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I got in a 15min jog yesterday, followed by 20 minutes of strength training. I swam 1200 yards this morning and am on my way to do a 30 minute core workout! Yikes! 

While my training has just begun, you all are mid-season. I am going to be ready to roll in the fall. I am just dreading the cicadas that will be here any day now...

This brings up an interesting point.

How many of you train year round versus training for a specific event and then taking a long period off? 

I hope to start training year round once I establish my baseline this summer. It would make it easier to prepare for specific events, right? The only thing I fear is either running/biking in the cold or worse....working out at a gym! Treadmills are my worst enemy.



2013-05-08 10:26 AM
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kaburns1214 - 2013-05-08 11:13 AM
collyd123 - 2013-05-08 10:50 AM

I got in a 15min jog yesterday, followed by 20 minutes of strength training. I swam 1200 yards this morning and am on my way to do a 30 minute core workout! Yikes! 

While my training has just begun, you all are mid-season. I am going to be ready to roll in the fall. I am just dreading the cicadas that will be here any day now...

This brings up an interesting point.

How many of you train year round versus training for a specific event and then taking a long period off? 

I train year round but it's training periodization. After my last race of the season I take two weeks of and then cut my volume and training speeds back to allow my body to heal and get accustomed to a new base level and then rebuild from there. Average runs where my heart rate average was in the mid to high 140's is now in the low to mid 130's. I additionally don't do any long runs or rides but I'm riding and running more fequently.

I think taking no time off you're headed for burnout but to take too long you loose too much fitness. I also think training at the same level all year you're asking for an injury.

2013-05-08 10:28 AM
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kaburns1214 - 2013-05-08 9:54 AM I agree with Texas Scott

LOL.

I thought that was a good way to differentiate. 

I was going to start going with yankee Scott and Southern Scott haha

Yankee Scott has a certain baseball team from NY connotation but I guess it's better than BeanTown Scott.

2013-05-08 10:28 AM
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collyd123 - 2013-05-08 11:21 AM
kaburns1214 - 2013-05-08 11:13 AM
collyd123 - 2013-05-08 10:50 AM

I got in a 15min jog yesterday, followed by 20 minutes of strength training. I swam 1200 yards this morning and am on my way to do a 30 minute core workout! Yikes! 

While my training has just begun, you all are mid-season. I am going to be ready to roll in the fall. I am just dreading the cicadas that will be here any day now...

This brings up an interesting point.

How many of you train year round versus training for a specific event and then taking a long period off? 

I hope to start training year round once I establish my baseline this summer. It would make it easier to prepare for specific events, right? The only thing I fear is either running/biking in the cold or worse....working out at a gym! Treadmills are my worst enemy.

Yes, with a caveat. 

Training year round helps to maintain fitness levels and allows you to build on fitness from year-to-year, however its really important to take some total down time at the end of your season (whenever that may be).  Taking 2-4 weeks completely off lets your body recover from all the damage you've done, allows your hormone levels to return to normal and puts you the position to make fitness gains in the "new" year. 

2013-05-08 10:29 AM
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kaburns1214 - 2013-05-08 11:12 AM
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kaburns1214 - 2013-05-08 9:54 AM I agree with Texas Scott

LOL.

I thought that was a good way to differentiate. 

It is, but it did make me laugh.

2013-05-08 10:29 AM
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I train year round because I can train outside for at least 11 of 12 months


2013-05-08 10:29 AM
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everlong - 2013-05-08 11:28 AM
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kaburns1214 - 2013-05-08 11:12 AM
everlong - 2013-05-08 10:48 AM

kaburns1214 - 2013-05-08 9:54 AM I agree with Texas Scott

LOL.

I thought that was a good way to differentiate. 

I was going to start going with yankee Scott and Southern Scott haha

Yankee Scott has a certain baseball team from NY connotation but I guess it's better than BeanTown Scott.

Boston Scott and Texas Scott (Massachusetts has too many letters).

2013-05-08 10:29 AM
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kaburns1214 - 2013-05-08 9:57 AM

Swim for me this morning and then swimming lessons.

I am working with a marine who is taking the test to be special ops diver and he needs to be able to swim a 500 breast stroke in less than 14 minutes. 

What kind of stuff are you having this guy do so he meets his goal?

Breast stroke is my least favorite stroke.  I have always been slow at it. 

2013-05-08 10:30 AM
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kaburns1214 - 2013-05-08 11:28 AM
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kaburns1214 - 2013-05-08 11:13 AM
collyd123 - 2013-05-08 10:50 AM

I got in a 15min jog yesterday, followed by 20 minutes of strength training. I swam 1200 yards this morning and am on my way to do a 30 minute core workout! Yikes! 

While my training has just begun, you all are mid-season. I am going to be ready to roll in the fall. I am just dreading the cicadas that will be here any day now...

This brings up an interesting point.

How many of you train year round versus training for a specific event and then taking a long period off? 

I hope to start training year round once I establish my baseline this summer. It would make it easier to prepare for specific events, right? The only thing I fear is either running/biking in the cold or worse....working out at a gym! Treadmills are my worst enemy.

Yes, with a caveat. 

Training year round helps to maintain fitness levels and allows you to build on fitness from year-to-year, however its really important to take some total down time at the end of your season (whenever that may be).  Taking 2-4 weeks completely off lets your body recover from all the damage you've done, allows your hormone levels to return to normal and puts you the position to make fitness gains in the "new" year. 

I finally beat you or Texas Scott when writing the same (basically) reply!

2013-05-08 10:31 AM
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uhcoog - 2013-05-08 9:06 AM

Mmmmm..... ribs.

 

So for mobility and stuff like what Jen is experiencing check out www.mobilitywod.com.  It's good stuff and something I personally need to make more time for.  I strongly dislike crossfit for triathletes BTW, but this site is good

 

1:30 of over/unders on the bike and a 25 min easy jog.  Body didn't want to go which is normal for a taper, but frustrating nonetheless.

Thanks, Scott.  I'm going to check out this site.  

2013-05-08 10:32 AM
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kaburns1214 - 2013-05-08 11:29 AM
everlong - 2013-05-08 11:28 AM
kidtri33 - 2013-05-08 11:15 AM
kaburns1214 - 2013-05-08 11:12 AM
everlong - 2013-05-08 10:48 AM

kaburns1214 - 2013-05-08 9:54 AM I agree with Texas Scott

LOL.

I thought that was a good way to differentiate. 

I was going to start going with yankee Scott and Southern Scott haha

Yankee Scott has a certain baseball team from NY connotation but I guess it's better than BeanTown Scott.

Boston Scott and Texas Scott (Massachusetts has too many letters).

That makes him TS but I get stuck with BS. All of them are fine in all honesty.



2013-05-08 10:40 AM
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everlong - 2013-05-08 11:32 AM

That makes him TS but I get stuck with BS. All of them are fine in all honesty.



That made me giggle a little.
2013-05-08 10:41 AM
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jarvy01 - 2013-05-08 11:29 AM
kaburns1214 - 2013-05-08 9:57 AM

Swim for me this morning and then swimming lessons.

I am working with a marine who is taking the test to be special ops diver and he needs to be able to swim a 500 breast stroke in less than 14 minutes. 

What kind of stuff are you having this guy do so he meets his goal?

Breast stroke is my least favorite stroke.  I have always been slow at it. 

Initially I just worked with him through a series of drills to teach him breast stroke (just like I have a drill progression for butterfly, I have one for breast stroke).  Now I'm having him do drill work and sets of breast stroke (e.g. 8 x 50, 6 x 100).  On he's going to do a 500TT to see where he is. 

2013-05-08 10:41 AM
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75 minute run in, per plan. Starting to pay better attention to my nutrition before/during my workouts, as I know that is a big factor for the HIM. Tomorrow's planned workout is a swim-bike-brick for that purpose.

Mmmm. Ribs. If there were ribs in my house, there'd be no leftovers. My 8 and 11 year old girls can pack them away as well as my 210-pound husband. I'm lucky to get any!
2013-05-08 10:44 AM
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kaburns1214 - 2013-05-08 11:28 AM
collyd123 - 2013-05-08 11:21 AM
kaburns1214 - 2013-05-08 11:13 AM
collyd123 - 2013-05-08 10:50 AM

I got in a 15min jog yesterday, followed by 20 minutes of strength training. I swam 1200 yards this morning and am on my way to do a 30 minute core workout! Yikes! 

While my training has just begun, you all are mid-season. I am going to be ready to roll in the fall. I am just dreading the cicadas that will be here any day now...

This brings up an interesting point.

How many of you train year round versus training for a specific event and then taking a long period off? 

I hope to start training year round once I establish my baseline this summer. It would make it easier to prepare for specific events, right? The only thing I fear is either running/biking in the cold or worse....working out at a gym! Treadmills are my worst enemy.

Yes, with a caveat. 

Training year round helps to maintain fitness levels and allows you to build on fitness from year-to-year, however its really important to take some total down time at the end of your season (whenever that may be).  Taking 2-4 weeks completely off lets your body recover from all the damage you've done, allows your hormone levels to return to normal and puts you the position to make fitness gains in the "new" year. 

After my A race last season, I just couldn't wrap my head around taking time off and I wanted to jump right back into it all (2 weeks off....like it's a year or something lol).  My goal for this year is to use the time after my IM to do all the things I sacrifice right now - late nights out with my best girlfriends, travel, staying up late with my husband and waking up when my kids jump on my bed, alcohol, coffee after 4 pm, joy rides outside, etc.  I know the training will start back up when it needs to so I can start creating base for the next race.  I want to let myself relax mentally so I can be really strong when it counts.   

**edited to add that I will still be training year round......I just need to mentally let myself off the hook for a while.  I have a habit of making every workout a competition.  I have been in hyperdrive mode for 3 years.  



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2013-05-08 10:52 AM
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I did not technically start training for tris until mid Jan this year. I started swim lessons last October and began training for a 1/2 marathon around that time too, but no bike. Prior to that, I ran in preparation for sports. So, after my A race in Sept, I have a 1/2 marathon in Oct and another in Jan. With the consistent training and gains I have noticed thus far and recognizing where my weaknesses lie, I do not plan to stop training - other than the recommended 2 weeks or so recovery - so I can continue the momentum for 2014.


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I wish we had running races around here during the winter months.  I wouldn't mind running them in the snow, but things really shut down from Dec.-March.  I'm doing the Rock and Roll Cleveland HM with my husband in October, and turkey trot for fun in Nov., and then there is literally nothing around here until March.  There are still tons of opportunities to make improvements across the board. 

I want to see what I think of the Iron distance before I even begin to think about what I'll focus on in 2014.  

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kaburns1214 - 2013-05-08 11:13 AM
collyd123 - 2013-05-08 10:50 AM

I got in a 15min jog yesterday, followed by 20 minutes of strength training. I swam 1200 yards this morning and am on my way to do a 30 minute core workout! Yikes! 

While my training has just begun, you all are mid-season. I am going to be ready to roll in the fall. I am just dreading the cicadas that will be here any day now...

This brings up an interesting point.

How many of you train year round versus training for a specific event and then taking a long period off? 

I just started this in December of last year, but I see me training year round.  Unlike some people I don't mind running on the treadmill or being on the trainer.  This means all I have to leave my house for is the pool, so it gives my workout schedule a lot more flexibility.

After this initial season is over, I'm going to take a deeper look at what I'm doing, and how I'm doing it.  I will probably also look into a coaching service to give me a better overall plan, as well as help push me for longer distance races.

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Jen - the 1/2 mary in Jan is at Disney - so that does not count as winter. The 1/2 in oct is here in Maine and it is (can be) really nice and cool and pretty.

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jarvy01 - 2013-05-08 10:58 AM

I wish we had running races around here during the winter months.  I wouldn't mind running them in the snow, but things really shut down from Dec.-March.  I'm doing the Rock and Roll Cleveland HM with my husband in October, and turkey trot for fun in Nov., and then there is literally nothing around here until March.  There are still tons of opportunities to make improvements across the board. 

I want to see what I think of the Iron distance before I even begin to think about what I'll focus on in 2014.  

 

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everlong - 2013-05-08 11:32 AM
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kaburns1214 - 2013-05-08 9:54 AM I agree with Texas Scott

LOL.

I thought that was a good way to differentiate. 

I was going to start going with yankee Scott and Southern Scott haha

Yankee Scott has a certain baseball team from NY connotation but I guess it's better than BeanTown Scott.

Boston Scott and Texas Scott (Massachusetts has too many letters).

That makes him TS but I get stuck with BS. All of them are fine in all honesty.

Haha good laugh for me. I am digging the Boston Scott and Texas Scott. 


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jarvy01 - 2013-05-08 11:58 AM

I wish we had running races around here during the winter months.  I wouldn't mind running them in the snow, but things really shut down from Dec.-March.  I'm doing the Rock and Roll Cleveland HM with my husband in October, and turkey trot for fun in Nov., and then there is literally nothing around here until March.  There are still tons of opportunities to make improvements across the board. 

I want to see what I think of the Iron distance before I even begin to think about what I'll focus on in 2014.  

One season at a time...Iron distance is much bigger commitment that I will have to have a discussion with the family about. All of you with children doing the Iron distance are an inspiration! It definitely lets me know it is possible.  
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jarvy01 - 2013-05-08 11:58 AM

I wish we had running races around here during the winter months.  I wouldn't mind running them in the snow, but things really shut down from Dec.-March.  I'm doing the Rock and Roll Cleveland HM with my husband in October, and turkey trot for fun in Nov., and then there is literally nothing around here until March.  There are still tons of opportunities to make improvements across the board. 

I want to see what I think of the Iron distance before I even begin to think about what I'll focus on in 2014.  

There are races here all year long. Everybody I know who ran a race from Dec to Feb this year got awful weather. The worst of which was the Hyannis marathon and half mary. It was 33 degrees, pouring and had had 40 MPH winds gusting to over 60. Screw that.

I'm waiting until after the season as well to figure out 2014 but more because I need time to formulate the best scenario where the wife says yes to an IM! Wish me luck.......I'll need more of it getting permission than I will completing the race should I get permission, LOL.

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I posted this in the HIM mentor board too, but it doesn't hurt to get multiple opinions...

Multitude of questions that occurred to me during my run this morning.....

1) I know what they will be serving at the aid stations during the run of my HIM. I assume I should practice eating some of the stuff on a long run to see how it works out - (water, HEED, ice, flat Coke, Chex mix, orange quarters, Hammer Gel, and E-Caps). I was planning on carrying my own drink (see next question) - so I figured I'd try out the chex mix and orange quarters - I prefer to go natural over chemical. Any benefit I'm not thinking of with respect to the Hammer Gel and E-caps?

2) I have had cramping issues in the past, so I did my last 2 half-marys with nuun (my electrolyte of choice) in my camelback. I'm planning on doing this during the HIM - I'm not out to set any speed records - any huge negatives for me throwing my camelback on in T2 for the run leg? For the half marys, I was able to use the camelback + the water at aid stations to hydrate fine.

3) KT Tape. I've had ITB issues in the past, but they seem to be in the past. However, when going for a run of > 1 hour, I generally tape up my knees as a precaution. I could a) wean myself off the KT tape or b) plan on wearing it for the race - I assume I put it on before the race...does it stay on in water as well as they claim or will it just be a hassle for me?

4) Calf sleeves - based on my cramping issues before, I usually run my half marys (and runs > 10 miles) with calf sleeves. What do you do about these in races (or is this something else I need to wean myself off of)?

5) Watches & wetsuits. I have a heck of a time getting my wetsuit on and off as it is - how do I deal with that and my watch (Garmin 305)?

Sorry if any of these are silly, but I need something other than my lousy swim to occupy my panic zone.
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Saw a post for this on MFP, so here is my info.

Name: David

Location: Philly, PA 

Family: Wife (who is very supportive of everything I do and participates in almost every race I do

Story: Did my first triathlon last year. I did the Olympic distance for the Philly Triathlon. I was hooked after doing it...however, I got extremely injured from a multitude of things...but all is fixed thanks to a sports medicine doctor. My ultimate goal is to complete Kona...lofty, yes, attainable, I will make it so!

2013 Races: 

  • UMLY Sprint Tri - 4/28/13 (Completed)
  • Philly Olympic Tri - 6/23/13
  • I have a ton of non tri events as well (all running)


Weight Loss: With my knee and back issues, I am trying to get down to a weight that is healthy and will allow for the least possible impact from my weight. I have about 15 lbs left to lose. 

Current Training: I have a very mixed up schedule right now because I got sick and was out of commission for almost 3 weeks, so my training schedule is "playing catch-up". That said, I follow basically a hybrid of a half marathon racing schedule mixed with a beginner triathlon training schedule. Once I complete my Philly Tri, I will be working on speed work for half marathon distance, with the goal of doing a half IM next year.

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