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What are some good swim times for Beginner 1500 meter swims?


2013-06-26 9:42 PM
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for a beginner swimmer? if you finished without struggling or feeling like death coming out of the water you did good.

you have plenty of time to improve on your pace still.

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2013-06-26 10:23 PM
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I am VERY happy with my 32-33 minute 1500m pool time consider I couldn't even swim 100m last year. I'm also very happy that there's a lot of room for improvement! That being said what time is good is all relative to the athlete and his/her goals.
2013-06-26 10:40 PM
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Shut up and swim. Back in April my 1500 time was around 55 minutes. Last week it was 48 minutes. Some swims are better than others. Who cares what a beginner swim time is. I really learned to swim about a year ago. Before that I was just churning the water and trying not to drown.
2013-06-27 3:12 AM
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Google some results for Olympic distance triathlons and look at the swim times.  Granted, not all swim courses are created equal...some aren't measured correctly, some have waves/current, and some allow wetsuits where others don't.  But generally you'll see the range of swim times of the elites all the way to the people who come out of the water last.  From there you can determine for yourself what kind of time you think is "good for a beginner."
2013-06-27 6:48 AM
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I would say that 2:00 / 100 yards is a good time to strive for as a beginner. However, as posted above, it is of little use if you are totally gassed when you get done with the swim. You need to get your technique right first.


2013-06-27 7:00 AM
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I would say the question is a little too ambiguous to answer, but I will give it a shot anyway.

If you are a completely new simmer as many adult beginner triathletes are then 2:00/100 yd is probably a good pace to start. There are plenty of people that swim slower than this and still have very good overall times.

I would say the average AG swimmer that has been competing in triathlon for a few years or more and finishes MOP would swim around a 1:40 - 1:45/100 pace. This will not put you in the "elite" category by any means but is respectable and will get you on the bike with the crowd.

Strong swimmers are generally going to swim in the 1:30/100 range or faster. If you are swimming faster than a 1:30 pace then you will generally be top 10% or so out of the water for an AG swimmer.

Depending on the race, you may have some "super swimmers" that show up and compete. These people usually race in the open divisions and I have seen some crazy fast times even locally. For instance, I did a local Oly a few weeks ago. I grew up a swimmer so my swim times are generally quick enough to get me in the FOP. My swim time was 27:34 (about a 1:27/100) and this included about a 1 minute run to transition. This time put me roughly in the top 10% of people out of the water. However, there were a few "super swimmers" in the group including a guy who's swim split was 19:38 including the run to transition. This was a freakishly fast time!

With all of that said, if you really are new to swimming and can do 1500yds without stopping then you are way ahead of the game. Don't worry so much about time and pace and instead work on good form and making the swim feel as easy as possible. Speed will come with time in the water.
2013-06-27 7:09 AM
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Originally posted by clemson05

I would say the question is a little too ambiguous to answer, but I will give it a shot anyway.

If you are a completely new simmer as many adult beginner triathletes are then 2:00/100 yd is probably a good pace to start. There are plenty of people that swim slower than this and still have very good overall times.

I would say the average AG swimmer that has been competing in triathlon for a few years or more and finishes MOP would swim around a 1:40 - 1:45/100 pace. This will not put you in the "elite" category by any means but is respectable and will get you on the bike with the crowd.

Strong swimmers are generally going to swim in the 1:30/100 range or faster. If you are swimming faster than a 1:30 pace then you will generally be top 10% or so out of the water for an AG swimmer.

Depending on the race, you may have some "super swimmers" that show up and compete. These people usually race in the open divisions and I have seen some crazy fast times even locally. For instance, I did a local Oly a few weeks ago. I grew up a swimmer so my swim times are generally quick enough to get me in the FOP. My swim time was 27:34 (about a 1:27/100) and this included about a 1 minute run to transition. This time put me roughly in the top 10% of people out of the water. However, there were a few "super swimmers" in the group including a guy who's swim split was 19:38 including the run to transition. This was a freakishly fast time!

With all of that said, if you really are new to swimming and can do 1500yds without stopping then you are way ahead of the game. Don't worry so much about time and pace and instead work on good form and making the swim feel as easy as possible. Speed will come with time in the water.

I swam a 24:07 (Oly Tri) this weekend which put me in second in my AG (25-29) But only put me 49th overall out of 160.... First and second place both swam in the 16:00 range...
2013-06-27 7:29 AM
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Originally posted by The Dude14
Originally posted by clemson05
I swam a 24:07 (Oly Tri) this weekend which put me in second in my AG (25-29) But only put me 49th overall out of 160.... First and second place both swam in the 16:00 range...

Wow... 16:XX for 1500 meters is blazing fast... I'm sure glad I don't race with the folks you do!

ETA: to the OP... I'd say that striving to get to a 2:00/100m is a good beginner goal, but in the end finishing is really all that matters!



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2013-06-27 7:49 AM
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Originally posted by clemson05

I would say the average AG swimmer that has been competing in triathlon for a few years or more and finishes MOP would swim around a 1:40 - 1:45/100 pace. This will not put you in the "elite" category by any means but is respectable and will get you on the bike with the crowd.

Strong swimmers are generally going to swim in the 1:30/100 range or faster. If you are swimming faster than a 1:30 pace then you will generally be top 10% or so out of the water for an AG swimmer.




Oddly, here in Dallas, TX for my age group (40-44), a 1:40 per 100 puts me usually first out of the water. 1:40 is not MOP for female age groupers. At least not where I compete. I have been swimming a solid 1:40 per 100 in open water for the last 7 years, and I'm usually top 3... unless it is a HIM with a lot of competition or an IM. Even then, I'm top 15 (out of up to 100 people).

For the men, it might be different.

2013-06-27 7:51 AM
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I second many of the great comments above. The key is to focus on form, staying calm, and practice sighting. It's amazing what a nice, smooth swim can do to making you feel confident for the remainder of the race.

Keep it up.....speed comes with time. Finish strong!


2013-06-27 8:13 AM
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first 1500 race was 21:35, age 11.
2013-06-27 8:18 AM
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Originally posted by clemson05

I would say the question is a little too ambiguous to answer, but I will give it a shot anyway.

If you are a completely new simmer as many adult beginner triathletes are then 2:00/100 yd is probably a good pace to start. There are plenty of people that swim slower than this and still have very good overall times.

I would say the average AG swimmer that has been competing in triathlon for a few years or more and finishes MOP would swim around a 1:40 - 1:45/100 pace. This will not put you in the "elite" category by any means but is respectable and will get you on the bike with the crowd.

Strong swimmers are generally going to swim in the 1:30/100 range or faster. If you are swimming faster than a 1:30 pace then you will generally be top 10% or so out of the water for an AG swimmer.

Depending on the race, you may have some "super swimmers" that show up and compete. These people usually race in the open divisions and I have seen some crazy fast times even locally. For instance, I did a local Oly a few weeks ago. I grew up a swimmer so my swim times are generally quick enough to get me in the FOP. My swim time was 27:34 (about a 1:27/100) and this included about a 1 minute run to transition. This time put me roughly in the top 10% of people out of the water. However, there were a few "super swimmers" in the group including a guy who's swim split was 19:38 including the run to transition. This was a freakishly fast time!

With all of that said, if you really are new to swimming and can do 1500yds without stopping then you are way ahead of the game. Don't worry so much about time and pace and instead work on good form and making the swim feel as easy as possible. Speed will come with time in the water.


I think your math is wrong, 27:34 should be a 1:41/100 yds pace. Even if we take the minute for the run to transition out of the time, the pace is 1:37...
2013-06-27 8:53 AM
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My 15 year old son ran his first Oly this year....out of the water first in 18:20.  Last weekend he ran a Jr. Elite race with a 750 swim....out of the water 15th or so in 10:14, but only about 25 seconds off the lead.  It's all relative to the race you are in, the other swimmers, and the course you are swimming.

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2013-06-27 9:00 AM
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Originally posted by sebaf74

Originally posted by clemson05

I would say the question is a little too ambiguous to answer, but I will give it a shot anyway.

If you are a completely new simmer as many adult beginner triathletes are then 2:00/100 yd is probably a good pace to start. There are plenty of people that swim slower than this and still have very good overall times.

I would say the average AG swimmer that has been competing in triathlon for a few years or more and finishes MOP would swim around a 1:40 - 1:45/100 pace. This will not put you in the "elite" category by any means but is respectable and will get you on the bike with the crowd.

Strong swimmers are generally going to swim in the 1:30/100 range or faster. If you are swimming faster than a 1:30 pace then you will generally be top 10% or so out of the water for an AG swimmer.

Depending on the race, you may have some "super swimmers" that show up and compete. These people usually race in the open divisions and I have seen some crazy fast times even locally. For instance, I did a local Oly a few weeks ago. I grew up a swimmer so my swim times are generally quick enough to get me in the FOP. My swim time was 27:34 (about a 1:27/100) and this included about a 1 minute run to transition. This time put me roughly in the top 10% of people out of the water. However, there were a few "super swimmers" in the group including a guy who's swim split was 19:38 including the run to transition. This was a freakishly fast time!

With all of that said, if you really are new to swimming and can do 1500yds without stopping then you are way ahead of the game. Don't worry so much about time and pace and instead work on good form and making the swim feel as easy as possible. Speed will come with time in the water.


I think your math is wrong, 27:34 should be a 1:41/100 yds pace. Even if we take the minute for the run to transition out of the time, the pace is 1:37...


OOPS! You would be correct. I forgot a few pieces of important information. The swim course itself measured a little long and the run added distance to that. I wore my Garmin 910x and my total distance was 1894 yards. Thus my pace was a 1:27/100.

This answer may also account for some of the variances in times listed above. Many of the open water 1500 swims are very inaccurate when measured. If the 16' 1500 mentioned above was really a full 1500 meter swim done in 16' then that is just over a 1:00/100. It is possible but you are getting into olympic qualfying standards at this point.
2013-06-27 9:05 AM
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Originally posted by Left Brain

My 15 year old son ran his first Oly this year....out of the water first in 18:20.  Last weekend he ran a Jr. Elite race with a 750 swim....out of the water 15th or so in 10:14, but only about 25 seconds off the lead.  It's all relative to the race you are in, the other swimmers, and the course you are swimming.


Rough conditions on the swim?

Shane


2013-06-27 9:12 AM
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Originally posted by Left Brain My 15 year old son ran his first Oly this year....out of the water first in 18:20.  Last weekend he ran a Jr. Elite race with a 750 swim....out of the water 15th or so in 10:14, but only about 25 seconds off the lead.  It's all relative to the race you are in, the other swimmers, and the course you are swimming.
Rough conditions on the swim? Shane

Not nearly as bad as Richmond, but I think, based on the 375M times from the Youth race, and the times from 750M Jr. race, that the course was just a bit long.  It was a funny deal......sun came out.....Youth Boys and girls and Jr. girls were all wetsuit swims For the  Jr. boys the water got to 69 so no wetsuits. 

2013-06-27 9:15 AM
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Originally posted by Left Brain

Not nearly as bad as Richmond, but I think, based on the 375M times from the Youth race, and the times from 750M Jr. race, that the course was just a bit long.  It was a funny deal......sun came out.....Youth Boys and girls and Jr. girls were all wetsuit swims For the  Jr. boys the water got to 69 so no wetsuits.


Figured it must have been a little long or lots of current/chop. Great for him to be right behind the lead pack - fast transitions, small group willing to bridge and he's right there!

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2013-06-27 9:23 AM
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If it's for an upcoming race for you just look at the times from the previous year. If it's just to get better swimming then what's fast for you is diferent then what's fast for someone else and depends greatly on your experience. If you really need a time to gage your inprovement I would say around 35 mins but that's kind of an arbitrary time.
Unless you are going for podium in your AG or overall then not being gassed after the swim is more important. I come out of the water anywhere from 5 - 20 typically and have never come close to placing in my AG. Run and bike are more important. As it's usually noted you can't win in it in the swim.

Now if you feel the need let the back door brag replies begin..... although please note I did not give any times and was trying to make a point so be kind
2013-06-27 9:23 AM
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As a beginning swimmer (just learned last Oct), i got my time down to about 1:50/100 yards in a pool. I just did my 1st OLY distance this past weekend and avg 2:04/100 yards in my 1st OWS. I attribute that to poor sighting and not swimming a straight line. Noticed myself way off course a handful of times. Median swim time was around 2:00/100 yards for that event.
2013-06-27 9:42 AM
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If it's for an upcoming race for you just look at the times from the previous year. If it's just to get better swimming then what's fast for you is diferent then what's fast for someone else and depends greatly on your experience. If you really need a time to gage your inprovement I would say around 35 mins but that's kind of an arbitrary time.
Unless you are going for podium in your AG or overall then not being gassed after the swim is more important. I come out of the water anywhere from 5 - 20 typically and have never come close to placing in my AG. Run and bike are more important. As it's usually noted you can't win in it in the swim.

Now if you feel the need let the back door brag replies begin..... although please note I did not give any times and was trying to make a point so be kind

Not sure if anyone is trying to back door brag, but nearly just letting the OP know where times fall in regards to races they have done..


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As a beginning swimmer (just learned last Oct), i got my time down to about 1:50/100 yards in a pool. I just did my 1st OLY distance this past weekend and avg 2:04/100 yards in my 1st OWS. I attribute that to poor sighting and not swimming a straight line. Noticed myself way off course a handful of times. Median swim time was around 2:00/100 yards for that event.


Beau makes a great point, OWS is a completely different animal from being in a pool. Far harder to swim a straight line (I know this well), no pushing off the wall at regular intervals, you have to deal with various weather conditions, and several other swimmers getting in your personal space. Each of these figures into a race and I can tell you that it is these variables that will govern my speed in a race than my swimming ability. I am at a 1:10-1:15 pace in a 500 yd swim in the pool, more like 1:30 in an OWS but this has gone up to nearly 1:50 in some races.
2013-06-27 9:50 AM
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Originally posted by MLPFS If it's for an upcoming race for you just look at the times from the previous year. If it's just to get better swimming then what's fast for you is diferent then what's fast for someone else and depends greatly on your experience. If you really need a time to gage your inprovement I would say around 35 mins but that's kind of an arbitrary time. Unless you are going for podium in your AG or overall then not being gassed after the swim is more important. I come out of the water anywhere from 5 - 20 typically and have never come close to placing in my AG. Run and bike are more important. As it's usually noted you can't win in it in the swim. Now if you feel the need let the back door brag replies begin..... although please note I did not give any times and was trying to make a point so be kind

As you work on your swim and try to advance in your AG (if that is your goal), don't ever be fooled by the idea that you can't win a triathlon with the swim.  That comment usually comes from people who don't win. (no offense to MLPFS, it's certainly a line that gets used ALOT).  The fact is, you can't win a triathlon with a bad swim anymore.....there may have been a day when that was more true, but those days are gone.  Anymore, in any race of significance you can't win a triathlon with even a mediocre swim.

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I was only referring to my post and I was kidding since sometimes"back door brag" starts getting thrown around which most times I think is kind of funny.
2013-06-27 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by MLPFS

I was only referring to my post and I was kidding since sometimes"back door brag" starts getting thrown around which most times I think is kind of funny.

Sorry about that, I miss understood you on that one.. I through my time out there in one of the earlier post and it was by no means a back door brag... Not even worthy of one for that matter..
Sorry about that..
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