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 2014-12-21 10:58 PM in reply to: spudone |
 Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!!I am not the fastest cyclist, but PT G3 laced into a DT Swiss with a disc cover for racing simply can't e beat for value and performance, IMO. I like the sound of the deep Zipps and expensive true discs. As i pass them..... |
| 2014-12-21 11:02 PM in reply to: Fred D |
| Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by Fred D Originally posted by marcag just received a pm from Ron. He deleted my last 2 posts, as he felt i was out of line with my tt Post in Marc's thread. I'm done here folks. Account deleted. This will be removed as well I suspect, but I was out of line for suggesting being anonymous leads to poor civility. Done with this particular site. Originally posted by Fred D I saw it come, go, come back againPosted again in the thread... hope it stays ;-) I still have no idea why you post in TT. It never goes well You oughtta stay, but need to do whatever keeps your sanity |
| 2014-12-22 2:41 AM in reply to: ChrisM |
Elite  7783      PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by ChrisM Originally posted by Fred D Originally posted by marcag just received a pm from Ron. He deleted my last 2 posts, as he felt i was out of line with my tt Post in Marc's thread. I'm done here folks. Account deleted. This will be removed as well I suspect, but I was out of line for suggesting being anonymous leads to poor civility. Done with this particular site. Originally posted by Fred D I saw it come, go, come back againPosted again in the thread... hope it stays ;-) I still have no idea why you post in TT. It never goes well You oughtta stay, but need to do whatever keeps your sanity +1, I hope you stay (just here) Fred but I don't blame you. I saw your post and I'm really surprised he had an issue with it. |
| 2014-12-22 4:46 AM in reply to: axteraa |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by ChrisM Originally posted by Fred D Originally posted by marcag just received a pm from Ron. He deleted my last 2 posts, as he felt i was out of line with my tt Post in Marc's thread. I'm done here folks. Account deleted. This will be removed as well I suspect, but I was out of line for suggesting being anonymous leads to poor civility. Done with this particular site. Originally posted by Fred D I saw it come, go, come back againPosted again in the thread... hope it stays ;-) I still have no idea why you post in TT. It never goes well You oughtta stay, but need to do whatever keeps your sanity +1, I hope you stay (just here) Fred but I don't blame you. I saw your post and I'm really surprised he had an issue with it. I hope Fred changes his mind and posts here this morning that he will continue his group. The mentor groups are what this site needs. I hope the mods apply strict rules to the people really doing the trolling |
| 2014-12-22 5:47 AM in reply to: axteraa |
Master 2621 Mechanicsburg, PA | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by axteraa James, if you are looking for a training wheel with a PT, I've got one that I will be selling as I just switched Tab over to a Power2max as well. It's an older model (pre-G3 era) either a Pro+ or SL+, I forget which - I'd have to check. Wheel is a 32 hole Mavic open pro and I have a Wheelbuilder disc cover for it as well. Thanks for the offer Arend. Sounds like a good offer, but I am just looking for the PT. I have tons of wheel sets that I can use. |
| 2014-12-22 6:04 AM in reply to: Fred D |
Master 2621 Mechanicsburg, PA | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by Fred D Originally posted by marcag just received a pm from Ron. He deleted my last 2 posts, as he felt i was out of line with my tt Post in Marc's thread. I'm done here folks. Account deleted. This will be removed as well I suspect, but I was out of line for suggesting being anonymous leads to poor civility. Done with this particular site. Originally posted by Fred D I saw it come, go, come back againPosted again in the thread... hope it stays ;-) Well I read the frist post. I saw nothing wrong but people can have such narrow minded thinking. As I read and was responding to the second. Poof! it was gone. I just do NOT get this place at times. I often here you guys post about crazy posts and trolling in TT, but never seem to find them. I have seen stuff in the past that a bit flamming. This just seem for whatever reason Fred that you are marked. Of course I don't see everything. I do have your last post, nothing wrong and you stated what you though was offensive to the forum. Which was not. Fred I sure hope you do not go! |
| 2014-12-22 6:21 AM in reply to: BrotherTri |
Master 2621 Mechanicsburg, PA | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! |
| 2014-12-22 6:33 AM in reply to: BrotherTri |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! James, Fred and Chris (since you all have CTs) Want to try something fun ? Have you ever tried a MAP test. You basically start at say 200w and every minute increase by 25w until failure. The average power of your last minute is your Maximum aerobic power In theory your 5' power should be about 90% of this. Your FTP 72-75% of this. I suspect it overstates FTP for many of us. Try it, it's fun. |
| 2014-12-22 6:34 AM in reply to: BrotherTri |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by BrotherTri I may need to open a Facebook account to keep up with everyone. I hate FB. I'm not a big FB fan. Not enough separation of family life, business, triathlon..... |
| 2014-12-22 7:50 AM in reply to: marcag |
Master 2621 Mechanicsburg, PA | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by marcag James, Fred and Chris (since you all have CTs) Want to try something fun ? Have you ever tried a MAP test. You basically start at say 200w and every minute increase by 25w until failure. The average power of your last minute is your Maximum aerobic power In theory your 5' power should be about 90% of this. Your FTP 72-75% of this. I suspect it overstates FTP for many of us. Try it, it's fun. Sounds fun.  I can do it this Wednesday. It that ie ERG mode or do I need to make a file? When do the test can you stand? I have to fix a flat I blew it out last CT ride. Just to give you guy a heads up on the power you are facing.  |
| 2014-12-22 8:02 AM in reply to: marcag |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by marcag James, Fred and Chris (since you all have CTs) Want to try something fun ? Have you ever tried a MAP test. You basically start at say 200w and every minute increase by 25w until failure. The average power of your last minute is your Maximum aerobic power In theory your 5' power should be about 90% of this. Your FTP 72-75% of this. I suspect it overstates FTP for many of us. Try it, it's fun. Strange definition of fun... Sounds horribly painful yet intriguing at the same time. |
| 2014-12-22 8:03 AM in reply to: 0 |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by BrotherTri Originally posted by marcag James, Fred and Chris (since you all have CTs) Want to try something fun ? Have you ever tried a MAP test. You basically start at say 200w and every minute increase by 25w until failure. The average power of your last minute is your Maximum aerobic power In theory your 5' power should be about 90% of this. Your FTP 72-75% of this. I suspect it overstates FTP for many of us. Try it, it's fun. Sounds fun. I can do it this Wednesday. It that ie ERG mode or do I need to make a file? When do the test can you stand? I have to fix a flat I blew it out last CT ride. Just to give you guy a heads up on the power you are facing. Erg mode is best. No need for a file if you can raise the power 25w per minute. No standing. You must hold a cadence. Dropping cadence is part of failure. It will be interesting to compare to your 20' test. I'll post my test on Strava when you're done :-) Edited by marcag 2014-12-22 8:06 AM |
| 2014-12-22 8:13 AM in reply to: ChrisM |
Pro 4675 Wisconsin near the Twin Cities metro | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by ChrisM I am not the fastest cyclist, but PT G3 laced into a DT Swiss with a disc cover for racing simply can't e beat for value and performance, IMO. This is basically my setup as well, but I have an older Pro+ PT laced on the DT Swiss. I've used it for my last 3 IM with the disc cover. A few years ago I got a new Zipp Super 9 disk at a huge discount (about $1200 if I recall) from the owner of our local tri shop. I don't use it anymore since I want the power on the bike so it sits leaning up against the wall near my CT and I occasionally glance over at it as I do my workout thinking I should sell it to get a new PT that I can lace into my old Zip 808 that came with my Felt DA when I bought it. Either that, or switch to a crank-based pm and start using the Super 9 for racing. |
| 2014-12-22 8:13 AM in reply to: BrotherTri |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by BrotherTri I did a 20 min power test this am. Anyone care to figure out my FTP? 20' @275w avg 3.4w per kilo 180 lbs body weight 88.5 rpms I have know idea if this is good or bad? btw peak power was 632w according to this, you should fail at 350w. I bet you go higher, |
| 2014-12-22 8:21 AM in reply to: marcag |
Master 2621 Mechanicsburg, PA | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by BrotherTri Originally posted by marcag James, Fred and Chris (since you all have CTs) Want to try something fun ? Have you ever tried a MAP test. You basically start at say 200w and every minute increase by 25w until failure. The average power of your last minute is your Maximum aerobic power In theory your 5' power should be about 90% of this. Your FTP 72-75% of this. I suspect it overstates FTP for many of us. Try it, it's fun. Sounds fun. I can do it this Wednesday. It that ie ERG mode or do I need to make a file? When do the test can you stand? I have to fix a flat I blew it out last CT ride. Just to give you guy a heads up on the power you are facing. Erg mode is best. No need for a file if you can raise the power 25w per minute. No standing. You must hold a cadence. Dropping cadence is part of failure. It will be interesting to compare to your 20' test. I'll post my test on Strava when you're done :-) Marc, so you did your test already? Full disclosure I do not train in erg mode. So will I need to do the warm up in erg? I mean I will do a WU I was figuring 20-25 min WU in CT mode then go into erg 5 min WU then test. How's that sound? |
| 2014-12-22 8:31 AM in reply to: BrotherTri |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by BrotherTri Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by BrotherTri Originally posted by marcag James, Fred and Chris (since you all have CTs) Want to try something fun ? Have you ever tried a MAP test. You basically start at say 200w and every minute increase by 25w until failure. The average power of your last minute is your Maximum aerobic power In theory your 5' power should be about 90% of this. Your FTP 72-75% of this. I suspect it overstates FTP for many of us. Try it, it's fun. Sounds fun. I can do it this Wednesday. It that ie ERG mode or do I need to make a file? When do the test can you stand? I have to fix a flat I blew it out last CT ride. Just to give you guy a heads up on the power you are facing. Erg mode is best. No need for a file if you can raise the power 25w per minute. No standing. You must hold a cadence. Dropping cadence is part of failure. It will be interesting to compare to your 20' test. I'll post my test on Strava when you're done :-) Marc, so you did your test already? Full disclosure I do not train in erg mode. So will I need to do the warm up in erg? I mean I will do a WU I was figuring 20-25 min WU in CT mode then go into erg 5 min WU then test. How's that sound? Perfect. I did 20' w/u at about 165-170w, then started at 200w and went up 25w per minute. To be honest, only the last minute hurt. |
| 2014-12-22 9:03 AM in reply to: marcag |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Why is dropping cadence part of the failure? |
| 2014-12-22 9:37 AM in reply to: axteraa |
Master 2621 Mechanicsburg, PA | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by axteraa Why is dropping cadence part of the failure? Yeah and @ how many RPM's loss? I can see defections now going up in watts. I can spin ez 110+ but at 350w maybe 80 RPM's maybe I can go more to 90. So I guess I should shoot for 70 ish RPM's? |
| 2014-12-22 9:42 AM in reply to: Fred D |
Master 2621 Mechanicsburg, PA | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Sad day......Fred's account is deleted. Sux's BT just does not know what it is doing to it's self! How the f.... do you make a mad face?!?! |
| 2014-12-22 9:44 AM in reply to: axteraa |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by axteraa Why is dropping cadence part of the failure? I think that when you start dropping to 40rpm, just mashing the pedals with your body weight, you've gone over the line. |
| 2014-12-22 9:49 AM in reply to: BrotherTri |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by BrotherTri Sad day......Fred's account is deleted. Sux's BT just does not know what it is doing to it's self! How the f.... do you make a mad face?!?! Are you sure ? It seems there, at least his profile still is. His Mentor group is still in the staging area as well. I hope he reconsiders at one point. |
| 2014-12-22 9:50 AM in reply to: BrotherTri |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by BrotherTri Originally posted by axteraa Why is dropping cadence part of the failure? Yeah and @ how many RPM's loss? I can see defections now going up in watts. I can spin ez 110+ but at 350w maybe 80 RPM's maybe I can go more to 90. So I guess I should shoot for 70 ish RPM's? Ya, I think the idea is when you can't go at your normal cadence +/- 10 or so |
| 2014-12-22 9:52 AM in reply to: marcag |
Master 2621 Mechanicsburg, PA | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by BrotherTri Sad day......Fred's account is deleted. Sux's BT just does not know what it is doing to it's self! How the f.... do you make a mad face?!?! Are you sure ? It seems there, at least his profile still is. His Mentor group is still in the staging area as well. I hope he reconsiders at one point. No not 100%. Not sure if Ron is waiting or what. I did text Fred. |
| 2014-12-22 10:01 AM in reply to: marcag |
Master 2621 Mechanicsburg, PA | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by axteraa Why is dropping cadence part of the failure? I think that when you start dropping to 40rpm, just mashing the pedals with your body weight, you've gone over the line. This makes sense. Like climbing a 20% grade in 39/23 for me. When I get that low in RPM's something is soon stopping or I am out of the saddle. So I get it. Wednesday I'll test. Does Jim want in? |
| 2014-12-22 10:13 AM in reply to: Fred D |
Master 2621 Mechanicsburg, PA | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ~~~~ Permanently OPEN!! Yes all Fred is gone from BT. It was his decision. That I respect. As far as BT goes it really need to understand that people are here on their own and with that can leave. If quality people leave BT not much use to new comers. I don't no what more to say........ |
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