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Elite 4564 Boise | Subject: RE: Casualties of the current economy... SweetK - 2008-10-06 7:50 PM http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081006/ap_on_re_us/bodies_found Man kills family over financial situation... sadly there is probably more to come.
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Master 2808 , Minnesota | Subject: RE: Casualties of the current economy... Doesn't say anything about the current economy but sure says alot about the guys mental condition. SweetK - 2008-10-06 7:50 PM http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081006/ap_on_re_us/bodies_found Man kills family over financial situation... sadly there is probably more to come. |
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Alpharetta, GA | Subject: RE: Casualties of the current economy... surfwallace - 2008-10-07 8:27 AM leapdog - 2008-10-06 10:30 PM Doesn't say anything about the current economy but sure says alot about the guys mental condition. Seriously! Anybody who could kill their kids is messed up in the head way more than anything the economy could ever do. What an a-hole!SweetK - 2008-10-06 7:50 PM http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081006/ap_on_re_us/bodies_foundMan kills family over financial situation... sadly there is probably more to come. X3. Taking out five others, including your own three children, is wacked. |
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Extreme Veteran 500 On the road...somewhere | Subject: RE: Casualties of the current economy... SweetK - 2008-10-07 7:44 AM surfwallace - 2008-10-07 8:27 AM leapdog - 2008-10-06 10:30 PM Doesn't say anything about the current economy but sure says alot about the guys mental condition. SweetK - 2008-10-06 7:50 PM http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081006/ap_on_re_us/bodies_found Man kills family over financial situation... sadly there is probably more to come. Seriously! Anybody who could kill their kids is messed up in the head way more than anything the economy could ever do. What an a-hole! Bush is responsible. The economic situation drove him to it... kind of similar to men who jumped off of buildings in the 30's when the stock market tanked. I agree he was messed up and do not condone his actions, but I also don't think this case will not remain isolated as the market remains as volatile as it is and many have their financial security in dire risk. |
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Veteran 561 Arden Hills, MN | Subject: RE: Casualties of the current economy... Anditrigirl - 2008-10-07 7:40 AM surfwallace - 2008-10-07 8:27 AM leapdog - 2008-10-06 10:30 PM Doesn't say anything about the current economy but sure says alot about the guys mental condition. Seriously! Anybody who could kill their kids is messed up in the head way more than anything the economy could ever do. What an a-hole!SweetK - 2008-10-06 7:50 PM http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081006/ap_on_re_us/bodies_foundMan kills family over financial situation... sadly there is probably more to come. X3. Taking out five others, including your own three children, is wacked. X4! |
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Runner | Subject: RE: Casualties of the current economy... The man's economic situation drove him to it. We have no real idea if his personal situation was related to anything else. |
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Coach 10487 Boston, MA | Subject: RE: Casualties of the current economy... SweetK - 2008-10-07 7:44 AM uummmm, I guess that's a why to justify it and place blame in anything else but the fact this guy was a lunatic and a coward...surfwallace - 2008-10-07 8:27 AM The economic situation drove him to it... kind of similar to men who jumped off of buildings in the 30's when the stock market tanked. I agree he was messed up and do not condone his actions, but I also don't think this case will not remain isolated as the market remains as volatile as it is and many have their financial security in dire risk.leapdog - 2008-10-06 10:30 PM Doesn't say anything about the current economy but sure says alot about the guys mental condition. Seriously! Anybody who could kill their kids is messed up in the head way more than anything the economy could ever do. What an a-hole!SweetK - 2008-10-06 7:50 PM http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081006/ap_on_re_us/bodies_foundMan kills family over financial situation... sadly there is probably more to come. |
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Pro 3906 Libertyville, IL | Subject: RE: Casualties of the current economy... SweetK - 2008-10-07 7:44 AM surfwallace - 2008-10-07 8:27 AM The economic situation drove him to it... kind of similar to men who jumped off of buildings in the 30's when the stock market tanked. I agree he was messed up and do not condone his actions, but I also don't think this case will not remain isolated as the market remains as volatile as it is and many have their financial security in dire risk.leapdog - 2008-10-06 10:30 PM Doesn't say anything about the current economy but sure says alot about the guys mental condition. Seriously! Anybody who could kill their kids is messed up in the head way more than anything the economy could ever do. What an a-hole!SweetK - 2008-10-06 7:50 PM http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081006/ap_on_re_us/bodies_foundMan kills family over financial situation... sadly there is probably more to come. This happened in a gated community in LA. Sure we dont know the situation here, but you can probably guess this is a selfish desire to not subject himself and his family to cutting back their lifestyle to mix with the common folk. Maybe this guy was in over his head from the start and now that things are hitting the fan in the economy, yeah, there is gonna be struggle. This is an act of cowardice and selfishness and to say otherwise is a slap in the face to the people that do have the courage to gut it out to support their families in good and bad and underscores the need for people to look at what is important in these times. |
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Master 2379 Alpharetta, GA | Subject: RE: Casualties of the current economy... jszat - 2008-10-07 9:47 AM SweetK - 2008-10-07 7:44 AM surfwallace - 2008-10-07 8:27 AM The economic situation drove him to it... kind of similar to men who jumped off of buildings in the 30's when the stock market tanked. I agree he was messed up and do not condone his actions, but I also don't think this case will not remain isolated as the market remains as volatile as it is and many have their financial security in dire risk.leapdog - 2008-10-06 10:30 PM Doesn't say anything about the current economy but sure says alot about the guys mental condition. Seriously! Anybody who could kill their kids is messed up in the head way more than anything the economy could ever do. What an a-hole!SweetK - 2008-10-06 7:50 PM http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081006/ap_on_re_us/bodies_foundMan kills family over financial situation... sadly there is probably more to come. This happened in a gated community in LA. Sure we dont know the situation here, but you can probably guess this is a selfish desire to not subject himself and his family to cutting back their lifestyle to mix with the common folk. Maybe this guy was in over his head from the start and now that things are hitting the fan in the economy, yeah, there is gonna be struggle. This is an act of cowardice and selfishness and to say otherwise is a slap in the face to the people that do have the courage to gut it out to support their families in good and bad and underscores the need for people to look at what is important in these times. From the article: "Moore did not specify what financial trouble the man had been in. He noted that the family did not own the home." Sounds like he *was* the common folk attempting to live above means... |
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Champion 6056 Menomonee Falls, WI | Subject: RE: Casualties of the current economy... SweetK - 2008-10-07 7:44 AM The economic situation drove him to it... kind of similar to men who jumped off of buildings in the 30's when the stock market tanked. Even that was largely an urban MYTH. You know, like the one Dem's are trying to sell that Bush was somehow solely responsible for the current economic crisis, when they have a lot of blood on their own hands. From Slate: Between Black Thursday and the end of 1929, only four of the 100 suicides and suicide attempts reported in the New York Times were plunges linked to the crash, and only two took place on Wall Street. |
2008-10-07 9:46 AM in reply to: #1722399 |
Member 279 DC Metro | Subject: RE: Casualties of the current economy... Although its obvious, That is very messed up. Unfortunately, some people do not know how to manage in a time of crisis. Kill yourself, don't kill the family (ok don't kill yourself, seek help!). |
2008-10-07 10:03 AM in reply to: #1722399 |
Pro 4612 MA | Subject: RE: Casualties of the current economy...
THis is a process of natural selection. 1. The world is over-populated. 2. Survival of the fittest - those who chose to die understand that they are not "fit" to survive in such economic situation. (they are pretty messed up to choose this path in the first place) Therefore this economic crisis is doing the world a favor. Edited by D.K. 2008-10-07 10:03 AM |
2008-10-07 10:53 AM in reply to: #1722399 |
Master 2277 Lake Norman, NC | Subject: RE: Casualties of the current economy... There's got be a special place in Hell for people who choose to kill others (especially children) along with taking their own lives.
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Extreme Veteran 700 Tucson | Subject: RE: Casualties of the current economy... From the article: "Moore did not specify what financial trouble the man had been in. He noted that the family did not own the home." Sounds like he *was* the common folk attempting to live above means... Given red italics are usually sarcastic, I'll overlook that here. Just because a family doesn't own the home they live in, in a nice neighborhood, doesn't mean they are living above their means. We happen to live a small subdivision (albeit not gated, although there are many homes for rent in the one down the street!) and we don't own the home we live in, nor are we living above our means. We just are not in a position to buy a house right now. And by that I mean, I just got my MBA which may lead me to taking a job somewhere else and we're saving up for a 20% down payment on something when the housing market finally gets near the bottom (which it is not yet).
Moral - Renting a home (which I assume by the fact of not owning), doesn't mean you are living outside your means. |
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Extreme Veteran 580 Kansas City, MO | Subject: RE: Casualties of the current economy... kmanus - 2008-10-07 11:50 AM We just are not in a position to buy a house right now. And by that I mean, I just got my MBA which may lead me to taking a job somewhere else and we're saving up for a 20% down payment on something when the housing market finally gets near the bottom (which it is not yet). Man that is so 1990's. Where have you been? The thing to do is, apparently, go out and find a bank to give you a flakey sub-prime loan on the most expensive house you can find, preferably one where you can't afford to buy enough furniture to fill it up. Then, get a little behind on the payments, cry about how unfair it all is, and *PRESTO*, the fed will bail you out. The bailout details are a little sketchy still, but once your bank sells the fed your mortgage that you can't afford, they'll come to you with offers of reduction in principal, settling on a nice fixed rate, etc. In the meantime, you can thumb your noses at all us dumb folk who played by the rules, bought a house we could afford, and continue to make the payments every month because our contract says to. Please note, this isn't actually directed at kmanus or anyone else in COJ, I'm just venting a little about the financial crisis. Made the mistake of peeking at my (rapidly shrinking) 401k this morning. |
2008-10-07 12:22 PM in reply to: #1724186 |
Pro 3906 Libertyville, IL | Subject: RE: Casualties of the current economy... kmanus - 2008-10-07 11:50 AM From the article: "Moore did not specify what financial trouble the man had been in. He noted that the family did not own the home." Sounds like he *was* the common folk attempting to live above means... Given red italics are usually sarcastic, I'll overlook that here. Just because a family doesn't own the home they live in, in a nice neighborhood, doesn't mean they are living above their means. We happen to live a small subdivision (albeit not gated, although there are many homes for rent in the one down the street!) and we don't own the home we live in, nor are we living above our means. We just are not in a position to buy a house right now. And by that I mean, I just got my MBA which may lead me to taking a job somewhere else and we're saving up for a 20% down payment on something when the housing market finally gets near the bottom (which it is not yet).
Moral - Renting a home (which I assume by the fact of not owning), doesn't mean you are living outside your means. The moral isnt necessarily true in that someone can choose to rent a place outside of their budget just as easily as they can (or hopefully could) buy a place outside of their cash flow. The moral is that folks should understand their financial situation and work within parameters that will not get them in over their heads financially. There is a lot of speculation as to what exactly go this guy in trouble. Heck, at the root of it maybe he was a gambler and owed some bookies cash. Who knows. Whatever it was, financial distress of some sort made him think this was the only way out. However, to blame this on the underlying economy vs a whole basket of underlying 'other's is pretty ridiculous methinks. Kudos to you for keeping things reasonable for your household budget BTW. We would be in a much better place as a nation if folks acted as responsibly. |
2008-10-07 12:48 PM in reply to: #1722399 |
Elite 3519 San Jose, CA | Subject: RE: Casualties of the current economy... I almost understand killing yourself. I mean if life gets soooo bad that you just can't see a way out...but I don't see the killing of wife and kids. I actually wonder if the family even knew how bad off they were? Could he not stand them thinking he was a coward? Why kill anyone else? I don't understand that part. And why not move? I understand that its hard...but harder than death? This is what makes me think the guy was more messed up than just the down turn in the economy. |
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