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2008-09-21 7:27 PM |
17 | Subject: swim help neededMy swimming is easily my worst of the three. Im a beginner to the sport but I can run 5 miles without stopping at a decent pace. My biking is not too shabby either. But I cannot swim one length without dying for air.. I've exhausted all my options with different techniques to prevent water going up my nose, so I've purchased a nose clip and have improved significantly. By improvement I mean making it to the other end without dying. So now that I can make it to the end of a length, like I said, I'm out of breath. So I stop for about a minute or two and continue one more length. I have two questions and really can accept any advice possible. (I will be seeking a coach locally pretty soon). Until then: How exactly do you exhale underwater? Do you continuously exhale slowly, or exhale per each arm stroke, kind of like running. When I run I exhale twice with each step hitting the ground. My other question is kicking in the water. I do not go backwards, but I am not sure if I am kicking properly. I have heard to kick "from the waist" and kick "from the knees" and I am a bit confused either way. Any advice on kicking would be great. Thanks for any help! |
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2008-09-21 7:47 PM in reply to: #1687128 |
Expert 1238![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Denver, Colorado | Subject: RE: swim help neededExhale however is natural. Your body has lots of reflexes to control your breathing, so if you are doing it "wrong" it will force you to do what it wants. I usually exhale continuously, but sometimes I don't. It makes no difference. The same goes for running. Actually it sounds like you are hyperventilating when running. I breathe 8 times less frequently than you do when running--but, again, whatever is natural is fine. Can't offer any help with kicking, because I'm not very good at it. |
2008-09-21 7:55 PM in reply to: #1687128 |
Expert 1023![]() Malvern, England | Subject: RE: swim help neededBreathing out under water - try both and see which feels more comfortable. I have heard two arguments (1) breathe gently out of your mouth to release the bubbles in a continuous stream between breaths - and this is in fact the way I was taught 30 years ago! (2) keep air in and breathe it all out just before you take next breath. I actually prefer the second for me, despite being able to do both - and apparently it helps with your buoyancy as air in the lungs keeps you more buoyant. As for kicking - practice practice practice. A lot of people don't use their legs too much in the actual triathlon but when learning to swim properly it is essential to be able to do this. It is kick from your hips NOT your knees - the amount is dependent on comfort again. You will only go backwards if you are not pointing your toes. Two things can help with this (1) try swim fins - and this also helps to keep your kick going more easily whilst you work on arms/ breathing (2) at home kneel on the floor on your feet - helps with foot flexibility. Good luck - whilst I can always remember being able to swim, I have seen so many posts about breakthroughs whilst learning, it is inspiring. I look forward to reading about yours too. |
2008-09-21 9:05 PM in reply to: #1687128 |
Champion 5117![]() ![]() Brandon, MS | Subject: RE: swim help neededMy first piece of advice is to get some lessons as soon as possible. As for breathing. When my face is in the water, I'm exhaling. When my face is out of the water, I'm inhaling. That's about as complicated as it gets. The kick in triathlon swimming is for balance and maintaining a good body line. If I had to guess, you're proabably furiously kicking with a bunch of knee bend, but still feeling like you're sinking, thus kicking even more. This burns up the oxygen and is why you can't go more than one length. There are drills and stuff you can do, like a kickboard, but get a lesson as soon as you can. |
2008-09-21 10:56 PM in reply to: #1687128 |
Elite 5316![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Alturas, California | Subject: RE: swim help neededYou may want to look up Total Immersion swimming. With a 2 day class you can become a functional freestyler within a month or 2. Meaning that you will be able to complete a half mile to a mile if you put in the time. It works on getting your body from a 45 degree angle which I imagine it is now to an almost flat profile in the water (from head to toe that is, you are angled from side to side). Breathing follows having correct body position and well you can progess pretty well without any kick to speak of. (up to 2:00 / 100 anyway). |
2008-09-22 8:12 AM in reply to: #1687128 |
Champion 7558![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Albuquerque, New Mexico | Subject: RE: swim help neededSteady, controlled, exhale while your face is in the water. I tell people to hum which forces air out through the nose (keeping water from entering the nose). Roll to the side for a quick (controlled) inhale, and your back to exhaling. For the kick. Start with your hips (really core rotation) with your knees and ankles loose. If you sit on the side of the pool with your feet in the water, kick them (together) back and forth with your ankles loose. You'll notice your toes point away when water pushes on the top of your foot, and they hook a little when pushing your soles against the water. Your knee is the same (but harder to demonstrate). |
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2008-09-22 8:25 AM in reply to: #1687648 |
Elite 7783![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: swim help neededMcFuzz - 2008-09-22 10:12 AM Steady, controlled, exhale while your face is in the water. I tell people to hum which forces air out through the nose (keeping water from entering the nose). Roll to the side for a quick (controlled) inhale, and your back to exhaling. X2 on this. A slow steady exhale through the nose will serve two purposes. It keeps water from entering the nose (which you said you were struggling with) and I find it helps keep my breathing controlled - as opposed to quick gasping which leads to tiring more quickly. |
2008-09-22 1:05 PM in reply to: #1687128 |
Extreme Veteran 580![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: swim help neededPractice, practice, practice! I started swimming in May on my own. Was out of breath in 25 yards. Worked on my own, fought the water and was able to swim 300 for a race. Joined a masters swim group and the coach worked with me one on one. She had me stop swimming entirely for about 2 weeks. It was drills, drills, drills. Now, I am swimming the entire masters workout (2850 yards this a.m.) and could do the entire distance without stopping if I had to. I struggled with the whole breathing thing too, I was gasping for air. With time, your in-water aerobic capacity will improve and it will get easier. Plus, I find my swimming improves every single time I get into the water. In fact, I swim better mid-workout than I do at the beginning. Kick from the waist and don't kick too much - the harder I kick, the more tired I get! A coach will really help you and I really recommend it. Good luck! |
2008-09-22 6:35 PM in reply to: #1687128 |
Expert 1040![]() ![]() SF Bay Area | Subject: RE: swim help neededPM sent. Get your breathing down, once you do that it will be a different world for you. For beginning swimmers, it begins and ends with O2/CO2. Shop around before you sign up with a coach. Jeff |
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