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2009-06-11 8:45 AM
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dalessit - 2009-06-11 7:15 AM
TrevorC - 2009-06-11 8:47 AM Well, got home yesterday and look at the bike....There is only 1 water bottle cage, with no way to plug another one on it.
The bottem stem or whatever its called is not round so couldnt put one on there if i wanted to.


LOL, is that picture from yesterday with all the snow?

Put an aerobottle on the front + the bottle on the frame = plenty of water for Olympic.

For 1/2 and more you could put an x-lab or similar rear bottle ejector on the seat/post.  Though most bigger events have bottle exchanges so you don't have to always bring all of your own liquids.

Nonono.... that picture was from a few months ago. I've got fancy new tires on her since then. Dandruff is long gone Doug( well I hope it is June). 
But yes, I think I am going to buck up and throw an aero bottle on it. Knowing me, if I threw a double cage behind the seat, I'd loose a bottle every ride!


2009-06-11 8:45 AM
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dalessit - 2009-06-11 8:15 AM
TrevorC - 2009-06-11 8:47 AM Well, got home yesterday and look at the bike....There is only 1 water bottle cage, with no way to plug another one on it.
The bottem stem or whatever its called is not round so couldnt put one on there if i wanted to.


LOL, is that picture from yesterday with all the snow?

Put an aerobottle on the front + the bottle on the frame = plenty of water for Olympic.

For 1/2 and more you could put an x-lab or similar rear bottle ejector on the seat/post.  Though most bigger events have bottle exchanges so you don't have to always bring all of your own liquids.



am i missing something here....all this talk about snow and how cold it is up there and he's got what appears to be an insulated water bottle on there.
2009-06-11 8:46 AM
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You guys kick a$$ at Boise, can't wait to read the race reports.

I was going to do a TT this weekend but realized it was a 2 hr drive that goes the same route people take to the beach so probably a 3-4 hr drive each way and since I just finished driving 20+ hrs last week not interested in more driving.
2009-06-11 8:48 AM
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TrevorC - 2009-06-11 9:45 AM
dalessit - 2009-06-11 7:15 AM
TrevorC - 2009-06-11 8:47 AM Well, got home yesterday and look at the bike....There is only 1 water bottle cage, with no way to plug another one on it.
The bottem stem or whatever its called is not round so couldnt put one on there if i wanted to.


LOL, is that picture from yesterday with all the snow?

Put an aerobottle on the front + the bottle on the frame = plenty of water for Olympic.

For 1/2 and more you could put an x-lab or similar rear bottle ejector on the seat/post.  Though most bigger events have bottle exchanges so you don't have to always bring all of your own liquids.

Nonono.... that picture was from a few months ago. I've got fancy new tires on her since then. Dandruff is long gone Doug( well I hope it is June). 
But yes, I think I am going to buck up and throw an aero bottle on it. Knowing me, if I threw a double cage behind the seat, I'd loose a bottle every ride!


Yeah thats why I called them bottle ejectors.

For anything less than olympic I just use a single water bottle on the frame.  Only bring out the aero for Olympics.  On my road bike I use 2 bottles on the frame for longer rides.
2009-06-11 8:55 AM
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Just wanted to say "Good Luck" everyone who is racing this weekend!  Don't know if I'll be around much (like I post a lot anywayTongue out) - half day at work tomorrow and probably won't be around the computer much over the weekend.  Looking forward to some race reports on Monday!
2009-06-11 8:58 AM
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Sorry I've been MIA for this last week.  I've missed so many pages that I'll never catch up... so to those racing this weekend:

Race smart and rock it hard!


2009-06-11 9:04 AM
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fattyfatfat - 2009-06-10 5:52 PM
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SSMinnow - 2009-06-10 11:52 AM
swbkrun - 2009-06-10 11:39 AM

"Normal" by my standards.  I would rather carry less water (weight) and load up these, then grab water if/when neeeded.  That is usually what I take on my training rides, so I stick with what I train with (for the most part).  There have been races where stuff just doesn't go well and you need to make the necessary changes.  I have dropped nutrition before and have to make due with what is on the course.  Your ability to adapt will help you in the long run.  Luckily I don't have too sensitive of a stomach (eat my words right.. 1/2 Iron this weekend...Something is going to happen  now!!!) and can make do out on the course....



Look out, dumb question ahead.....do you stop at these aid stations?  I always hear about these "mixing this and mixing that" stories during the race, but I never quite understand how it happens.   I cannot imagine doing it on the fly.

To answer your question, I have not mixed gels and H20, but it is on my list of things to try.   In the link Tracy provided, there was a discussion of using Carb Pro and Nunn's together.  I LOVE CarbPro because it settles well, but I HATE Nunn's.  I am trying to figure out the best way to ingest the electrolytes.  I would really like to slam a few Endurolytes and be done with it, but it takes time for them to digest and it probably isn't enough, even given my size.  On top of all that, I am supposed to figure out how to add protein into this conncoction. Ugh.  Too complicated.  I want one thing in one bottle.

Thanks for asking that question Suzy, I'm kind of baffled as to how it all works!  So I just got my Infinit Special Formula and used it on my trainer ride this morning.  I might add a little bit of cyto to it for flavor.  But I was thinking of using my aerodrink for 2 scoops = 232 cal and a bottle on the downtube with another 2 scoops =232 cal and then a bottle of water in my other holder which I can refill along the way.  I just don't think I can drink it if it's too concentrated. 

Then two bags of clif shots in my fuel box.  And a couple of gels in my tri shirt.  It seems like a lot of calories for 56 miles, but I did finish my sport drink for the olympic this past weekend along with one bag of clif shots and half of a bottle of water.  I'm going to try it out on a long ride this weekend and will let you know how it goes.  As per Steve's advice I think I'll switch to just water about 30 min before the end to see how my stomach feels and run about 15 minutes. 



LOL!  My 300 cal/hr doesn't seem like much after reading this.  But totally irrelevant because it works for you! I met a guy the other night who claims to put down 400 an hour in a 1/2...   puke


Yeah i should probably get better about nutrition, but I have been doing the same thing the whole time and haven't had any energy issues in races so far.

Pre-Race - I drink a lot of water every day so always pretty well hydrated.
Race Morning - Peanut Butter on toast/bagel/whatever bread is available., Powerbar all on the way to the race.  Gel before the swim.
During the race - I carry 2 bottles of water on the bike usually drink both bottles depending on the temp.
Before I get off the bike I eat a gel.
During the run - I drink water at aid stations.

So pretty much no calories during the race.
2009-06-11 9:16 AM
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ashort33 - 2009-06-11 8:36 AM

Havin'Fun - 2009-06-11 8:14 AM

Who's racing this weekend?

so far :
Steve - Boise
Roni -Boise
Suzy - duathlon

Anyone else???????????

Andy - Mini Sprint



Barry - Oly ... first tri (there will be no try, only DO)
2009-06-11 9:19 AM
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Barry Good luck at the West Point Lake Triathlon! Lookin forward to the RR.

Doug
2009-06-11 9:56 AM
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So the aqualite or the aquacell?
2009-06-11 10:01 AM
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CAUTION: Breakthrough swim story ahead!!!

I went to the site of my next Oly this morning with the coach I biked with over the winter.  She watched me sputter around for a while, had me do some deep breathing drills above water and then with the deadman float to calm me down.  Told me I was exhaling too little and stacking my air which was what was making me breathless and causing me to stop in a semi-panic.  I slowly exhaled my air into the water as I swam, took a breath when I needed it and did two laps, non stop.  Oh, and my siting was better because I wasn't so freaked out about getting enough air.  AMAZING.  I AM PSYCHED. 

I Live To Swim






2009-06-11 10:04 AM
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At this rate Suzy, swimming will soon be your strogest event! Congrats!
2009-06-11 10:33 AM
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SSMinnow - 2009-06-11 9:01 AM CAUTION: Breakthrough swim story ahead!!!

I went to the site of my next Oly this morning with the coach I biked with over the winter.  She watched me sputter around for a while, had me do some deep breathing drills above water and then with the deadman float to calm me down.  Told me I was exhaling too little and stacking my air which was what was making me breathless and causing me to stop in a semi-panic.  I slowly exhaled my air into the water as I swam, took a breath when I needed it and did two laps, non stop.  Oh, and my siting was better because I wasn't so freaked out about getting enough air.  AMAZING.  I AM PSYCHED. 

I Live To Swim


Nice work there fish!! You're starting to live up to the Minnow now!




2009-06-11 10:40 AM
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SSMinnow - 2009-06-11 10:01 AM CAUTION: Breakthrough swim story ahead!!!

I went to the site of my next Oly this morning with the coach I biked with over the winter.  She watched me sputter around for a while, had me do some deep breathing drills above water and then with the deadman float to calm me down.  Told me I was exhaling too little and stacking my air which was what was making me breathless and causing me to stop in a semi-panic.  I slowly exhaled my air into the water as I swam, took a breath when I needed it and did two laps, non stop.  Oh, and my siting was better because I wasn't so freaked out about getting enough air.  AMAZING.  I AM PSYCHED. 

I Live To Swim




 

Great Job!  I love breakthrough moments!

2009-06-11 10:46 AM
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TrevorC - 2009-06-11 10:56 AM So the aqualite or the aquacell?


http://www.profile-design.com/products/hydration/aerodrink/


Haven't seen the aqualite before that must be a new product.

Also Bonetrager makes a new aerodrink type thing that looks kind of cool.
2009-06-11 10:52 AM
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dalessit - 2009-06-11 9:46 AM
TrevorC - 2009-06-11 10:56 AM So the aqualite or the aquacell?


http://www.profile-design.com/products/hydration/aerodrink/


Haven't seen the aqualite before that must be a new product.

Also Bonetrager makes a new aerodrink type thing that looks kind of cool.


Is the aerocell that much better? Looks like you can put 2 products in it?


2009-06-11 10:52 AM
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Suzy, I was doing the same thing, really only breathing out my nose and never using my mouth which isn't enough exhaling.  I would get pretty tired very early swimming.  Now I continuously breath out while swimming and it hasn't been an issue.
2009-06-11 10:54 AM
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TrevorC - 2009-06-11 11:52 AM
dalessit - 2009-06-11 9:46 AM
TrevorC - 2009-06-11 10:56 AM So the aqualite or the aquacell?


http://www.profile-design.com/products/hydration/aerodrink/


Haven't seen the aqualite before that must be a new product.

Also Bonetrager makes a new aerodrink type thing that looks kind of cool.


Is the aerocell that much better? Looks like you can put 2 products in it?


Yeah but that thing is huge, a friend of mine got it and and it didn't fit on her bike.  What distances are you planning on doing, I like to keep it simple personally.
2009-06-11 10:57 AM
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dalessit - 2009-06-11 9:54 AM
TrevorC - 2009-06-11 11:52 AM
dalessit - 2009-06-11 9:46 AM
TrevorC - 2009-06-11 10:56 AM So the aqualite or the aquacell?


http://www.profile-design.com/products/hydration/aerodrink/


Haven't seen the aqualite before that must be a new product.

Also Bonetrager makes a new aerodrink type thing that looks kind of cool.


Is the aerocell that much better? Looks like you can put 2 products in it?


Yeah but that thing is huge, a friend of mine got it and and it didn't fit on her bike.  What distances are you planning on doing, I like to keep it simple personally.


Just Olympic. So the single one probably makes sense then. I can throw the water in the cage, and infinit in the aero.
One day when I get tough, and do a HIM, I'll worry about then.
2009-06-11 11:28 AM
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Hey Barry - I saw the other day that Auburn is one of the best places in the country to live.
I always just thought of the university.  Surprised

Anyway, good luck this weekend!
2009-06-11 11:31 AM
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Way to go Suzy...too bad it's a duathlon this weekend!
I think you are ready to rock the swimming!  I love it


2009-06-11 12:40 PM
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Barry. Kick a$$ this weekend man!  I didn't realize this was your frist.  So I went snooping and noticed you are doing a 70.3 for your second race… AWESOME!!!!  I thought the likes of myself, Linda, and so many others were crazy for waiting until our third race LOL!!!

2009-06-11 12:44 PM
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LBS at lunch. Tony makes me spend money! Aero bottle and a garmin cadence sensor. I know the sensor is a good thing to have to have though.

So Barry...you ready?

2009-06-11 12:45 PM
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SSMinnow - 2009-06-11 11:01 AM CAUTION: Breakthrough swim story ahead!!!

I went to the site of my next Oly this morning with the coach I biked with over the winter.  She watched me sputter around for a while, had me do some deep breathing drills above water and then with the deadman float to calm me down.  Told me I was exhaling too little and stacking my air which was what was making me breathless and causing me to stop in a semi-panic.  I slowly exhaled my air into the water as I swam, took a breath when I needed it and did two laps, non stop.  Oh, and my siting was better because I wasn't so freaked out about getting enough air.  AMAZING.  I AM PSYCHED. 

I Live To Swim




 

Way to go Suzy. SOunds like you be swiming like the fishies soon.

2009-06-11 12:47 PM
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TrevorC - 2009-06-11 1:44 PM

LBS at lunch. Tony makes me spend money! Aero bottle and a garmin cadence sensor. I know the sensor is a good thing to have to have though.

So Barry...you ready?



HAHA I am still trying to figure out what to tell my wife to get me for Fathers Day, probably just a gift certificate from LBS.
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