Andy and everybody else.......you gotta stop with the "buts", "I know it doesn't sound like much" and all the other denegrating comments about your performance.  When you have a great achievement, like Andy and Doug did today, YOU'VE GOT TO SCREAM IT FROM THE ROOFTOP AND LET IT STAND ON ITS OWN!  Each one of us is in a different place in our tri experiences and all the little accomplishments are celebrated by the group equally.  Enough said!

Tony

You are right, there is no way to short calories and fluid intake during a marathon.  If you do the last 10k blows.  It took me several marathons and a lot of experimenting to get it right, but I finally figured out the formula that works for me.  In a nutshell, you need to replace about 30% of the calories you burn.  In this link  you will find an article on calculating your calorie needs as well as a good article on osmolality.  I use Infinit for my primary source of carbs/electrolytes and supplement with CarbPro.  I can only drink so much of one beverage before the gag factor kicks in.   If it is hot, I will supplement with a Success Cap every hour.

I do carry a Fuelt Belt, the 4 bottle (8oz) version.  My sherpa aka Paul hands me a second fule belt about 14-16m into the race with a new stash.  Is your wife running the race too?  If not, she could perhaps be your sherpa????  Otherwise, you could find a spot and hide your fuel ahead of time, not always easy.    I do know people who concentrate their Infinit and then chase it with H20 on the course, but that is NOT exact enough for me.   Like you, I never get in enough water from those little cups on the fly.  You could decide to walk through the H20 stop and probably would not lose much time in the long run.

As for solid foods or sports beans/blocks I cannot handle them.  If you can, I think you are at a distinct advantage. They are easy to carry and water is plentiful on the course.
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You also brought up the topic of hill training.  I did not do any of it when training for my early marathons or even Boston.  The risk of injury is great,but mainly due to the downhill portion.  MCM is not that hilly, but if you decide to add hill work, I would recommend running up the hill hard and recovering by walking down the hill.  Much easier on the knees and hips.  It is a great way to raise your LT without constant speedwork.  Personally, I do not see how hill running can replicate long runs.  One of the benefits of the long run is getting your body used to being out there for hours and learning to carb spare in the process.  If you want to do hills, do them to strengthen your legs, not for the long run (that is just my opinion).  I just started doing hill training this week for the first time ever.  For me, it is all about building leg strength.

Let me know if you have any other questions.
Suzy

Reuben

Are you really an entomologist? where? I was the Marketing Director on Raid for three years before I left SC Johnson.  Used to spend a lot of time in the entomology center working on new more effective ways to kill bugs.  My favorite were the Hissing Cockroaches!  Those suckers were big and nasty!  The smartest were the ants. I could watch them for hours. 

Suzy

Edited by SSMinnow 2009-06-18 5:23 PM

Good stuff there suzy, thanks.

John said to Rueben Nice Avatar "bug" (instead of "big") guy so trevor in yet another sad attempt at humor asked if he was an entomologist.

LOL!  now I get it too!

I am with you all... I had no clue of those 20 or so post on what the heck they were talking about. 

Steve, I agree with others, you should make one or both of those bike pic's into a poster with the title HTFU or something like that.

Steve--Will you send us one for Christmas?

haha yeah just use them for x-mas cards, your tri friends would understand.

oh, and sadly I think lately I am on the forums more at night even than during the day.  I am working on an embedded operating system that takes about 45 minutes to get compiled and it involves a lot of trial and error, make one change, compile and copy for 45 minutes, nope not working, make another tweak, rinse and repeat. 

So I have lots of free time while waiting...

Thank you thnak you very much....

I agree Steve. Those pics are awesome and would look great blown up on the wall.

Off to my swim group, have a good night all!

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AWESOME!  But maybe the second line a little larger font.

Agree on the bottom font but could be hard to tell with the low res picture.

Love the poster, and thank you Suzy for asking about the thread. I had NO clue what that was about either.

Doug

love love love the Steve poster - that's my new computer wallpaper. The second Steve put that pic up, I thought "that pretty much sums up HTFU". Steve, you are amazing. Good luck at Livestrong - my husband is doing it too. We drove up that hill near Montreaux last week - that's nasty.... but after Boise, that'll be a breeze for you

So my race got postponed by 2 months but I've kept up on training and decided to sign up for a sprint next weekend.  First race - cant wait!  Reading all your posts and race reports really inspired me to race sooner than later. Going to do the course tomorrow (it's close to my house).  Still taking it easy on the running so we'll see how it goes.

Hey there Shannon, you'll do great, can't wait to read the Race Report.

So if you guys came upon a windfall of say 500 bucks and you were in my shoes what would you get.

A. Better Aero front wheel.  Right now I am running a Neuvation M28 (or is it R, whatever the aero version is), which is basically a regular front with aero spokes.  I would be looking at an H3 or HED Jet.  Something with non carbon braking surface so I don't have the wheel sitting around waiting for races.

B. Garmin 705.  Doing longer rides using a cue sheet sucks, I always get lost, would be nice to know where I am going.  Really only reason I would use this.  My PT is wired so it wouldn't be able to replace the head unit on my PT.  But of course it is technology and I love technology.

C. Wetsuit.  Right now I don't own a wetsuit I like, but really I only have a few races a year that are wetsuit legal so it is almost worth it to just rent, since I probably would spend 500 bucks over 3 years worth of rentals.

D. anything else?

Way to go Shannon!  You are gonna do GREAT!  Make sure to have fun!

Didn't you wear an Xterra at Mooseman?  Did you get this email from them?  Nevermind.  I found it back on page 95  Synergy


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