:14 PM Just to clarify why I feel this way, it has nothing to do with 2nd amendment rights. It is entirely about safety. Even if I never own a gun, I want my kids to know gun safety in case they find one, see one at their friends house, or any other situation where I'm not there. If ~50% of households have guns in them, it's only logical. BrianRunsPhilly - 2012-12-23 11:12 AM I would also like to see firearm safety part of the curriculum, no different than teaching them about HIV. Both can kill but education severely cuts down the risks. I've been saying that should be one of the mandatory items for graduation from HS in the US for years now. You're right, it would save lives. I'd vote for that in a heartbeat. |
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![]() BrianRunsPhilly - 2012-12-23 10:39 PM Just to clarify why I feel this way, it has nothing to do with 2nd amendment rights. It is entirely about safety. Even if I never own a gun, I want my kids to know gun safety in case they find one, see one at their friends house, or any other situation where I'm not there. If ~50% of households have guns in them, it's only logical. I agree with you completely here. Nothing to do with rights or politics, it's kiddo safety. A lot of people want nothing to do with firearms to the point they never teach safety to their kids, "After all, there'll never be a gun in my house" Yeah, but your kid WILL be at least in the same room as one at some point(s) while growing up. As I said, I would vote for that in a heartbeat! |
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![]() DanielG - 2012-12-24 4:01 AM BrianRunsPhilly - 2012-12-23 10:39 PM Just to clarify why I feel this way, it has nothing to do with 2nd amendment rights. It is entirely about safety. Even if I never own a gun, I want my kids to know gun safety in case they find one, see one at their friends house, or any other situation where I'm not there. If ~50% of households have guns in them, it's only logical. I agree with you completely here. Nothing to do with rights or politics, it's kiddo safety. A lot of people want nothing to do with firearms to the point they never teach safety to their kids, "After all, there'll never be a gun in my house" Yeah, but your kid WILL be at least in the same room as one at some point(s) while growing up. As I said, I would vote for that in a heartbeat! Well we are all in agreement on this. My son had a conversation with me the other day about seeing Uncle Ted's guns. I got a little defensive telling him he should never be touching other peoples guns, don't look at the guns when grown ups are not around etc. And what do you know, he quit talking to me and said I didn't understand. Yes, I get a gold star for my handling of that little talk..... |
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