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 2007-10-14 9:21 AM |
Elite  3221    the desert |  Subject: I guess the Pac-10 is better than the SEC afterallThe BCS rankings come out today. I guessing the PAC-10 will have 4 teams (USC, Cal, Oregon, and ARIZONA STATE) in the top 10. SEC? 2 |
 2007-10-14 9:33 AM in reply to: #1007268 |
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| 2007-10-14 10:37 AM in reply to: #1007268 |
| Regular 114 Louisville, KY | Subject: RE: I guess the Pac-10 is better than the SEC afterall It is simply impossible to go by the ranking to decide which conference is better since it depends on when a team lost to see how high they are ranked. I say if you look at how many teams are in a bowl game makes a better comparison. Right now the PAC-10 has a projected 6, maybe 7 teams. The SEC has 10. TEN! Don't get me wrong the PAC-10 is a good conference, better than some people give it credit for, but the SEC is the premier conference. Look at it this way there haven't been any huge upsets in the SEC of the top teams. Yes LSU lost to my Wildcats, but that is a huge difference from losing to Stanford or Oregon St. |
| 2007-10-14 11:31 AM in reply to: #1007268 |
Champion 5529   Nashville, TN | Subject: RE: I guess the Pac-10 is better than the SEC afterall Slow down there cowboy. I do expect to see the standings confirm that today. But you have to be a bit more realistic. The reason Pac-10 teams are doing so well right now is because they are feeding off the bottom of the conference. Want the worst the SEC has to offer, I give you Ole Miss, Vandy...and Arkansas. How confident would you feel about playing any of those? The Pac-10 faithful always get excited this time a year. Well enjoy it because you good teams are about to play one another and no longer be in the top 10...a la the SEC each year. Arizona State's next four games are Cal, Ore, UCLA & USC. They will lose at least 2 Plus going into the weekend the Big East had 3 teams in the top 15 and another one undefeated and unranked. I don't think many would make a case that the Big East is an elite football conference.
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| 2007-10-14 11:33 AM in reply to: #1007268 |
| Champion 8936 | Subject: RE: I guess the Pac-10 is better than the SEC afterall Way to take a snapshot in time and use it to serve your point. Where were you last week? |
| 2007-10-14 12:29 PM in reply to: #1007268 |
| Elite 3221 the desert | Subject: RE: I guess the Pac-10 is better than the SEC afterall I've always been there for ASU. Although it moves them into first place, I'm disappointed that Cal and USC have losses. And before you say that ASU hasn't played anyone yet, look at this.. They beat Colorado, who then beat Oklahoma They beat Stanford, who then beat #1 USC They beat Oregon State, who then beat #2 Cal They are 7-0 and you can't take that away. The real test will be this next 4 game stretch. Very happy to have the bye this week before Cal though. They
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| 2007-10-14 12:41 PM in reply to: #1007414 |
| Champion 8936 | Subject: RE: I guess the Pac-10 is better than the SEC afterall They beat a team who beat a team........ You can come up with all kinds of stuff with that kinda logic. They beat 3 average to bad teams who played well and beat other teams. triguyfitz - 2007-10-14 12:29 PM I've always been there for ASU. Although it moves them into first place, I'm disappointed that Cal and USC have losses. And before you say that ASU hasn't played anyone yet, look at this.. They beat Colorado, who then beat Oklahoma They beat Stanford, who then beat #1 USC They beat Oregon State, who then beat #2 Cal They are 7-0 and you can't take that away. The real test will be this next 4 game stretch. Very happy to have the bye this week before Cal though. They
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| 2007-10-14 12:51 PM in reply to: #1007268 |
| Elite 3221 the desert | Subject: RE: I guess the Pac-10 is better than the SEC afterall They beat the teams they were supposed to beat (unlike those others - - USC should NEVER lose to Stanford in football). There's still a lot of football to be played. Just having a little fun because my team is 7-0. I like what Erickson said about the Devils, "I don't know how good we are, but it's nice to be 7-0" (I'm paraphrasing). |
| 2007-10-14 1:06 PM in reply to: #1007425 |
| Champion 8936 | Subject: RE: I guess the Pac-10 is better than the SEC afterall I'm just being bitter. Don't mind me. triguyfitz - 2007-10-14 12:51 PM They beat the teams they were supposed to beat (unlike those others - - USC should NEVER lose to Stanford in football). There's still a lot of football to be played. Just having a little fun because my team is 7-0. I like what Erickson said about the Devils, "I don't know how good we are, but it's nice to be 7-0" (I'm paraphrasing). |
| 2007-10-14 1:39 PM in reply to: #1007268 |
| Elite 3221 the desert | Subject: RE: I guess the Pac-10 is better than the SEC afterall Last thing I'll say about this ...(probably not) I'm a homer for ASU, but who is the person that gave them a #1 vote in the AP Poll? C'mon -- even I don't think they deserve that.
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| 2007-10-14 3:17 PM in reply to: #1007421 |
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| 2007-10-14 3:56 PM in reply to: #1007471 |
| Elite 2421 | Subject: RE: I guess the Pac-10 is better than the SEC afterall triguyfitz - 2007-10-14 12:39 PM Last thing I'll say about this ...(probably not) I'm a homer for ASU, but who is the person that gave them a #1 vote in the AP Poll? C'mon -- even I don't think they deserve that.
Heck, I'd give A State a number 1 vote before I'd give it to LSU immediately following a loss to an unranked opponent. bts |
| 2007-10-14 4:06 PM in reply to: #1007568 |
Resident Curmudgeon 25290 The Road Back Gold member | Subject: RE: I guess the Pac-10 is better than the SEC afterall Brett - 2007-10-14 3:56 PM Heck, I'd give A State a number 1 vote before I'd give it to LSU immediately following a loss to an unranked opponent. bts Good thing someone as uninformed as you doesn't get a vote. Kentucky was 17th when they beat LSU. |
| 2007-10-14 4:33 PM in reply to: #1007268 |
| Champion 5529 Nashville, TN | Subject: RE: I guess the Pac-10 is better than the SEC afterall triguyfitz - 2007-10-14 10:21 AM The BCS rankings come out today. I guessing the PAC-10 will have 4 teams (USC, Cal, Oregon, and ARIZONA STATE) in the top 10. SEC? 2 To go back to your original post, if we use the AP Poll (BCS may differ) then my math has SEC 3 Case closed Can we all agree that the Big 10 reeeeally sux!!!! Edited by ADollar79 2007-10-14 4:35 PM |
| 2007-10-14 5:03 PM in reply to: #1007268 |
| Champion 5529 Nashville, TN | Subject: RE: I guess the Pac-10 is better than the SEC afterall There they are....
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| 2007-10-14 5:28 PM in reply to: #1007268 |
| Elite 3221 the desert | Subject: RE: I guess the Pac-10 is better than the SEC afterall I'm suprised USC is ranked so low (if you call that low). My bad....but the season's not over. One other thing - - please do not call ASU by the moniker 'A State' . Arizona State or ASU will be fine. It grates on my nerves everytime the guy on Fox Sports says it. |
| 2007-10-14 5:28 PM in reply to: #1007620 |
| Got Wahoo? 5423 San Antonio | Subject: RE: I guess the Pac-10 is better than the SEC afterall ADollar79 - 2007-10-14 4:03 PM There they are....
I'd say the Pac 10 is about middle of the... pack. Average at best in my opinion. SEC: 7 (4th is highest ranking) Big 12: 5 (5th is highest ranking) Pac: 10: 4 (8th is highest ranking) Acc: 4 (3rd is highest ranking) Big 10: 2 (1st is highest)
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| 2007-10-14 5:32 PM in reply to: #1007268 |
| Expert 1207 Parker, Co | Subject: RE: I guess the Pac-10 is better than the SEC afterall It was interesting to hear the opinions of the "experts" - Holtz had OSU at #1, May had USF...Herbstreit and Curso had OSU ....they rationalize it by saying they are unbeaten....same could be said for BC and USF....If you look at schedules USF should be #1 - since they have actually played ranked opponents and beaten them. The old school establishment favor the named conferences - its a shame since the Big 10 is ( and has been for a few years) horrible overall. Teams like USF should get credit for playing and beating people ahead of the bigger conference teams Hopefully time will show the weaknesses of the respective schedules and teams - and we'll get a great match up in the NC. Sidenote - it would be hard to be in the SEC...thats one tough conference top to bottom! |
| 2007-10-14 5:33 PM in reply to: #1007641 |
| Champion 5529 Nashville, TN | Subject: RE: I guess the Pac-10 is better than the SEC afterall tmwelshy - 2007-10-14 6:28 PM
I'd say the Pac 10 is about middle of the... pack. Average at best in my opinion. SEC: 7 (4th is highest ranking) Big 12: 5 (5th is highest ranking) Pac: 10: 4 (8th is highest ranking) Acc: 4 (3rd is highest ranking) Big 10: 2 (1st is highest)
Just for more foder....I would actually put the Pac above the Big 12 based on the rankings of those teams in the poll. For example, I wouldn't argue that a conference that has 5 teams all 20-25 is stronger than a conference with 3 in the top 10.
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| 2007-10-14 6:48 PM in reply to: #1007645 |
| Elite 3221 the desert | Subject: RE: I guess the Pac-10 is better than the SEC afterall Bcozican - 2007-10-14 3:32 PM It was interesting to hear the opinions of the "experts" - Holtz had OSU at #1, May had USF...Herbstreit and Curso had OSU ....they rationalize it by saying they are unbeaten....same could be said for BC and USF....If you look at schedules USF should be #1 - since they have actually played ranked opponents and beaten them. The old school establishment favor the named conferences - its a shame since the Big 10 is ( and has been for a few years) horrible overall. Teams like USF should get credit for playing and beating people ahead of the bigger conference teams Hopefully time will show the weaknesses of the respective schedules and teams - and we'll get a great match up in the NC. Sidenote - it would be hard to be in the SEC...thats one tough conference top to bottom! Plus, you have to deduct any credit you'd give the Big 10 because they have 11 schools in the conference. (Why is it still the Big 10? Granted, it does sound better than Big 11) |
| 2007-10-14 7:15 PM in reply to: #1007646 |
| Got Wahoo? 5423 San Antonio | Subject: RE: I guess the Pac-10 is better than the SEC afterall ADollar79 - 2007-10-14 4:33 PM tmwelshy - 2007-10-14 6:28 PM
I'd say the Pac 10 is about middle of the... pack. Average at best in my opinion. SEC: 7 (4th is highest ranking) Big 12: 5 (5th is highest ranking) Pac: 10: 4 (8th is highest ranking) Acc: 4 (3rd is highest ranking) Big 10: 2 (1st is highest)
Just for more foder....I would actually put the Pac above the Big 12 based on the rankings of those teams in the poll. For example, I wouldn't argue that a conference that has 5 teams all 20-25 is stronger than a conference with 3 in the top 10.
I agree....
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| 2007-10-15 1:16 AM in reply to: #1007268 |
| Expert 1112 I'm a Tennessee girl living in SoCal. | Subject: RE: I guess the Pac-10 is better than the SEC afterall |
| 2007-10-15 3:27 AM in reply to: #1007268 |
| Champion 7036 Sarasota, FL | Subject: RE: I guess the Pac-10 is better than the SEC afterall Purdue's season is already a success by beating ND. I just wish someone would tell my Boilermakers that the football season lasts beyond September... Mark |
| 2007-10-15 10:49 AM in reply to: #1008021 |
| Elite 3130 | Subject: RE: I guess the Pac-10 is better than the SEC afterall RedCorvette - 2007-10-15 2:27 AM Purdue's season is already a success by beating ND. I just wish someone would tell my Boilermakers that the football season lasts beyond September... Mark Amen Bro -> Just tell Morgan Burke to keep scheduling MAC teams all the way into November. Hell let's just join the MAC and get it over with... Well at least this BCS list confirms one thing -> The Big Ten is definitely having a down year.
Having said all of that, the schadenfreude of Notre Dame's implosion is almost too much pleasure for me to handle.
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| 2007-10-15 10:52 AM in reply to: #1008402 |
Expert 864 Village of Lakewood, Illinois Silver member | Subject: RE: I guess the Pac-10 is better than the SEC afterall ScottoNM - 2007-10-15 10:49 AM RedCorvette - 2007-10-15 2:27 AM Purdue's season is already a success by beating ND. I just wish someone would tell my Boilermakers that the football season lasts beyond September... Mark Amen Bro -> Just tell Morgan Burke to keep scheduling MAC teams all the way into November. Hell let's just join the MAC and get it over with... Well at least this BCS list confirms one thing -> The Big Ten is definitely having a down year.
Having said all of that, the schadenfreude of Notre Dame's implosion is almost too much pleasure for me to handle.
Excellent....I had to go look that up. |
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