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2012-09-12 9:15 AM

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2012-09-12 9:20 AM
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Wow... just wow.
2012-09-12 9:25 AM
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Fighting racism with reverse discrimination... Yeah, that'll work.

The only time racism will end is when race is never even a consideration.

2012-09-12 9:39 AM
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The two most racially offensive images in sports:

2012-09-12 9:43 AM
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pga_mike - 2012-09-12 10:39 AM

The two most racially offensive images in sports:

Because the leprechauns aren't drinking a whiskey?

 

2012-09-12 9:45 AM
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Goosedog - 2012-09-12 10:43 AM
pga_mike - 2012-09-12 10:39 AM

The two most racially offensive images in sports:

Because the leprechauns aren't drinking a whiskey?

 

Or maybe because they don't have red hair.



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2012-09-12 9:48 AM
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Well, I think if you are going to start to complain about common foods, you're going to have a bad time. After all, what about the kids from Nepal, where 3 meals a day are dal bhat? How are they supposed to relate to tortas or pita?

Coca Cola is available in every continent and in pretty much every country. But I suppose the principal would complain that asking for a "coke or something like that" would be capitalist imperialism. 

I think part of the job of an educator is to help kids to succeed in this country. And that may mean teaching them about what are common things - PB&J for example. Frankly, I would also say that pizza and tacos are common foods that kids eat. Hummus and pita? Less so, at least now. But saying it exists or is common is not the same as saying someone else's foods are "wrong" in some fashion.

2012-09-12 9:51 AM
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Portland gonna Portland. There's a parody TV show about that city for good reason.
2012-09-12 9:51 AM
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pga_mike - 2012-09-12 10:39 AM

The two most racially offensive images in sports:

 

I'll see yours and raise you Chief Wahoo

2012-09-12 9:55 AM
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The obligatory...

 

(this principal needs to retire)

2012-09-12 10:10 AM
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pga_mike - 2012-09-12 10:39 AM

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No sarc font? I am of Irish descent and find nothing offense about those at all. Besides, everyone's a little bit racist...

 



2012-09-12 10:21 AM
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mrbbrad - 2012-09-12 11:10 AM
pga_mike - 2012-09-12 10:39 AM

The two most racially offensive images in sports:

No sarc font? I am of Irish descent and find nothing offense about those at all. Besides, everyone's a little bit racist...

 

The jews have all the money and the whites have all the power!

2012-09-12 10:35 AM
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Personally I believe that if they're here in our country they should assimilate to our culture. When I lived in England I didn't insist that the British provide me an American-style breakfast (which they already do at some places, but that's beside the point) and when we went to France we ate the style of food they served there. People accuse Americans of being pompous when we're in foreign countries and demanding American-style amenities and food -- what about people who immigrate to our country?

That said, the school is 50 percent Hispanic and 15 percent black and 9 percent Asian. So, 74 percent aren't white. So why not do something like have a dish from a different country each day ? Why not mix it up instead of having PB&J every day? That'd truly be a way to make what the kids eat more diverse!
2012-09-12 10:37 AM
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mrbbrad - 2012-09-12 11:10 AM
pga_mike - 2012-09-12 10:39 AM

The two most racially offensive images in sports:

No sarc font? I am of Irish descent and find nothing offense about those at all. Besides, everyone's a little bit racist...

 

 

I thought he was referring to how Notre Dame is just flat out offensive ... not in any football kind of way. (Sorry, no sarcasm font for me on this one

2012-09-12 10:37 AM
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mr2tony - 2012-09-12 11:35 AM Personally I believe that if they're here in our country they should assimilate to our culture. When I lived in England I didn't insist that the British provide me an American-style breakfast (which they already do at some places, but that's beside the point) and when we went to France we ate the style of food they served there. People accuse Americans of being pompous when we're in foreign countries and demanding American-style amenities and food -- what about people who immigrate to our country? That said, the school is 50 percent Hispanic and 15 percent black and 9 percent Asian. So, 74 percent aren't white. So why not do something like have a dish from a different country each day ? Why not mix it up instead of having PB&J every day? That'd truly be a way to make what the kids eat more diverse!

Because PB&J is pretty universally an American food not a white people food.  I grew up where whites were the minority by a good amount and everybody knew what a PB&J was and frequently had them for lunch, regardless of ethnicity.

2012-09-12 10:38 AM
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mr2tony - 2012-09-12 11:35 AM . . . and when we went to France we ate the style of food they served there. 

Royale with Cheese.

 



2012-09-12 10:49 AM
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Isn't George Washington Carver often credited with bringing peanut butter to this country?  Hard to call it a racist food.

I think the Washington Redskins name is more racist than any other team. 

2012-09-12 10:54 AM
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I wonder what sort of socio/economic statement you make if your pb & j is served on Wonder Bread... Probably off the scale if it's also served with a Shasta or RC cola.

 

2012-09-12 10:55 AM
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mr2tony - 2012-09-12 11:35 AM Personally I believe that if they're here in our country they should assimilate to our culture. When I lived in England I didn't insist that the British provide me an American-style breakfast (which they already do at some places, but that's beside the point) and when we went to France we ate the style of food they served there. People accuse Americans of being pompous when we're in foreign countries and demanding American-style amenities and food -- what about people who immigrate to our country? That said, the school is 50 percent Hispanic and 15 percent black and 9 percent Asian. So, 74 percent aren't white. So why not do something like have a dish from a different country each day ? Why not mix it up instead of having PB&J every day? That'd truly be a way to make what the kids eat more diverse!

Because PB&J is pretty universally an American food not a white people food.  I grew up where whites were the minority by a good amount and everybody knew what a PB&J was and frequently had them for lunch, regardless of ethnicity.



So because that's how it was where you grew up, that's how it should be everywhere?

That's kind of the point these yahoos are trying to make -- just because that's how it was where you're from doesn't mean that's how it should be. I'm not defending them because I think they're wrong but when people say stuff like what you just said, it gives them a reason to have to advocate for minorities against ``white privilege.''
2012-09-12 11:33 AM
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mr2tony - 2012-09-12 11:55 AM
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mr2tony - 2012-09-12 11:35 AM Personally I believe that if they're here in our country they should assimilate to our culture. When I lived in England I didn't insist that the British provide me an American-style breakfast (which they already do at some places, but that's beside the point) and when we went to France we ate the style of food they served there. People accuse Americans of being pompous when we're in foreign countries and demanding American-style amenities and food -- what about people who immigrate to our country? That said, the school is 50 percent Hispanic and 15 percent black and 9 percent Asian. So, 74 percent aren't white. So why not do something like have a dish from a different country each day ? Why not mix it up instead of having PB&J every day? That'd truly be a way to make what the kids eat more diverse!

Because PB&J is pretty universally an American food not a white people food.  I grew up where whites were the minority by a good amount and everybody knew what a PB&J was and frequently had them for lunch, regardless of ethnicity.

So because that's how it was where you grew up, that's how it should be everywhere? That's kind of the point these yahoos are trying to make -- just because that's how it was where you're from doesn't mean that's how it should be. I'm not defending them because I think they're wrong but when people say stuff like what you just said, it gives them a reason to have to advocate for minorities against ``white privilege.''

It has nothing to do with White privilege.  My point was that PB&J is pretty universal across America.  You do not have to explain to the Jewish kid from  NJ what mole sauce is and you do not have to explain to the Hispanic kid from the NM what Matzo balls are and you don't have to teach those poor Texas kids what real chile is about.  You can actually teach the lesson instead.  If it is important to use close to universal ideas so as not to leave out any one group seems to me PB&J is pretty close to it in the US.

 

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trinnas - 2012-09-12 11:33 AM

mr2tony - 2012-09-12 11:55 AM
trinnas - 2012-09-12 10:37 AM

mr2tony - 2012-09-12 11:35 AM Personally I believe that if they're here in our country they should assimilate to our culture. When I lived in England I didn't insist that the British provide me an American-style breakfast (which they already do at some places, but that's beside the point) and when we went to France we ate the style of food they served there. People accuse Americans of being pompous when we're in foreign countries and demanding American-style amenities and food -- what about people who immigrate to our country? That said, the school is 50 percent Hispanic and 15 percent black and 9 percent Asian. So, 74 percent aren't white. So why not do something like have a dish from a different country each day ? Why not mix it up instead of having PB&J every day? That'd truly be a way to make what the kids eat more diverse!

Because PB&J is pretty universally an American food not a white people food.  I grew up where whites were the minority by a good amount and everybody knew what a PB&J was and frequently had them for lunch, regardless of ethnicity.

So because that's how it was where you grew up, that's how it should be everywhere? That's kind of the point these yahoos are trying to make -- just because that's how it was where you're from doesn't mean that's how it should be. I'm not defending them because I think they're wrong but when people say stuff like what you just said, it gives them a reason to have to advocate for minorities against ``white privilege.''

It has nothing to do with White privilege.  My point was that PB&J is pretty universal across America.  You do not have to explain to the Jewish kid from  NJ what mole sauce is and you do not have to explain to the Hispanic kid from the NM what Matzo balls are and you don't have to teach those poor Texas kids what real chile is about.  You can actually teach the lesson instead.  If it is important to use close to universal ideas so as not to leave out any one group seems to me PB&J is pretty close to it in the US.

 



What's wrong with a Jewish kid from NJ knowing what mole sauce is or a Texas kid knowing what REAL chile tastes like or an Hispanic kid from NM knowing what matzo balls are?

I would think knowledge, and educators educating and teaching diversity, would be a good thing, no?


2012-09-12 11:58 AM
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mr2tony - 2012-09-12 12:44 PM
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mr2tony - 2012-09-12 11:55 AM
trinnas - 2012-09-12 10:37 AM

mr2tony - 2012-09-12 11:35 AM Personally I believe that if they're here in our country they should assimilate to our culture. When I lived in England I didn't insist that the British provide me an American-style breakfast (which they already do at some places, but that's beside the point) and when we went to France we ate the style of food they served there. People accuse Americans of being pompous when we're in foreign countries and demanding American-style amenities and food -- what about people who immigrate to our country? That said, the school is 50 percent Hispanic and 15 percent black and 9 percent Asian. So, 74 percent aren't white. So why not do something like have a dish from a different country each day ? Why not mix it up instead of having PB&J every day? That'd truly be a way to make what the kids eat more diverse!

Because PB&J is pretty universally an American food not a white people food.  I grew up where whites were the minority by a good amount and everybody knew what a PB&J was and frequently had them for lunch, regardless of ethnicity.

So because that's how it was where you grew up, that's how it should be everywhere? That's kind of the point these yahoos are trying to make -- just because that's how it was where you're from doesn't mean that's how it should be. I'm not defending them because I think they're wrong but when people say stuff like what you just said, it gives them a reason to have to advocate for minorities against ``white privilege.''

It has nothing to do with White privilege.  My point was that PB&J is pretty universal across America.  You do not have to explain to the Jewish kid from  NJ what mole sauce is and you do not have to explain to the Hispanic kid from the NM what Matzo balls are and you don't have to teach those poor Texas kids what real chile is about.  You can actually teach the lesson instead.  If it is important to use close to universal ideas so as not to leave out any one group seems to me PB&J is pretty close to it in the US.

 

What's wrong with a Jewish kid from NJ knowing what mole sauce is or a Texas kid knowing what REAL chile tastes like or an Hispanic kid from NM knowing what matzo balls are? I would think knowledge, and educators educating and teaching diversity, would be a good thing, no?

If you are teaching about cultural diversity it is great if you are trying to teach a math lesson at the time it is extraneous.

 

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If you are trying to teach a problem about acceleration are you fundamentally racist or culturally insensitive if you use a Dodge Viper in your question insead of a Datsun Roadster or a Triumph Spitfire?

 

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frnk36 - 2012-09-12 11:49 AM

Hard to call it a racist food.

Hardly.  It seems pretty easy to call just about anything racist.

 

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white american girl who has never ever had a pb&j checking in.  also, i find the thought of eating a pb&j disgusting.  give me foreign foods any day!
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