The refs give the Saints a win

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Subject: RE: The refs give the Saints a win

Originally posted by bradword

The pussification of football is getting old. A turn over doesn't happen and a 15 yard penalty after a clean hit. Sad. How long till two hand touch on the QB in the NFL?

Someone should intentionally play 2 hand tag when in garbage time to show a level of protest. That was terrible.

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Subject: RE: The refs give the Saints a win

Originally posted by bradword

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/11/ahmad-brooks-drew-brees-gif/

I take issue with a quote in that article. "It could be called both ways, but with the way the NFL has committed to protecting the quarterback, it shouldn’t surprise anyone that it was flagged." It is only non-running franchise quarterbacks who are protected.

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The NFL is starting to feel like the NBA. There is such little talent difference between most teams that many games come down to who wins the coin flip on a handful of key penalties and plays. Pass interference and holding calls can be made on almost every play so the games seem to be often decided on the arbitrary times they are or are not called.

Of course, I am going on hour 7 of football today so it isn't like the NFL is losing money on it.

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Subject: RE: The refs give the Saints a win

Meh, you (average fan) see it one way, the refs and the guys in the booth (who are well-versed in the interpretation of the current rules) see it another. So, we'll take the gift.

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Homer. :-)

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Subject: RE: The refs give the Saints a win

Originally posted by the bear

Meh, you (average fan) see it one way, the refs and the guys in the booth (who are well-versed in the interpretation of the current rules) see it another. So, we'll take the gift.

I'm not sure that Troy Aikman is well versed in anything other than being concussed.

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Subject: RE: The refs give the Saints a win

Originally posted by uclamatt2007

Originally posted by the bear

Meh, you (average fan) see it one way, the refs and the guys in the booth (who are well-versed in the interpretation of the current rules) see it another. So, we'll take the gift.

I'm not sure that Troy Aikman is well versed in anything other than being concussed.

You see THAT one way, CBS sees it another.

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Subject: RE: The refs give the Saints a win

Originally posted by the bear

Originally posted by uclamatt2007

Originally posted by the bear

Meh, you (average fan) see it one way, the refs and the guys in the booth (who are well-versed in the interpretation of the current rules) see it another. So, we'll take the gift.

I'm not sure that Troy Aikman is well versed in anything other than being concussed.

You see THAT one way, CBS sees it another.

CBS might agree, considering that Aikman works for FOX.

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Oh, yeah. I'm suffering from the same 9-1/2 hours of football overexposure you are.

My point is that sports fans opinions are more plentiful and less meaningful than those of normal people, It matters little if you think the refs made a bad call or that Aikman is a tool, The ones that matter have made a different determination based on their much more knowledgeable view.

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Originally posted by the bear

Oh, yeah. I'm suffering from the same 9-1/2 hours of football overexposure you are.

My point is that sports fans opinions are more plentiful and less meaningful than those of normal people, It matters little if you think the refs made a bad call or that Aikman is a tool, The ones that matter have made a different determination based on their much more knowledgeable view.

Actually, none of their opinions matter either.

The only view that matter is split second, usually partially obscure view of the play by the official.

Beyond that, its all hot air.

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Under the current rules, which are obviously supported based on attendance and TV ratings, it was certainly a viable call by the refs.

The first woman NFL player can't be far behind.

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Originally posted by Left Brain

Under the current rules, which are obviously supported based on attendance and TV ratings, it was certainly a viable call by the refs.

The first woman NFL player can't be far behind.

I think you missed it...that's already happened. Ray Finkle.

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Originally posted by ChineseDemocracy

Originally posted by Left Brain

Under the current rules, which are obviously supported based on attendance and TV ratings, it was certainly a viable call by the refs.

The first woman NFL player can't be far behind.

I think you missed it...that's already happened. Ray Finkle.

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As a fan of a team who is penalized on a weekly basis for incorrect calls, I think that hit was borderline high. You can't hit a QB above the shoulders and in real time it looks like his neck is being destroyed.

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Subject: RE: The refs give the Saints a win

Originally posted by uclamatt2007 The NFL is starting to feel like the NBA. There is such little talent difference between most teams that many games come down to who wins the coin flip on a handful of key penalties and plays. Pass interference and holding calls can be made on almost every play so the games seem to be often decided on the arbitrary times they are or are not called. Of course, I am going on hour 7 of football today so it isn't like the NFL is losing money on it.

You just described why I have pretty much lost all interest in the NFL. I occasionally watch games, but they're just not fun for me anymore. College has it's issues as well, but I get so much more enjoyment out of watching the games.

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Subject: RE: The refs give the Saints a win

Originally posted by tuwood

Originally posted by uclamatt2007 The NFL is starting to feel like the NBA. There is such little talent difference between most teams that many games come down to who wins the coin flip on a handful of key penalties and plays. Pass interference and holding calls can be made on almost every play so the games seem to be often decided on the arbitrary times they are or are not called. Of course, I am going on hour 7 of football today so it isn't like the NFL is losing money on it.

You just described why I have pretty much lost all interest in the NFL. I occasionally watch games, but they're just not fun for me anymore. College has it's issues as well, but I get so much more enjoyment out of watching the games.

Being Nebraska fans, you and I should have more issues with college football than NFL football. As in, I have an issue with the lack of a rule that gives Nebraska a 21-point lead before the game starts due to the fact that they're just going to give the other team 21 points in turnovers every game. Or something similar. Why haven't they made that rule yet? Total bunk.

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Originally posted by mr2tony

Originally posted by tuwood

Originally posted by uclamatt2007 The NFL is starting to feel like the NBA. There is such little talent difference between most teams that many games come down to who wins the coin flip on a handful of key penalties and plays. Pass interference and holding calls can be made on almost every play so the games seem to be often decided on the arbitrary times they are or are not called. Of course, I am going on hour 7 of football today so it isn't like the NFL is losing money on it.

You just described why I have pretty much lost all interest in the NFL. I occasionally watch games, but they're just not fun for me anymore. College has it's issues as well, but I get so much more enjoyment out of watching the games.

Being Nebraska fans, you and I should have more issues with college football than NFL football. As in, I have an issue with the lack of a rule that gives Nebraska a 21-point lead before the game starts due to the fact that they're just going to give the other team 21 points in turnovers every game. Or something similar. Why haven't they made that rule yet? Total bunk.

They already get to play in the Big 10. How much more help can they expect to get?

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Subject: RE: The refs give the Saints a win

Originally posted by mr2tony

Originally posted by tuwood

Originally posted by uclamatt2007 The NFL is starting to feel like the NBA. There is such little talent difference between most teams that many games come down to who wins the coin flip on a handful of key penalties and plays. Pass interference and holding calls can be made on almost every play so the games seem to be often decided on the arbitrary times they are or are not called. Of course, I am going on hour 7 of football today so it isn't like the NFL is losing money on it.

You just described why I have pretty much lost all interest in the NFL. I occasionally watch games, but they're just not fun for me anymore. College has it's issues as well, but I get so much more enjoyment out of watching the games.

Being Nebraska fans, you and I should have more issues with college football than NFL football. As in, I have an issue with the lack of a rule that gives Nebraska a 21-point lead before the game starts due to the fact that they're just going to give the other team 21 points in turnovers every game. Or something similar. Why haven't they made that rule yet? Total bunk.

But Romo didn't throw an interception this week.....so there's that.

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Subject: RE: The refs give the Saints a win

Originally posted by JoshR As a fan of a team who is penalized on a weekly basis for incorrect calls, I think that hit was borderline high. You can't hit a QB above the shoulders and in real time it looks like his neck is being destroyed.

But, just because the lineman that hit the QB in the chest with his arm that is larger and stronger than the QB's leg, is not the problem or error of the lineman. I understand that we don't want players hurt because of bad or intentional illegal hits. That hit was neither.

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Subject: RE: The refs give the Saints a win

Originally posted by flip18436572

Originally posted by JoshR As a fan of a team who is penalized on a weekly basis for incorrect calls, I think that hit was borderline high. You can't hit a QB above the shoulders and in real time it looks like his neck is being destroyed.

But, just because the lineman that hit the QB in the chest with his arm that is larger and stronger than the QB's leg, is not the problem or error of the lineman. I understand that we don't want players hurt because of bad or intentional illegal hits. That hit was neither.

If we are getting all technical, Brooks' arm does make contact with Brees' helmet. I would count that as hitting the head. I don't agree with the call, but I can see how it is technically correct. These crap calls happen all the time and I believe all 15 yd penalties should be reviewable.

Bringing out my own gripes, look at the sack of Matt Ryan last week by Michael Bennett. Bennett gets pushed to the ground at Ryan's feet and grabs his ankles, tripping him up. This is called as hitting the QB below the knees, aka the Brady rule. Instead of a sack it's a 15 yd penalty. Or how about the TB vs Sea game where Earl Thomas plays textbook coverage and get's the INT. Ref's throw a flag for pass interference and instead of a turnover, the buc's score a play or two later. Pete Carroll sent it into the league for review and they league determined that there was no pass interference. Even just yesterday in the Min vs Sea game, Richard Sherman was called for PI on a slight jersey grab that landed about 20 yds beyond the receiver. Usain Bolt couldn't have caught that one if he had been unimpeded.

Edited by JoshR 2013-11-18 11:04 AM

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You want to see the ultimate in awful penalties? Check this out. SD's Keenan Allen is called for offensive PI on this.

http://images.ftw.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Untitled-...

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No team loses a game on one bad call!

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Subject: RE: The refs give the Saints a win

Originally posted by JoshR

You want to see the ultimate in awful penalties? Check this out. SD's Keenan Allen is called for offensive PI on this.

http://images.ftw.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Untitled-...

This was ruled a safety on an intentional grounding call. It is almost as bad.

https://vine.co/v/hIz2KeiWuFw

Edited by uclamatt2007 2013-11-18 11:17 AM

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