Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes) (Page 107)

I don't know any of my zones or VO2 stuff.

You know it's impossible for me to run "fast," right?

When I've done it before, after warming up, I do one mile at 10 mpm, and then aim for 9:30 mpm in the second mile. That's it. All I have is my Ironman watch (thank you, TJ), so I'm not keeping a constant eye on it while I'm running.

Typically 20-25 miles per week, sometimes up toward 30, but usually right around 25.  I'm aiming for 80-100 mpw this summer. 100 is proving to be tough to get to for me this summer if I taper before my races (which is what happened in May).

I should say that I also don't do this "tempo" run even every week, maybe every two or three weeks. I just feel like I need to try to hit that 9:30/mile pace every once in a while so I know what it feels like. If I don't do it sometimes in training, how could I hope to hit it in a race.

Which is why I was really interested in what you said about Hanson's method -- all of that tempo work seems like a good idea to me.

Right, because only two miles are at tempo.

My long runs go pretty well, for the most part. This summer especially, I am not doing a long run every week. I'm just trying to hold onto my 10 mile fitness during this season and then will kick it back up in September. I'm trying to use that long run time this summer to work on that blasted bike fitness.

LOL I'm thinking of doing a 15k on the 4th of July. It's a point to point -- we start in the town 9 miles to the north of us and run straight down the highway to our town. The only elevation gain is going to be the couple short bridges over a couple streams/rivers. Maybe 15 feet of elevation? And that gain may be offset by the fact that our town actually sits in a hole, so the whole race may actually be running downhill just slightly.

I'm kind of looking forward to it for that reason. Now, if the wind would just be blowing from the north that morning (fat chance), I could make some serious time.

You're Welcome. It is actually in my bookmarks and I re-read it every couple of months.

x2. Check my elevation on my stuff. Start at 5 ft above sea level, gain 3 feet in entire run, then return to the start place. Yeah, that's right, 3 feet!!!!

ETA: I just checked today's run. I went from 10 ft to 11 ft and back to 10. 1 ft change!

Yep, since the new site. I must have an internal filter that works on Internet ads. I know they're there, but I couldn't tell you what they say.

Next 2 days are gonna be nothing but rain. I just checked and we are at the southern most point of the Trop Storm warning. I'll be at the YMCA tomorrow, running or riding in place, unless I can get out in the morning before the rain starts. We should see 2-4 inches.

Fast is a term, in this case, relative to you. 

Now, I am a huuuuge fan of big miles and think everyone should do them, if they can. But it needs to be done slowly, over time. Ramping up to 100 MPW from that quickly 30 is not advisable! Holy sh*t. You are talking miles, right??????

What is the most MPW you have run, over a period of time? EX: 70 MPW over the course of 8 weeks, stepping back to 60 1 of those weeks.

*And just FYI, I hit paces in races that I don't ever hit in training

I was probably exaggerating about the 50feet gain. I just ran almost five, and I checked the elevation gain --- 7 feet. No wonder I suck at hills.

OMG. I meant 100 per month. Cr@p. That would be insane. Sorry about that. No. I think I've topped out at 30 mpw. I'm actually pretty happy there. I think it was November or December last year where I hit 117 for the month. With all my big talk and dream of running ultra races, realistically, it ain't gonna happen. I don't even see a marathon in my future. Ever. I'm okay with that.

Okay. Maybe not so okay. There is this trail marathon that I really, really, really want to do. From what I can tell, running that marathon is the only way to get to some of those trails because they are closed, and there are some cool canyons and petroglyphs.

But realistically. No marathons.

Phhheewwww. Yeah, I was feeling as though I perhaps failed you all with any running advice I have given in the past if there was something that made you think jumping to 100 MPW was a good idea 

Sorry for the public berating, now, did you get the answers to your questions?

Speaking of marathons ... do you want to know how to get that faster 10K? Train for a marathon 

LOL Great. Train for it, and not run it. But I see the logic. Run lots. Mostly easy. Sometimes hard.

Yes. I got my questions answered, but I think I hijacked someone's post to do it. Stacey's, I think??? I did such a good job taking it over, that I don't even remember who asked the original question. Shame on me.

That's funny. I've thought of doing a similar thing with a one mile stretch on my bike. There's a bridge, a short bridge with not much gain, but it's something.

I thought you meant month, I even starting typing a reply, then thought of the ultra thing and that this is summer and you might have time now, so I kept quiet.

No marathons for me either. Unless I do the Goofy Challenge or Dopey Challenge at some point in my life, and that sure ain't happening anytime soon.

Very cool, way to be a great ambassador!

I guess I'm lucky where I'm located.  Depending how you feel on a given day you can go very hilly or more rolling hilly.  There are a few flat-ish areas like the rail trails (trains don't like steep grades, go figure), but mostly constant elevation changes.  I like that, it keeps rides and runs interesting.