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2008-10-06 4:08 PM

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Subject: Run nutrition problems
I ran my third half marathon yesterday, and for the first time on a run I had some significant stomach issues. They first came up at about mile four or five, then went away maybe a mile later, then resurfaced at about mile 10 until I finally had to make a pit stop.

My nutrition for the day was:

Pre-race: a Clif Bar in the morning, about an hour and a half before the race; a few sips of Gatorade; one gel and some water about 15 minutes before the race. All of the pre-race nutrition was normal for me (based on about 12 tris and road races this year).

During-race: about eight Sports Beans, four beans at about mile 4 and four more beans at about mile 8; about 6-8 ounces of water; about 4 ounces of Cytomax. I always followed up the Sports Beans with water.

I should also mention that my stomach has been off-and-on wonky all week, so it could just be I'm fighting some mild bug. But with a marathon coming up in December, I want to make sure I nail my nutrition plan. I've tolerated Sports Beans just fine during long runs, but I've only ever had them with water. I'd never had Cytomax at all before yesterday's race.

What's the best way to figure out what went wrong? The marathon will be using Cytomax and I don't want to carry a fuel belt, so I'm guessing I should start training with Cytomax right away. Or maybe I should skip the energy drinks altogether and just use Sports Beans and Luna Moons (which I also like)? Any other thoughts on experimenting with my nutrition plan?

Am I overthinking all of this? Maybe I just had a bad day...


2008-10-06 4:54 PM
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From someone who has actually pooped my shorts on a long run(that would be me) one big thing I learned is that I needed to look at my nutrition for 2-3 DAYS prior to a long run.

And what I found had to go was fiber and fat. So for 2-3 days, I eat very high on the carb side with only risidual fiber and fat. I usually run long on Sunday, so Friday morning is the last hurrah so to speak.

On my long runs(usually 18 miles these days) I stick with plain water and GU. No sports drink, since that was also irritating to me.


Edited by LittleCat 2008-10-06 4:56 PM
2008-10-06 5:17 PM
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LittleCat - 2008-10-06 3:54 PM

From someone who has actually pooped my shorts on a long run(that would be me) one big thing I learned is that I needed to look at my nutrition for 2-3 DAYS prior to a long run.

And what I found had to go was fiber and fat. So for 2-3 days, I eat very high on the carb side with only risidual fiber and fat. I usually run long on Sunday, so Friday morning is the last hurrah so to speak.

On my long runs(usually 18 miles these days) I stick with plain water and GU. No sports drink, since that was also irritating to me.


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2008-10-06 5:46 PM
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LittleCat - 2008-10-06 5:54 PM

"From someone who has actually pooped my shorts on a long run"

OK that made me LOL @ my desk... Unless there are only 2 people in front of me in a race (1st and 2nd place), I am not sure my level of commitment matches yours. Kudos.

2008-10-06 6:30 PM
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Subject: RE: Run nutrition problems
Erin - I was just thinking about you - there's an article in November 08 Running Times mag, pg 22 about Mary nutrition.  (sept 2008 is what's online so that's not helpful) Can you get your hands on a copy?  if not, PM me and I'll snail it to you.  Doesn't directly address your digestive issues, but talks about latest studies on optional nutrition timing/balance.
2008-10-06 7:02 PM
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Subject: RE: Run nutrition problems
for me, i don't like to take in very many calories while running.  i did a 1/2 about 1.5 weeks ago, and i just ate one gu around mile 6.6 (turn around).  i drank water every water stop (about 2 miles), and i probably could have used just a few more calories.  however, i find my stomach also hurts a little bit after injecting gu.  .


2008-10-06 9:49 PM
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Simplify your plan. It is too hard to exicute all those variables. Find a simple solution that does not contain 4 different products. You are almost bound to mess it up.

Generally for running less is better. Most people mess up by taking too much rather than not enough. You really do not need that much for anything under three hours. Hydrate, a few calories that are simple and easy to take. You will be a lot better off IMO.
2008-10-06 10:44 PM
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I think never having cytomax before the race is probably a big key to the stomach upsets.

remember the old faithful rule "Never do anything new/different on race day"

2008-10-07 12:00 AM
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Subject: RE: Run nutrition problems
Thanks for the replies, folks! One thing I should have pointed out: I agree that this was too much for a half mary, but I was using this race as a prep for the full mary, which was why I was experimenting with Sports Beans and the energy drink. Normally for a half mary I'd just switch between water and whatever energy drink was being offered, and that's fine. But I'm told I should plan on taking in more calories than that for a marathon, so I need to figure out what I can eat.

I think for starters I'll just skip the pre-race gel and Gatorade (thanks, Michael). I'll also think a lot more about what I eat for the several days leading up to the race (thanks, Suzanne -- and thanks for the laugh, too!).

Cynthia, I should be able to find a copy of Running Times. Thanks for the tip!
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