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 2009-07-21 6:50 PM |
Veteran 294   Boston |  Subject: what is your stroke per length #?I know (or think) the most common pool length is 25 yards, but I am also curious as to whether people know their stroke count in a 50 meter pool (there are no yard-based pools where I live). I've just recently started paying attention to this stuff and after reading that post on 10 points to swimming, and by using a lot of those suggested techniques I went from around 47 strokes per length in a 50m pool to 41!! I was SUPER excited, but then I was thinking back to hearing about some triathlete who has an average of around 25 in a 50 meter pool...?! What is your stroke count? What is a good count to aspire towards as a triathlete? (I'm assuming 41 in a 50m might translate to something like 18-19 in a 25 yd pool taking account the pushoff (2 strokes added) and the obvious math conversion. Edited by cam224 2009-07-21 6:56 PM |
| 2009-07-21 7:40 PM in reply to: #2300088 |
Expert 1194 | Subject: RE: what is your stroke per length #? 16 or 17 every time....well every time ive counted anyway!!  |
| 2009-07-21 7:51 PM in reply to: #2300088 |
Elite 7783   PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: what is your stroke per length #? I am 13-14 in a 25m pool so I put down 25-29 in a 50m but I haven't actually swam in a 50m pool in a looooong time. |
| 2009-07-21 7:51 PM in reply to: #2300088 |
Master 1572 PA | Subject: RE: what is your stroke per length #? consistently 16 in a 25 yd pool. |
| 2009-07-21 7:55 PM in reply to: #2300088 |
| Delaware, OH | Subject: RE: what is your stroke per length #? 19 strokes per 25yds...but I'm also 5 feet 2 inches tall with heels.  |
| 2009-07-21 7:56 PM in reply to: #2300227 |
Master 2277 Lake Norman, NC | Subject: RE: what is your stroke per length #? gopennstate - 2009-07-21 8:51 PM consistently 16 in a 25 yd pool. ditto |
| 2009-07-21 8:13 PM in reply to: #2300088 |
Champion 7595 Columbia, South Carolina | Subject: RE: what is your stroke per length #? In 25m, 17-18 if I'm playing 'golf', 20 if I'm well-focused on form; 21-22 if my form is deteriorating. In 25yd, 0-1 less than those numbers. I would love to be able to be consistently 16-17, but right now 17 is the lower limit of what I can do and still cover 25m. That's all with pretty minimal push off the wall -- I almost never push hard off the wall. Edited by Experior 2009-07-21 8:13 PM |
| 2009-07-21 8:27 PM in reply to: #2300088 |
Veteran 267 | Subject: RE: what is your stroke per length #? Ummm, yeah. I guess it's time to work with a swim coach. Mine is a staggering 28. Yes, you read that correctly. |
| 2009-07-21 8:33 PM in reply to: #2300088 |
Expert 749 Oakland, Fl | Subject: RE: what is your stroke per length #? consistantly 16-17 |
| 2009-07-21 8:38 PM in reply to: #2300088 |
Veteran 267 | Subject: RE: what is your stroke per length #? AAAAHHH. How the heck do ya'll do 25 in less than 20? I suck at the swim. |
| 2009-07-21 8:42 PM in reply to: #2300088 |
Regular 316 | Subject: RE: what is your stroke per length #? 17-19 1st 500 then more consistent 19-21; still trying to consistently stay under 20. p.s. that's for 25m |
| 2009-07-21 8:51 PM in reply to: #2300088 |
Champion 6627 Rochester Hills, Michigan Gold member | Subject: RE: what is your stroke per length #? 16 per 25M for me, doesn't matter if it's a 50m or 25m pool. |
| 2009-07-21 10:19 PM in reply to: #2300088 |
Extreme Veteran 597 Fairfax | Subject: RE: what is your stroke per length #? 11-12 in a 25yd pool, 12-14 in a 25m pool There really isn't an "ideal" number, it's individual to each person. At 6'2", my numbers will be much lower than someone who is 5'2". |
| 2009-07-22 5:52 AM in reply to: #2300088 |
Veteran 351 | Subject: RE: what is your stroke per length #? 32. yup. Did I mention, however, that I'm only 5'2", have only been swimming for a month and a half, and have only counted strokes once so far, though.... |
| 2009-07-22 8:29 AM in reply to: #2300088 |
Master 1327 Ann Arbor, Michigan | Subject: RE: what is your stroke per length #? 21-22 or sometimes more if I'm not paying attention, and I just stopped caring frankly. (did I say that out loud?) I started watching shorter women who were uber fast in the pool and counting their strokes and this one chick, who's done like 8 Ironmans had a lot of turnover, I thought, so I stopped obsessing. As long as I don't drown before I get to the bike, I'm good. :-> |
| 2009-07-22 8:33 AM in reply to: #2300088 |
| Extreme Veteran 454 OKC | Subject: RE: what is your stroke per length #? If I'm playing swim golf and getting a lot of glide & wall push-off: 14 per 25 yards.
If I'm swimming normally, and not reaching the flags on push-off: 18-19 per 25 yards. |
| 2009-07-22 8:39 AM in reply to: #2300088 |
Champion 8540 the colony texas | Subject: RE: what is your stroke per length #? usually I"m right at 14-15, by the end of a workout I'm usually 15-16 even though everyone is different I'd be willing to bet the faster swimmers will have the lower numbers. I was always amazed at masters swim watching the ex college swimmers and how few strokes they took while moving so fast, I"d look like a hyper windmill next to them |
| 2009-07-22 9:13 AM in reply to: #2300088 |
Regular 149 Grand Blanc, MI | Subject: RE: what is your stroke per length #? Ok, I'm definitely doing something wrong. Mine is 18-19/25 yds. I'm 6'4"!! I consider myself an above average swimmer, usually top 5 out of water in over 40 age group and swam competitively through high school. What the heck is going on here?  |
| 2009-07-22 9:16 AM in reply to: #2300404 |
| Subject: RE: what is your stroke per length #? rkreuser - 2009-07-21 6:51 PM Yup. Two of the fastest people in our pool (as in, she used to swim for Italy), have 20+16 per 25M for me, doesn't matter if it's a 50m or 25m pool. |
| 2009-07-22 9:20 AM in reply to: #2301206 |
Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: what is your stroke per length #? ChrisM - 2009-07-22 9:16 AM rkreuser - 2009-07-21 6:51 PM Yup. Two of the fastest people in our pool (as in, she used to swim for Italy), have 20+16 per 25M for me, doesn't matter if it's a 50m or 25m pool. x3. DPS drills are good for working on efficiency and body position, but for some a higher stroke count can be much faster without a huge energy cost. Sure I can swim 25 yards with an 11-12 stoke count but it's slow. Don't forgo good pacing just to have a low DPS. |
| 2009-07-22 10:00 AM in reply to: #2300088 |
| New user 219 | Subject: RE: what is your stroke per length #? if I do some warm up drillls and really concentrate, I can do 17-18. But more usuallly I am at about 22-23. |
| 2009-07-22 10:18 AM in reply to: #2300088 |
Expert 2547 The Woodlands, TX | Subject: RE: what is your stroke per length #? I'm 11-12 depending on the timing of the turn. I am planning on swimming in a 50 meter pool at lunch today so I will count. Backing up some previous posts, I wouldn't get too hung up on the actual count. That is a result of better swimming, not really a tool to become a better swimmer. Just like when you train for an Ironman you lose weight, but just trying to lose weight won't really make you a better Ironman athlete. |
| 2009-07-22 10:55 AM in reply to: #2300088 |
Veteran 249 Littleton, Colorado | Subject: RE: what is your stroke per length #? 16 or 17 for me pretty consistantly @ 1:30/100 pace. Counted one person at my pool took 37 and had a pace of about 3:00/100. He's there pretty frequently, but doesn't spend anytime trying to improve his form and it shows. |
| 2009-07-22 11:31 AM in reply to: #2300088 |
Extreme Veteran 745 Colo Springs, CO | Subject: RE: what is your stroke per length #? I'm pretty consistent at 17-18/25 yds now. Was at 25/25yds when I started training last year! And just to be clear... we are counting each hand entry as a stroke, right? I know that a while ago there was a thread on stroke count and someone posted that they were at 11 strokoes/25yds and it then came out that this person was counting left arm + right arm = 1 stroke. So they really had a stroke count of 22. I wonder if there are some people that might be counting that way... just a thought. |
| 2009-07-22 11:33 AM in reply to: #2301523 |
Extreme Veteran 745 Colo Springs, CO | Subject: RE: what is your stroke per length #? V1per41 - 2009-07-22 9:55 AM Counted one person at my pool took 37 and had a pace of about 3:00/100. He's there pretty frequently, but doesn't spend anytime trying to improve his form and it shows. There is a pool near me that is 20 yds (yup, that's not a typo) and I once counted someone getting 35 strokes/length there. |
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