Anchorman 2

Apparently Fox covered Beiber instead of Obama's Sex Assualt speach.

http://mediamattersforamerica.tumblr.com/post/74297985404/justin-bieber-and-cable-news-priorities 

Working on verifying that. 

Did you mean the "Gosh, our ratings are way down in a congressional election year, so let's shift the focus off of the obamacare debacle and try to solidify the women's vote speech?"

I hear this a lot.  I couldn't even tell you one fact about Justin Beiber, so I agree this is pretty ridiculous. 

Back to your comment........tell me how your life has changed because of all of these civil liberties that are apparently being stripped from us.  I'm asking because I hear this all the time but if it's true it has not affected my life, or the life of my family, one bit.  So.....with that being said, I'm trying to figure out if it's even true.  I know it's a popular opinion.....but what is it based on?  Is there something you used to be able to do that you can't do anymore?  Is there some part of your life that has been affected by this "erosion"? 

I'd like to call bullchit on the whole idea, but maybe I'm missing something so I'm keeping an open mind. Help me be worried, because I don't think there is anything "wrong with us" other then the fact that there may be an alarming number of people who give a rats arse about Justin Beiber..

In the good old days, you might be able to egg Justin Bieber's house and get away with it, but now with all the drones, cctv cameras, cell phone signal tracking, and license plate scanning going on, there's no way you could pull it off.  See, our civil liberties are severely restricted now !!!

Oh......so now you have to be a bit creative and because of that our civil liberties are being eroded?   

Wait, how do you apply National debt to civil liberty erosion?  Again, I hear it alot, but you can't just say it and make it so.  I'm still trying to figure out what I can't do today that I used to be able to do.....some liberty or freedon that I no longer have.  I thihnk it's a fair question as well, but I still don't have an answer.  I do agree that our National debt needs to be worked on.....but it doesn't affect my freedom or civil liberties thatI can tell.

I would probably agree with that.....but wouldn't that be the natural evolution of any society where the population continues to expand?  At least uhntil something happens to lessen the population.....which also has a tipping point, right?

That's right, but at some point there really is "for the good of society" to think about.....at least there is for me.  In my mind,if more people had that attitude there'd be less need for govt. instrusion at all.....but the majority of people are pretty self-centered.

Anyway, nothing you've givenme here has me changing my mind regarding the idea that the "erosion of liberties" is all just a bunchy of made up whatever that doesn't affect my life in the least bit.....and I have to say I don't see it affecting many others either....but it sounds good.

Hmmm.....if you think that was an EROSION of liberties you should have seen policing in the 60's when I listened to the stories my dad and granjdpa told....or in the 80's when I started. 

So.....if the "changes have not affected me or even most of us directly" then exactly what are we talking about here?  I would argue that our liberties and freedoms have not been eroded at all, but we've sure been led to believe they have.....I still say it's some made up garbage.

But....how are my civil liberties being eroded?

...ummm because everyone looking out for themselves is generally bad for those around them. I can make a billion dollars mining but it destroys all of the rivers around my mine. Those rivers are fished by men trying to make a living. Now I have destroyed that. How is that the most efficient way to maximize the good of society? In fast, it is the worst way to.

Global warming my friend.

Which is why we need regulation. If people simply acted in their own best interest it would not be good for society.

So are you advocating more regulation then?