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2012-03-21 12:07 PM

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I did NOT see that coming. I just figured the NFL would do what it always does and just forget about it.

Saints’ Payton Suspended One Year for Role in Bounty Program



2012-03-21 12:10 PM
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Agreed - very surprising. I guess they wanted to send a BIG message.
2012-03-21 12:10 PM
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...and Tebow to the Jets, which I also did not see coming. Should be a circus up there...
2012-03-21 12:12 PM
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Link:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7718136/sean-payton-new-orleans-s...

He'll get it reduced with good behavior. Goddell almost always cuts them back. But still, even 1/2 of that is tough.
2012-03-21 12:13 PM
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A YEAR... wow. I bet everyone else is shaking in their boots.
2012-03-21 12:13 PM
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Very shocked.  I figured at worst - 8 games for Payton, and one year for Robinson.  


2012-03-21 12:15 PM
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Williams, not Robinson.  Always getting those two mixed up.
2012-03-21 12:19 PM
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Just...wow. On both counts.

Saints: pretty harsh sentence, but should discourage like behavior from other clubs. The two second round picks is as big as a deal as the suspensions, IMHO. That puts them at salary cap disadvantage because they'll need to fill those slots with free agents at open market prices, rather than with (relatively) inexpensive rookie-scale folks.

Jets: Now you've got three second string quarterbacks, two of which have cinder-block sized shoulder chips, congrats. The media can breathe easy, too; they'll be something other than A-Rod to write about...but truthfully, I'm pretty thankful that some Tebow coverage may displace the NIT and NCAA Women's from ESPN. Silver lining...

2012-03-21 12:48 PM
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Surprised to see the punishement hit so harsh and so high up in the organization.

"The NFL said payoffs went to 22 to 27 defensive players for inflicting game-ending injuries on targeted opponents, including quarterbacks Brett Favre and Kurt Warner. "Knockouts" were worth $1,500 and "cart-offs" $1,000, with payments doubled or tripled for the playoffs."

For such relatively paltry payouts. I can't imagine they were really that big of a motivating factor to begin with. Poor decision making all around.

 

2012-03-21 12:51 PM
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Guess we've gone from Peyton Manning to Payton Banning.

As I said in another thread, the NFL is never boring, even in the off-season.

2012-03-21 1:01 PM
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IMHO the bigger deal is Williams is suspended indefinitely.  Could easily end his career as a coach.

The Saints aren't going to have a home super bowl this year.

Sean Payton's suspension is also going to cost him $8 million, his salary this year.



2012-03-21 1:22 PM
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This is crazy to me. I am shocked they suspended payton for a full year. This should get pretty interesting as I am sure more information will be coming out about this soon...
2012-03-21 1:28 PM
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I think it's great. There's no room for this kind of stupidity in sports. Since they did this as a team, I hope it really hurts the team. I hope they don't make the playoffs.
2012-03-21 1:33 PM
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Bravo Commissioner.  I like the move.  The Saints knew a bounty was against the rules, they were warned against it, the coach and gm continued to promote it and then acted all arrogant and tried to hide evidence of it.  I think the punishment is fitting.  There is no room for that in the NFL. 
2012-03-21 1:34 PM
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On a more positive note...

I wonder what the possibility of Sean Peyton spending his extra time "assisting" the LSU offensive coaching line would be?

lol...

Seriously... this is way overboard!!  Wish there was more I could do to boycott the NFL, but unfortunately w/ my husband being from NY I'm forced to watch Giants games     (not that that would be enough anyhow).

But it's okay... remember when people wore paperbags to the games???  Yeah, we'll rise again, just need a little more voodoo and a few more pin dolls.

2012-03-21 1:36 PM
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zed707 - 2012-03-21 1:28 PM I think it's great. There's no room for this kind of stupidity in sports. Since they did this as a team, I hope it really hurts the team. I hope they don't make the playoffs.

 

Agreed.   I know it's football and it's a tough sport but what the Saints did was over the line. 



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I'm surprised the Saints weren't also docked draft picks.

If it was a team-sponsored illegal activity, why isn't the TEAM penalized as well?

2012-03-21 1:43 PM
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scoobysdad - 2012-03-21 12:38 PM I'm surprised the Saints weren't also docked draft picks. If it was a team-sponsored illegal activity, why isn't the TEAM penalized as well?

Two draft picks, and the loss of head coach. That is a team punishment.

And I said this always goes on.. there have always been incentives for plays... or some players wanted to knock another player out of the game... but ya... this was over the line. the organization, the team managment, bounties of players, people, not game or position... it was over the line. Not cool at all.

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scoobysdad - 2012-03-21 2:38 PM I'm surprised the Saints weren't also docked draft picks. If it was a team-sponsored illegal activity, why isn't the TEAM penalized as well?

They were docked draft picks, 2 2nd rounders ('12, '13). A 500K fine (which may go against the salary cap). Plus a coach out for a year. Pretty significant. 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7718136/sean-payton-new-orleans-saints-banned-one-year-bounties

I also understood from the initial story that outside people (e.g., sponsors, local businessmen, etc) contributed to the bounty fund. That, IMHO, is another level of seriousness. Basically, if you have money outside the game, you can pay it and have influence on the outcome of the game. Wonder whatever happened to that angle...

2012-03-21 1:53 PM
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scoobysdad - 2012-03-21 12:38 PM I'm surprised the Saints weren't also docked draft picks. If it was a team-sponsored illegal activity, why isn't the TEAM penalized as well?

Two draft picks, and the loss of head coach. That is a team punishment.

And I said this always goes on.. there have always been incentives for plays... or some players wanted to knock another player out of the game... but ya... this was over the line. the organization, the team managment, bounties of players, people, not game or position... it was over the line. Not cool at all.




Didn't see that, thanks. It wasn't even mentioned in the story I read.

That is harsh, but I think appropriate.



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2012-03-21 2:14 PM
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scoobysdad - 2012-03-21 12:38 PM I'm surprised the Saints weren't also docked draft picks. If it was a team-sponsored illegal activity, why isn't the TEAM penalized as well?

Two draft picks, and the loss of head coach. That is a team punishment.

And I said this always goes on.. there have always been incentives for plays... or some players wanted to knock another player out of the game... but ya... this was over the line. the organization, the team managment, bounties of players, people, not game or position... it was over the line. Not cool at all.

Didn't see that, thanks. It wasn't even mentioned in the story I read. That is harsh, but I think appropriate.

Ya, I have to agree. Usually the players themselves handle this. It is their livelihood. They want to keep playing and keep making money. But when you have one team going "rogue" rolling dirty... ya, you have to lower the boom.



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Now that this is all out in the light, I find Payton's sideline injury somewhat ironic. Here he is offering bounties to injure players, and he suffers one of the worst sideline injuries I've ever seen. And now the poop's hit the fan. That's some bad voodoo right there.
2012-03-21 2:57 PM
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From what I heard about the offenses, while all the bounty stuff is bad and all, possibly the scariest aspect of the scandal is...$$$.  I heard the money came from an outside source.  Just imagine the pandora's box that opens up!  Outside money = outside influence.  Outside influence equals HUGE threat to the integrity of the game.  Those involved in this nonsense are lucky they're only being suspended...banned for life had to be considered.
2012-03-21 3:13 PM
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ChineseDemocracy - 2012-03-21 1:57 PM From what I heard about the offenses, while all the bounty stuff is bad and all, possibly the scariest aspect of the scandal is...$$$.  I heard the money came from an outside source.  Just imagine the pandora's box that opens up!  Outside money = outside influence.  Outside influence equals HUGE threat to the integrity of the game.  Those involved in this nonsense are lucky they're only being suspended...banned for life had to be considered.

I think that would only matter if it was big money... I mean really... throwing games or plays to alter outcomes and bets has always been available. The amounts of the bountys were miniscule to a player. $1000 to a guy making several million a year? I always took the amounts like a "gentleman's bet". The prize was nothing, it was the play that mattered.... and yes that would open a huge can of worms.. but a player is going to risk millions on some "guy" chipping in $1000 for a hit?

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geauxtri - 2012-03-21 1:34 PM

On a more positive note...

I wonder what the possibility of Sean Peyton spending his extra time "assisting" the LSU offensive coaching line would be?

lol...

Seriously... this is way overboard!!  Wish there was more I could do to boycott the NFL, but unfortunately w/ my husband being from NY I'm forced to watch Giants games     (not that that would be enough anyhow).

But it's okay... remember when people wore paperbags to the games???  Yeah, we'll rise again, just need a little more voodoo and a few more pin dolls.

 So...are you saying you condone this type of asanine behavior?  They're got off easy in my opinion!



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