Tell me about Obama

The DNC wanted to cash in while his stock was high and he was an unknown. The more people come to know, the less they like. He was unqualified to be POTUS just based on his record for me. But I can't comprehend how you continue to support a guy that railed against Bush and what he did for two straight years, then get's in office and strengthens and increases much of what Bush did. At least Bush was doing it because he believed it and said he was going to.

Where is the unprecedented transparency? Where are the budget cuts promised to pay for spending increases? Where is the end to war and "fear" based surveillance? Where is the new era of government?

I voted for him twice.

He will end up (if he isn't already) being one of the worst presidents this country has known. 

Could you expound on that?

Why do you say he will end up the worst? Was this your view before that second vote or did it change in the last 7 months? Or was your vote a vote against Romney?

Here is a good read on the subject from WSJ.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324412604578519482313147400.html

I'll expand on it, but only with the qualifier that I feel like a total dumbazz.  The other qualifier being that I think all current politicians are effed up.  The entire Congress should be gutted.  They're despicable.  They no longer represent their constituents; they pander to lobbyists and PACS and need to be thrown out.

OK, that being said, I think Obama's been weak. I voted him for the second time because I thought, having secured a second term, he would be the president I hoped he would be in the first term.  And because Mittens?  Seriously?  No, helllllllz no.

The current partisan political climate is completely disgusting.  Our budget crisis, and continued outrageous levels of spending, are a sick joke that I don't know how we are going to recover from.

There really has not been a candidate that I have loved lately.  I am pro-choice. I think people should be able to marry whoever they want.  I think we should have real environmental controls and looking for REAL energy independence through "green" technology.  I think we should wean Big AG off of subsidies, just as I think we should put limits on welfare and unemployment. We need to overhaul SS.  And we need a freakin balanced budget. I don't mind paying my taxes, but not for the crap that we're currently doing.  That candidate doesn't exist, but I thought Obama would come closer than Mittens.

I'm no die-hard Dem.  I will vote for the right person, or, the least of the evils.  Hence, Obama x2.  If the Pubs could have come up with anyone halfway decent, I would have seriously considered them.  The litany of losers they put forth was just mind-blowing. 

Thanks.

I don't agree with all of that but I agree with most of it. I personally voted for Gary Johnson, I would have liked to vote for Paul if he had made the ballot. Would you be willing to vote Libertarian next time and if you were not happy with the two choices in 2012 did you consider the 3rd party or did you see that as a waste of a vote?

The first fight my husband and I had when we were dating was about him voting for Nader. (We had been drinking and bow target practice shooting all afternoon--bad combo).  I was, for about two hours, thinking it was going to be a deal breaker that he could have thought it would be OK to "throw away" a vote in such a critical election.  How effing irresponsible!  I couldn't be with someone like that! Harumph *slams down bow, goes inside, gets another beer and gets sulky*

I've turned the corner on this now.  I'm done with a two party system. It's inherently flawed and there's no bringing it back.  We need a revolution of sorts, and if part of that is risking "losing" my vote by voting for a 3rd party candidate, hellz yes I'll do it.  Really, if it were up to me, every single one of the members of Congress would be out.  Their actions are irresponsible and morally reprehensible. 

My views are probably more libertarian than anything else, but I'd really like to have someone low on the nut job scale.  If the Libertarians put someone like that up, yep, I'll definitely consider it.

Cool, thanks for the response. 

I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I also struggled with the "throwing the vote away" thing this year. But I finally decided if the best the GOP could do is run out the same sorry spectacle they had in 2008 it was time to make a statement and vote for the candidate who closest fit my views and that was the Libertarian. I don't really like Johnson so much but he was closer than Romney or Obama.

I am hoping for Rand Paul in 2016. Even my crazy "conservative" republican parents are getting fed up so hopefully there is enough tide to get a serious 3rd candidate going next time around. 

hahaha and ugh. 

Yeah, Aaron, I think a lot of people are beyond pizzed, and they're ready to do something about it.  I hope they are, anyway.  I work in a FREAKY liberal town, which is, fine, for the most part--I am really very liberal in a lot of ways.  Anyway, I'm surrounded by die-hard Dems and worked-both-campaigns Obama supporters.  They're even turning.  Some of them.  Some are still as delusional as ever and need a firm double shoulder shake :/

There could be four parties on the next ballot if the Pubs don't circle the wagons better and stop splitting their party.  And I  if we get another fiscally retarded person in office we are going to be in a world of hurt that we haven't yet known as a nation.

Agreed.  I think a four headed monster would be bad.  I don't want four, but I think if the Pubs split that's what we'll have next go round.

I think there are myriad reasons why three parties would be good for us, but namely, namely to shake up the institutions that have become the Republican and Democratic parties and the entitlement, nepotism, and pandering that have become the norm.  The Old Guard on Committees and Subcommittees that is, in large part, responsible for appropriations, needs a check that I don't think can happen with continuing the two-party system.

Also, though you can still have partisan issues with three parties, it does shift the dynamic quite a bit, and people who are a lot smarter about this stuff than I am argue that it could get "more done".  What that more is could, obviously, be just as scary as what's going on now.

Tru dat. Double tru.

whatever president comes to office Is f....d. Our country has issues that are much bigger than who is in office.  Obama has not been able to deliver, but I still believe in the dream of good government. We do not really live in a country that allows for this to happen. 

Based on the IRS, NSA, Benghazi etc.. scandals that have come to light as of late, I think that is all it will ever be.... a dream...(or maybe a memory) The US government has some serious fundamental issues that are going to cause massive problems in the future.  Our grandchildren will live in a MUCH different world that we are.