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Subject: Overtraining or dodgy heart rate monitor - lower than usual exercise heart rate
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I've been seeing some lower than usual heart rate readings for my efforts during training that has me concerned it may be an overtraining symptom. Overall at moderate intensity it's around 10-15bpm too low and at high intensity as much as 25bpm. This is on a standard Garmin Heart Rate monitor on both the 800 and 910xt devices.

It all appears very strange because I'm not noticing it on other indicators which leads me to question the accuracy of the heart rate monitor even though it isn't showing anything erratic. For starters my performance hasn't dropped while other signs such as fatigue and irritable thought patterns aren't really there. The only other indicator to back up the findings is my resting heart rate has dropped fairly significantly on a few mornings. In fact I had a couple of rest days and that seemed to fix up the resting heart rate issue but the low exercise heart rate has still persisted.

In terms of the training program I've only been going for about 5 months so for sure it's not at the extreme level you normally associate with overtraining. Nonetheless I do still feel I am pushing what my body can handle pretty hard, particularly in terms of being able to have your speed work, endurance work and easier efforts all crammed into each week.


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Subject: RE: Overtraining or dodgy heart rate monitor - lower than usual exercise heart rate
Could this simply be increasing fitness? Five months is certainly long enough to see a gradual drop in both resting heart rate and exercise heart rate at the same level of intensity/perceived exertion. Of course it's not going to be an across the board, every day drop, but if on average it is lower, my guess is that it is fitness-related.

If not, and it's associated on those days with going slower, feeling tired, etc. then could be a fatigue issue. In that case the solution is obvious--back off a little; take regular rest days.

Another possibility is that something random is going on that you're not aware of. In particular, temperature, hydration, and caffeine intake (or lack thereof) can affect heart rate, definitely as much as the difference you describe. I usually train in pretty extreme heat/humidity in Vietnam; on the rare cool morning there, or at home in Oregon, my HR will easily be 10-20 beats lower at the same pace. Also, if you normally have coffee before a morning workout and you didn't on some days, that could make your exercise HR lower than usual--probably not a matter of 10-25 BPM though, unless you're really sensitive to the stuff. Dehydration can also jack up HR. Maybe on the low HR days, you are better hydrated? It would make a difference of 10-25 BPM in my case over a longer workout (2 hours plus) when training in the tropics; don't know about elsewhere.

ETA If it were a HR monitor issue it probably wouldn't be consistent across two monitors. When there's an issue, it typically involves random spikes and dips in heart rate which aren't related to changes in workout intensity or feelings of well-being. For example, when one of my old monitors was on the blink (dying sensor battery), it would sometimes spike to 212 (when I'd never gotten over 190 before, and that was toward the end of a hard tempo run in 100+ degree heat when I was almost hit by a motorbike!) and then declare me clinically dead for up to 5 minutes (HR=0). All the while I'm just tooling along at a moderate pace feeling perfectly fine. Those issues can be caused by electrical interference (from high-tension lines, electronics on people passing by, or even static from quick-dry shirts), battery problems, etc.

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Subject: RE: Overtraining or dodgy heart rate monitor - lower than usual exercise heart rate
Sounds to me like you're getting fit. Since you're using garmin devices, check your trending on garminconnect to see your heart rate has been trending downward over the last five months. I'd be willing to bet it has. . If you feel it's overtraining, take four days off and see if things change. From the info you've provided, it sounds like your aerobic base is improving. And as always, check with your doc if you still feel uneasy about it..

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