Lincoln on Pelosi
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() "Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled or hanged." Abraham Lincoln
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() With all things considered does anyone think her actions are saving American Serviceman lives?
I do not. And I think she knows it. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Lincoln on Republicans: "Public sentiment is everything. With public sentiment, nothing can fail; without it nothing can succeed." |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Lincoln on "staying the course": "The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise with the occasion. As our case is new, so we must think anew, and act anew. We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country." |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Lincoln on warmongering presidents: "Allow the president to invade a neighboring nation, whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such a purpose - and you allow him to make war at pleasure." |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Lincoln on, ostensibly, the importance of dialogue over force: "Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?" |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Lincoln on our current president? "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Lincoln on the Patriot Act" "Don't interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties." |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Lincoln on the importance of getting things right BEFORE you take action: "Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe." |
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Giver ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Rogillio - 2007-04-18 9:12 AM "Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled or hanged." Abraham Lincoln Isn't it the President who refuses to sign the spending bill, thereby taking bullets out of the guns of our boys? |
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![]() | ![]() FishrCutB8 - Lincoln on the Patriot Act" "Don't interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties." "Allow the president to invade a neighboring nation, whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such a purpose - and you allow him to make war at pleasure." Lincoln is by far my favorite president... but... Didn't he suspend the writ of habeas corpus? also... Wasn't the confederacy a legal entity under the constitution? Therefore, Lincoln actually did invade a foreign nation. (although not to repel an invasion) Personally, I'm glad he did it. His quotes don't always line up with the reality of his life. Edited by dontracy 2007-04-18 9:02 AM |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Great quote, too bad Lincoln never said it...something proved over 8 months ago. http://www.factcheck.org/article415.html |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() dgunthert - 2007-04-18 9:02 AM Great quote, too bad Lincoln never said it...something proved over 8 months ago. http://www.factcheck.org/article415.html
"Aww, what does he know, he's a ignorant old man." - O Brother Edited by Rogillio 2007-04-18 9:08 AM |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Rogillio - 2007-04-18 9:07 AM "Aww, what does he know, he's a ignorant old man." - O Brother How, exactly, does that address the fact that your original post was a complete falsehood? Edited by dgunthert 2007-04-18 1:09 PM |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() dgunthert - 2007-04-18 1:08 PM Rogillio - 2007-04-18 9:07 AM How, exactly, does that address the fact that your original post was a complete falsehood?"Aww, what does he know, he's a ignorant old man." - O Brother
Evidently you're not familiar with the movie scene. Let me explain….
Clooney is going on about how the blind railroad man had the capability to see into the future. When Clooney's partners said that the old man said there was no gold, Clooney changed his tune and said the guy was an ignorant old man.
It was an attempt to be humorous at my own expense having been duped…but I guess you had to see the movie to get the joke. Then again, maybe you did see the movie but no one got my joke. I've always has a very singular sense of humor….
~Mike |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() nah it's just that humor is not a good subsititute for humility.... |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() possum - 2007-04-18 1:37 PM nah it's just that humor is not a good subsititute for humility....
Well it's more than most people do in admitting they were duped. Besides, I once won an award for being humble…but when I went down to accept the award, they rescinded it!
~Mike |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() run4yrlif - 2007-04-18 7:48 AM Rogillio - 2007-04-18 9:12 AM "Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled or hanged." Abraham Lincoln Isn't it the President who refuses to sign the spending bill, thereby taking bullets out of the guns of our boys? When said spending bill almost exactly repeats the mistakes of 30 years ago by putting exact dates on withdrawl then I'd say the ones who put the bill together are the ones screwin' the pooch... bts |
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Giver ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Brett - 2007-04-18 3:01 PM run4yrlif - 2007-04-18 7:48 AM Rogillio - 2007-04-18 9:12 AM "Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled or hanged." Abraham Lincoln Isn't it the President who refuses to sign the spending bill, thereby taking bullets out of the guns of our boys? When said spending bill almost exactly repeats the mistakes of 30 years ago by putting exact dates on withdrawl then I'd say the ones who put the bill together are the ones screwin' the pooch... bts The dates are non-binding. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() run4yrlif - 2007-04-18 2:06 PM Brett - 2007-04-18 3:01 PM run4yrlif - 2007-04-18 7:48 AM Rogillio - 2007-04-18 9:12 AM "Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled or hanged." Abraham Lincoln Isn't it the President who refuses to sign the spending bill, thereby taking bullets out of the guns of our boys? When said spending bill almost exactly repeats the mistakes of 30 years ago by putting exact dates on withdrawl then I'd say the ones who put the bill together are the ones screwin' the pooch... bts The dates are non-binding.
Jim, What gives? No one took the bait so you took it yourself? :-) The idea of using our troops' welfare to push pork is despicable and there ain't no way to spin that. Oops, my bad. I thought you were replying to your own post. Sorry 'bout that. ~Mike Edited by Rogillio 2007-04-18 2:25 PM |
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Giver ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Rogillio - 2007-04-18 3:21 PM Jim, What gives? No one took the bait so you took it yourself? :-) The idea of using our troops' welfare to push pork is despicable and there ain't no way to spin that. ~Mike Pretty much. The pork issue won't fly, since the President has demonstrated over and over again that he's not above signing porky bills (one veto in his 7 years in office). But that being said, without the pork, the Prez would have no bill to sign at all. Pelosi had to use incentives to get the many democratic representatives who wanted nothing of a spending bill at all--those that just want the troops out now, to sign off onthe bill. So feel free to take your issues to those individual representatives, but it's not warranted with Pelosi. She gave the President a spending bill that he otherwise wouldn't have gotten. If he wants to veto it, that's fine. But with a non-binding date, it's only his hard-headedness that will be keeping money from the troops. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() run4yrlif - 2007-04-18 2:27 PM Rogillio - 2007-04-18 3:21 PM Jim, What gives? No one took the bait so you took it yourself? :-) The idea of using our troops' welfare to push pork is despicable and there ain't no way to spin that. ~Mike Pretty much. The pork issue won't fly, since the President has demonstrated over and over again that he's not above signing porky bills (one veto in his 7 years in office). But that being said, without the pork, the Prez would have no bill to sign at all. Pelosi had to use incentives to get the many democratic representatives who wanted nothing of a spending bill at all--those that just want the troops out now, to sign off onthe bill. So feel free to take your issues to those individual representatives, but it's not warranted with Pelosi. She gave the President a spending bill that he otherwise wouldn't have gotten. If he wants to veto it, that's fine. But with a non-binding date, it's only his hard-headedness that will be keeping money from the troops.
Actually the original jab at Pelosi was directed at her negotiations with the Syrains against the State Department's advise. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Rogillio - 2007-04-18 1:21 PM The idea of using our troops' welfare to push pork is despicable and there ain't no way to spin that. Oops, my bad. I thought you were replying to your own post. Sorry 'bout that. ~Mike How do you see it as endangering our troops welfare? |
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