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 2008-06-13 11:31 AM |
Veteran  241   Houston, Texas |  Subject: Japan cuts obesity with Tape MeasureThey may not let me in next time I have to go for business.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/13/world/asia/13fat.html?no_interstitial |
| 2008-06-13 11:45 AM in reply to: #1465048 |
Champion 4942  Richmond, VA | Subject: RE: Japan cuts obesity with Tape Measure I hate to say this, but good for them. I think a big difference in Japan is the cultural issues that you wouldn't find here in the U.S. if you tried something like this. I hate to see what the national average waistline would be for America? |
| 2008-06-13 11:52 AM in reply to: #1465088 |
Veteran 241 Houston, Texas | Subject: RE: Japan cuts obesity with Tape Measure condorman - 2008-06-13 11:45 AM I hate to say this, but good for them. I think a big difference in Japan is the cultural issues that you wouldn't find here in the U.S. if you tried something like this. I hate to see what the national average waistline would be for America?
It says for Caucasian American men the average is 39 inches.
And did you mean that it would be good for them not to let me in? Edited by morgenrr 2008-06-13 11:54 AM |
| 2008-06-13 12:23 PM in reply to: #1465119 |
Champion 4942 Richmond, VA | Subject: RE: Japan cuts obesity with Tape Measure morgenrr - 2008-06-13 12:52 PM condorman - 2008-06-13 11:45 AM I hate to say this, but good for them. I think a big difference in Japan is the cultural issues that you wouldn't find here in the U.S. if you tried something like this. I hate to see what the national average waistline would be for America? It says for Caucasian American men the average is 39 inches.
And did you mean that it would be good for them not to let me in?
In fact, seeing that you live in Texas and re-reading my original post - it provides me a nice chuckle if you think my first comment relates to your going to Japan instead of Japan's measuring its citizens... Edited by condorman 2008-06-13 12:23 PM |
| 2008-06-13 12:27 PM in reply to: #1465048 |
Expert 3974 MA | Subject: RE: Japan cuts obesity with Tape Measure The average Texan is relatively big enough to walk around Tokyo stepping on buildings. Not quite the same scale. There are a lot of Americans who would have a 33.5" or larger waist if they were 10% bodyfat. |
| 2008-06-13 12:32 PM in reply to: #1465226 |
Sensei Sin City | Subject: RE: Japan cuts obesity with Tape Measure It's interesting how other countries handle things like this. I was in Manilla, and they had "help wanted" signs up at stores that gave specific height and weight and other physical feature requirements to be elligable. This to just work as a cashier in a drug store. Things that would NEVER fly in this country - in fact, could be grounds for a law suite, but just out in the open there. |
| 2008-06-13 12:40 PM in reply to: #1465048 |
Pro 4612 MA | Subject: RE: Japan cuts obesity with Tape Measure are sumo wrestlers exempt? |
 2008-06-13 12:53 PM in reply to: #1465048 |
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| 2008-06-13 12:56 PM in reply to: #1465048 |
| Expert 1083 The Woodlands, TX | Subject: RE: Japan cuts obesity with Tape Measure The first time I came home from Japan, the very first thing I noticed upon arriving at the airport was just how fat all the Americans were. It was actually downright gross to see how huge we were in comparison. And I don't mean height. That was 12 years ago, before the obesity epidemic. I was in Japan 3-4 years ago and they are bigger there now, but not huge like we are. There are dessert places on every corner that didn't exist before. Parfaits, crepes and ice cream were rediculously popular there. As are McDonalds and Starbucks. I say good for Japan for doing something about it before it gets completely out of control like it is here. The standards may be a bit strict and up for revisiting, but I'm glad they're making steps in the right direction unlike we are. I'm all for health insurance that is charged like auto - the higher risk you are, the more you pay. That would be a huge step forward for the US, because if we tried something like Japan is doing there would be lawsuits everywhere. |
| 2008-06-13 12:56 PM in reply to: #1465274 |
| Member 1699 | Subject: RE: Japan cuts obesity with Tape Measure I hope this never happens in the U.S. but some day after the government starts giving away free health care, someone will think the U.S. has the right to mandate aspects of health, including size and weight. The term "re-education" reminded me of the Soviet Union. |
| 2008-06-13 1:15 PM in reply to: #1465048 |
Champion 5575 Butler | Subject: RE: Japan cuts obesity with Tape Measure I like the idea but the idea of measuring waistline is crazy, I would rather use BMI. I am pretty sure my waist is over 33.5" but I am 6'7" weigh 210 and am 13%BF. I guess I would have to be re-educated. |
| 2008-06-13 1:18 PM in reply to: #1465394 |
| Expert 3974 MA | Subject: RE: Japan cuts obesity with Tape Measure kproudfoot - 2008-06-13 2:15 PM I like the idea but the idea of measuring waistline is crazy, I would rather use BMI. I am pretty sure my waist is over 33.5" but I am 6'7" weigh 210 and am 13%BF. I guess I would have to be re-educated. BMI fails for the same reason for many others. I used to be 210 at 5'10" and 15% bodyfat. BMI had me a giant fat troll. |
| 2008-06-13 1:26 PM in reply to: #1465048 |
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| 2008-06-13 1:37 PM in reply to: #1465048 |
| Expert 3974 MA | Subject: RE: Japan cuts obesity with Tape Measure Someday I'd like to wear a 32 again. I teeter betwen 38 and 40 now. Yep, I have some chunk to lose. I'm down about 10lb from when I started training and I haven't modified my diet much, though. |
| 2008-06-13 1:39 PM in reply to: #1465405 |
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| 2008-06-13 1:41 PM in reply to: #1465048 |
| Expert 3974 MA | Subject: RE: Japan cuts obesity with Tape Measure I've done really strong. I've done really lean. I've never done really strong and really lean at the same time. |
| 2008-06-13 1:46 PM in reply to: #1465215 |
| Veteran 241 Houston, Texas | Subject: RE: Japan cuts obesity with Tape Measure condorman - 2008-06-13 12:23 PM morgenrr - 2008-06-13 12:52 PM condorman - 2008-06-13 11:45 AM I hate to say this, but good for them. I think a big difference in Japan is the cultural issues that you wouldn't find here in the U.S. if you tried something like this. I hate to see what the national average waistline would be for America? It says for Caucasian American men the average is 39 inches.
And did you mean that it would be good for them not to let me in?
In fact, seeing that you live in Texas and re-reading my original post - it provides me a nice chuckle if you think my first comment relates to your going to Japan instead of Japan's measuring its citizens...
Nah, I knew what you meant. The last time I went to Japan on business I went with a gentleman who is about 6'4 to 6'6 and about 315. Not grossly obese, no gut, just BIG. We were riding the metro train, and his head was above the hanging advertising banners there in the cars. We were having a conversation, and it was funny as h3ll to hear this big booming voice coming from nowhere. Things are just built on a different scale there. I consistently had to turn my shoulders to go thru doors, and in a few older places I had to duck my head as I went thru. My buddy had to do contortions to go thru. |
| 2008-06-13 1:49 PM in reply to: #1465342 |
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| 2008-06-13 1:55 PM in reply to: #1465456 |
| Champion 5575 Butler | Subject: RE: Japan cuts obesity with Tape Measure Rynamite - 2008-06-13 1:39 PM Don't know how you can stand to look at your self in the mirror!chadtower - 2008-06-13 2:18 PM kproudfoot - 2008-06-13 2:15 PM I like the idea but the idea of measuring waistline is crazy, I would rather use BMI. I am pretty sure my waist is over 33.5" but I am 6'7" weigh 210 and am 13%BF. I guess I would have to be re-educated. BMI fails for the same reason for many others. I used to be 210 at 5'10" and 15% bodyfat. BMI had me a giant fat troll.Me too... it called me obese. Yet I wore 32-34" Jeans and could squat 600 lbs. Fatty |
| 2008-06-13 2:53 PM in reply to: #1465048 |
| Pro 6838 Tejas | Subject: RE: Japan cuts obesity with Tape Measure I wonder how much time our Congress will spend debating and voting on some piece of legislation condemning the Japanese for doing this. I'm kidding of course, though it would not surprise me to read it in the news. |
| 2008-06-13 3:01 PM in reply to: #1465456 |
| Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: Japan cuts obesity with Tape Measure Rynamite - 2008-06-13 1:39 PM chadtower - 2008-06-13 2:18 PM kproudfoot - 2008-06-13 2:15 PM I like the idea but the idea of measuring waistline is crazy, I would rather use BMI. I am pretty sure my waist is over 33.5" but I am 6'7" weigh 210 and am 13%BF. I guess I would have to be re-educated. BMI fails for the same reason for many others. I used to be 210 at 5'10" and 15% bodyfat. BMI had me a giant fat troll.Me too... it called me obese. Yet I wore 32-34" Jeans and could squat 600 lbs. Fatty Yeah I'm 5'8 and 155 and it says my BMI is a 24. WHich is borderline obese. Oh yeah, I actually had soemthing to say relating to the topic. As a half-Japanese person I can say that upon my visits they were all impressed with how skinny and in shape I was (this was when I was in college and lifted daily) because they'd heard that all Americans are fat and lazy and obese. How sad that that's the image other country's residents have of us. Edited by mr2tony 2008-06-13 3:03 PM |
| 2008-06-13 3:04 PM in reply to: #1465493 |
| Expert 1083 The Woodlands, TX | Subject: RE: Japan cuts obesity with Tape Measure AcesFull - 2008-06-13 1:49 PM erin116 - 2008-06-13 12:56 PM The first time I came home from Japan, the very first thing I noticed upon arriving at the airport was just how fat all the Americans were. It was actually downright gross to see how huge we were in comparison. And I don't mean height. That was 12 years ago, before the obesity epidemic. I was in Japan 3-4 years ago and they are bigger there now, but not huge like we are. There are dessert places on every corner that didn't exist before. Parfaits, crepes and ice cream were rediculously popular there. As are McDonalds and Starbucks. I say good for Japan for doing something about it before it gets completely out of control like it is here. The standards may be a bit strict and up for revisiting, but I'm glad they're making steps in the right direction unlike we are. I'm all for health insurance that is charged like auto - the higher risk you are, the more you pay. That would be a huge step forward for the US, because if we tried something like Japan is doing there would be lawsuits everywhere. We have an au pair from Poland, and one reason she loves being here is that in Poland she is fat, but in America she is not.
And one of the things I loved about being in Japan was here I am short, there I was about average  |
| 2008-06-13 3:04 PM in reply to: #1465727 |
| Expert 3974 MA | Subject: RE: Japan cuts obesity with Tape Measure mr2tony - 2008-06-13 4:01 PM Oh yeah, I actually had soemthing to say relating to the topic. As a half-Japanese person I can say that upon my visits they were all impressed with how skinny and in shape I was (this was when I was in college and lifted daily) because they'd heard that all Americans are fat and lazy and obese. How sad that that's the image other country's residents have of us. So you told them you're only entitled to be half fat...? |
| 2008-06-13 6:21 PM in reply to: #1465736 |
| Pro 4578 Vancouver, BC | Subject: RE: Japan cuts obesity with Tape Measure erin116 - 2008-06-13 1:04 PM AcesFull - 2008-06-13 1:49 PM And one of the things I loved about being in Japan was here I am short, there I was about average We have an au pair from Poland, and one reason she loves being here is that in Poland she is fat, but in America she is not.
x2. I could actually find shoes that fit! |
| 2008-06-13 6:31 PM in reply to: #1465342 |
| Master 2125 | Subject: RE: Japan cuts obesity with Tape Measure erin116 - 2008-06-13 1:56 PM The first time I came home from Japan, the very first thing I noticed upon arriving at the airport was just how fat all the Americans were. It was actually downright gross to see how huge we were in comparison. And I don't mean height. That was 12 years ago, before the obesity epidemic. I was in Japan 3-4 years ago and they are bigger there now, but not huge like we are. There are dessert places on every corner that didn't exist before. Parfaits, crepes and ice cream were rediculously popular there. As are McDonalds and Starbucks. I say good for Japan for doing something about it before it gets completely out of control like it is here. The standards may be a bit strict and up for revisiting, but I'm glad they're making steps in the right direction unlike we are. I'm all for health insurance that is charged like auto - the higher risk you are, the more you pay. That would be a huge step forward for the US, because if we tried something like Japan is doing there would be lawsuits everywhere. This happened to me when I came home from living in Australia for a year in 2000 and coming back from my recent Taiwan trip. Both times, disgusted. |
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