selective abortion in Canada

It's not surprising.

But hey, if someone is pro choice
what business is it of theirs to impose
their morality on someone else.

If a woman chooses to abort a girl
simply because she's a girl
what's the problem? 

this is disgusting, and since i like to think most humans aren't horrible people, i find it very surprising.

[and yes i realize how judgmental this sounds, and i stand by it.  you don't carry a baby for 5 months then change your mind, no matter where you stand on the pro-choice spectrum.]

Five months...
Four months...
One month...
One week...

What's the difference.

Who are we to judge what a woman
should do with her body?

What about the people who don't have access to ultrasounds?  They have to wait for the baby to be born before they can decide to dispose of it. 

Where do you draw the line?  I agree with Meh,.. disgusting to end a life because of it's sex.

I don't know.
Seems like reproductive freedom
means reproductive freedom.

If you say a woman can't have an abortion
because of the fetus' sex
then where do you draw the line after that?

Slipper slope there. 

for the record, i'm pro-life, but i can't understand how anyone - even a pro-choicer - could think abortions this late in pregnancy for any reason (barring a life-threatening medical necessity) are OK. 

Got it.

I didn't quote you because I wasn't challenging you personally about what you wrote.

I'm just sure that there are plenty of pro choice folks
who feel the same, so I thought it was an interesting thing to think about. 

you say that with sarcasm, but in some countries that is how it is done.  Which method is preferred? 

bzgl40 - 2012-01-17 2:09 PM I can't believe I am agreeing with Don.  

See it doesn't hurt that much, does it?

Well, if yours is closer to the truth than theirs,
then maybe there's a way to test for it.

So those people require reeducation because 
they have screwed up values
and will abort girl babies because of it. 

Meanwhile, we're fine
even if we want to abort our babies
for really sound reasons. 
Not like those people.

Good point.  Difference being, education is really just a way of getting folks to look at things a different way.  Just like those who are opposed to abortion would try and convince someone who is pro-choice would try and educate me, regardless of my reason.  Education doesn't prevent anyone from doing what they wish.  Just provides them another way of looking at things and allowing them to make up their own mind.  Nothing is forced (not even the education)

I understand.
I agree that people who think it's OK to abort girl babies
need to be educated.

I also want to apologize for my tone in my previous post.
That was terrible of me.
I'm sorry about that. 

I didn't say they should be prevented.  However, it doesn't change the fact that if you abort a baby due to the sex of the baby that, in my eyes, you are a horrible person and murderer.

I have such strong opinions about this topic.  But if I'm not dumb enough to express them in person.  And even though there's the "cloak of Internet invisibility" here, I still think this is a subject best to just walk away from.

Which takes a TON of effort and self-control.  For the BFD to hold back his opinion and shut his mouth (fingers).  Mark this moment guys - It's an extremely rare occurence!

It IS a slippery slope. But I think it is as much a mistake to dogmaticaly see ALL abortion as an evil as it is to see NONE of them as such. I believe abortions should be safe, legal, and rare. But to take your argument further, as the catholic church does, any form of contraception is problematic, since it potentially deprives a life. I'm not saying abortion should be seen as equivalent to contraception, but it is part of a total picture of control of one's reproductive life.

Are there reasons that you would feel are acceptable, morally? 

What about things like financial considerations, parents that are addicts, parents that work insane schedules and feel that would prevent them from being good parents? 

Alright.

So what principles would you use to judge whether a 
particular abortion is evil or not?

(and we're talking about "direct" abortion
where the primary act is to kill the fetus) 

I can justify abortions in cases of rape or when the life of the mother is at risk or other medial conditions that would cause the child to suffer at birth.

Your situations are a bit more gray.  I believe that people need to consider the consequences before they engage in an activity that might produce a life.  Of course consider the bell curve and we all know that's is futile. (You know the old phrase, you need a license to drive but not for a child...)

So that being said, I tend to not make judgements and keep out of arguments in situations like this.  However, if you are aborting a life solely because of the sex...  (in other words you'd keep it and love it if it was the sex you wanted) ... that's monstrous IMO.