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rottieguy - 2009-10-12 4:59 PM

The weather in Michigan has basically been crap most of this year and our fall season which normally has some pretty decent days has been bad this year.   The last two weeks I've been on the trainer for my long rides and have managed a 5 hour and 6 hour and 20 minute ride.  I'm due for a 6 hour ride Thursday and see the forecast is for 49 and rain, so looks like I'll be on the trainer again, thou making it back to 6 hours on the trainer could drive me over the edge, so I added some intensity to todays 3:30 ride.

Not to mention I haven't had an OWS in a few weeks now and with temps in the 30's overnight I'm sure the lake we normally swim in has gotten quite cold.  Guess it's time to order the bootys

I hope my bad weather karma doesn't follow me to NC



Me too. I am a cold wuss! You win the HTFU award for putting in so much time on a trainer!


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keyone - 2009-10-12 2:21 PM
mr2tony - 2009-10-12 2:11 PM So there I was, all dressed in spandex, cold weather gear abounded, only to look outside and see six inches of snow on the ground Saturday morning. I figured if it cleared up by noon I'd go. No luck. So here I am, a month before the race and only one 83-miler under my belt. Will I EVER get in my century???
That totally sucks. How does the weather look for next weekend? Can't imagine a 6 hour trainer ride either, but might be worth HTFU'ing if you can. You know, I read an article once that said shorter workouts with high intensity bursts are as good for endurance as long slow training. I don't necessarily believe it, but maybe you could do 3 hours worth of spinervals DVDs on the trainer and it would equal a 6 hour ride outdoors. Might be worth a try if it's all you got! I have done 2 hours worth of Spinervals, and I was suffering so much that I didn't have time to get bored.

 

I did a 100 mile 5h 30min trainer ride on Sunday.  I did about 8 - 10 century rides before IM Louisville in Aug, but have not done a century since.  That was one long trainer ride, but I felt like I needed to get it in.  You should be fine if you have done some 80 mile rides.  Anything beyond 85 miles is mental.

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keyone - 2009-10-08 8:20 AM I'm getting in on Friday in time for the 2pm athlete meeting. I'd be in for a BT gathering. This place got good reviews on Google maps, has a varied menu, (beer, tho who drinks that the night before a race?) and has party rooms: http://www.fattonysitalianpub.comI have to have dinner at 5pm, not much later.


I highly recommend Fat Tony's!  We also have an Olive Garden, Carabba's, Elizabeth's Pizza, Antonio's and a Macaroni Grill in town that are all really good.  Wilmington has a ton of restaurants so you should be able to find somewhere good for a BT gathering!
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canadarn2001 - 2009-10-13 7:08 AM

keyone - 2009-10-08 8:20 AM I'm getting in on Friday in time for the 2pm athlete meeting. I'd be in for a BT gathering. This place got good reviews on Google maps, has a varied menu, (beer, tho who drinks that the night before a race?) and has party rooms: http://www.fattonysitalianpub.comI have to have dinner at 5pm, not much later.


I highly recommend Fat Tony's!  We also have an Olive Garden, Carabba's, Elizabeth's Pizza, Antonio's and a Macaroni Grill in town that are all really good.  Wilmington has a ton of restaurants so you should be able to find somewhere good for a BT gathering!


Thanks. So who's in (and how many in your party) to meet at one of those places listed above at 5pm on Friday? I'm going to post a message in the NC forum for the B2B halfers too.
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canadarn2001 - 2009-10-13 7:08 AM

keyone - 2009-10-08 8:20 AM I'm getting in on Friday in time for the 2pm athlete meeting. I'd be in for a BT gathering. This place got good reviews on Google maps, has a varied menu, (beer, tho who drinks that the night before a race?) and has party rooms: http://www.fattonysitalianpub.comI have to have dinner at 5pm, not much later.


I highly recommend Fat Tony's!  We also have an Olive Garden, Carabba's, Elizabeth's Pizza, Antonio's and a Macaroni Grill in town that are all really good.  Wilmington has a ton of restaurants so you should be able to find somewhere good for a BT gathering!



Excellent!!!!!!!!!! Thanks
2009-10-13 7:46 AM
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So, I thought I'd chime in about the weather/ indoor training.  Rottieguy is right, the Michigan fall has made outdoor training miserable, so I just finished up what I will call "mental toughness week" which was capped off with these three long workouts
last wednesday- 3:09:00 run= 20 miles ON THE TREADMILL
saturday- 6:03:00 trainer ride
last night- 192 lengths continuous in a 25M pool- yes, 3 miles in a pool for 1:22:00

Only a few more weeks!  Please, I want some sunshine for this race


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I'd be in for early dinner Friday....just me!  Fat Tony's looks good....

Edit to add:  I also posted something about this over in the HIM thread so that hopefully between Carol's post in NC forum and the post in the other thread we will hit everyone....

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rottieguy - 2009-10-12 4:59 PM

The weather in Michigan has basically been crap most of this year and our fall season which normally has some pretty decent days has been bad this year.   The last two weeks I've been on the trainer for my long rides and have managed a 5 hour and 6 hour and 20 minute ride.  I'm due for a 6 hour ride Thursday and see the forecast is for 49 and rain, so looks like I'll be on the trainer again, thou making it back to 6 hours on the trainer could drive me over the edge, so I added some intensity to todays 3:30 ride.

Not to mention I haven't had an OWS in a few weeks now and with temps in the 30's overnight I'm sure the lake we normally swim in has gotten quite cold.  Guess it's time to order the bootys

I hope my bad weather karma doesn't follow me to NC



Don't worry about the weather, Doug has already doomed us to race in the rain.

If you can't get outside for a ride, then the trainer is the next best thing. I definitely think it works the mental aspect of the day to come.
2009-10-13 10:21 AM
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Looks like a lot of us might end up on the trainer for a long distance group trainer ride this weekend!  Rain and a high in the 40's here will keep me locked inside on the sweat machine!  I'll personally be riding on Saturday morning, beginning around 6 until - well, 10 - 12 depending on my ironwill!!

The good news is the dr. cleared me for exercise today (I kind of cheated on Sunday and rode anyway when I wasn't supposed to!) and the poison oak seems to be clearing.  I'm all jacked up on steroids so maybe this will be a great training week!

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katimomma - 2009-10-13 11:21 AM

Looks like a lot of us might end up on the trainer for a long distance group trainer ride this weekend!  Rain and a high in the 40's here will keep me locked inside on the sweat machine!  I'll personally be riding on Saturday morning, beginning around 6 until - well, 10 - 12 depending on my ironwill!!

The good news is the dr. cleared me for exercise today (I kind of cheated on Sunday and rode anyway when I wasn't supposed to!) and the poison oak seems to be clearing.  I'm all jacked up on steroids so maybe this will be a great training week!



They will be testing urine at B2B. If you get pulled for a pee test, it was not my fault.
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keyone - 2009-10-08 8:20 AM I'm getting in on Friday in time for the 2pm athlete meeting. I'd be in for a BT gathering. This place got good reviews on Google maps, has a varied menu, (beer, tho who drinks that the night before a race?) and has party rooms: http://www.fattonysitalianpub.comI have to have dinner at 5pm, not much later.


I highly recommend Fat Tony's!  We also have an Olive Garden, Carabba's, Elizabeth's Pizza, Antonio's and a Macaroni Grill in town that are all really good.  Wilmington has a ton of restaurants so you should be able to find somewhere good for a BT gathering!
Thanks. So who's in (and how many in your party) to meet at one of those places listed above at 5pm on Friday? I'm going to post a message in the NC forum for the B2B halfers too.
                                                                                                                         


dose olive garden have the bottomless pasta bowl us clydesdale from the north like to eat alot before a big race i'll be coming on thur.and would like to join in if its ok?



                                  


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Coldfire - 2009-10-13 10:48 AM  Don't worry about the weather, Doug has already doomed us to race in the rain.  

Bad karma is a b!tch.



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I bailed out of my century ride I had scheduled on sunday. 1 mile into it I didn't feel like riding.  I decided to turn around at 10 miles and got just over 19 in. It's supposed to be clear and cold next Saturday. I will get in 100+, OUTSIDE, or bust!
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brown_dog_us - 2009-10-13 4:30 PM

Coldfire - 2009-10-13 10:48 AM  Don't worry about the weather, Doug has already doomed us to race in the rain.  

Bad karma is a b!tch.



BA HA HA HA HA


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keyone - 2009-10-13 6:39 AM
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keyone - 2009-10-08 8:20 AM I'm getting in on Friday in time for the 2pm athlete meeting. I'd be in for a BT gathering. This place got good reviews on Google maps, has a varied menu, (beer, tho who drinks that the night before a race?) and has party rooms: http://www.fattonysitalianpub.comI have to have dinner at 5pm, not much later.


I highly recommend Fat Tony's!  We also have an Olive Garden, Carabba's, Elizabeth's Pizza, Antonio's and a Macaroni Grill in town that are all really good.  Wilmington has a ton of restaurants so you should be able to find somewhere good for a BT gathering!
Thanks. So who's in (and how many in your party) to meet at one of those places listed above at 5pm on Friday? I'm going to post a message in the NC forum for the B2B halfers too.
                                                                                                                         


dose olive garden have the bottomless pasta bowl us clydesdale from the north like to eat alot before a big race i'll be coming on thur.and would like to join in if its ok?



                                  


So far two peeps have expressed interest in a BT dinner on Friday evening. If 5pm is too early for folks, I can be flexible with my dinnertime . There is a mandatory race meeting on Friday at 12 PM or 2 PM or 5PM. Thoughts?
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keyone - 2009-10-08 8:20 AM I'm getting in on Friday in time for the 2pm athlete meeting. I'd be in for a BT gathering. This place got good reviews on Google maps, has a varied menu, (beer, tho who drinks that the night before a race?) and has party rooms: http://www.fattonysitalianpub.comI have to have dinner at 5pm, not much later.


I highly recommend Fat Tony's!  We also have an Olive Garden, Carabba's, Elizabeth's Pizza, Antonio's and a Macaroni Grill in town that are all really good.  Wilmington has a ton of restaurants so you should be able to find somewhere good for a BT gathering!
Thanks. So who's in (and how many in your party) to meet at one of those places listed above at 5pm on Friday? I'm going to post a message in the NC forum for the B2B halfers too.
                                                                                                                         


dose olive garden have the bottomless pasta bowl us clydesdale from the north like to eat alot before a big race i'll be coming on thur.and would like to join in if its ok?



                                  


So far two peeps have expressed interest in a BT dinner on Friday evening. If 5pm is too early for folks, I can be flexible with my dinnertime . There is a mandatory race meeting on Friday at 12 PM or 2 PM or 5PM. Thoughts?


I think we'd be down with dinner on Friday. Count two in. I'm a late eater, though that day I may nom earlier than normal. I'm actually worried that I'm going to die Saturday, so let's make it a good last supper, huh?


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mr2tony - 2009-10-14 11:59 AM ] I think we'd be down with dinner on Friday. Count two in. I'm a late eater, though that day I may nom earlier than normal. I'm actually worried that I'm going to die Saturday, so let's make it a good last supper, huh?


Ummm does that make those of us attending followers of mr2tony at his last supper???  I'm OK with whatever time---have to get in a meeting soooo.....anyone have any clue how busy these places get this time of year/race weekend???  I'd hate to get some place and have to wait a hour or two if there's a bunch of us.
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Skippy74 - 2009-10-15 12:08 AM

mr2tony - 2009-10-14 11:59 AM ] I think we'd be down with dinner on Friday. Count two in. I'm a late eater, though that day I may nom earlier than normal. I'm actually worried that I'm going to die Saturday, so let's make it a good last supper, huh?


Ummm does that make those of us attending followers of mr2tony at his last supper???  I'm OK with whatever time---have to get in a meeting soooo.....anyone have any clue how busy these places get this time of year/race weekend???  I'd hate to get some place and have to wait a hour or two if there's a bunch of us.


HaHa, last supper, that's good! Once I have a head count, I was going to try and make a reservatoin someplace. If it's like the Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill area, they won't take reservations on a weekend night, and you have to get there before 5:30 to avoid a 2 hour wait. One reason my preference is early!
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Having done 2 IM's before I can say with all certaintly that 5 hours on the trainer is much worse!  Ouch!  I got mine done today - anybody else suffering inside this weekend?

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katimomma - 2009-10-16 3:17 PM

Having done 2 IM's before I can say with all certaintly that 5 hours on the trainer is much worse!  Ouch!  I got mine done today - anybody else suffering inside this weekend?



It's supposed to be 58 and sunny here next week. I'm doing 6.5 hours outside. I'm actually kind of enjoying the weather since I think it's probably closer to what race conditions will be like than the nicer weather. But who knows. I have to say, my feet got cold last night after about an hour in the 38 degree rain.
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I'm at the beach this weekend and will ride most of the course tomorrow. Should be a nice day for it. This evening I ran on the beach, and I ran down to the inlet where the B2B race will start.

It was just pure luck that I ended up there. It was a beautiful spot on the beach, a lovely sunset (we will see the sunrise), sand dunes speckled with sea oats. Really makes me excited for this race! When I was done running, my muscles were sore (beach running takes alot out of you!). I sat in the surf to take an 'ice bath'. It was not cold at all. No colder than Lake Jordan, which is around 72deg. I was chilly walking back to my car, tho. The air temp was 57 and very windy.

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David tri's - 2009-10-14 8:15 AM I bailed out of my century ride I had scheduled on sunday. 1 mile into it I didn't feel like riding.  I decided to turn around at 10 miles and got just over 19 in. It's supposed to be clear and cold next Saturday. I will get in 100+, OUTSIDE, or bust!


I did it. But it hurt. Between the 20 mile outside run yestarday in the sub 40* air and the 103 on the bike today (also about 40*, and very windy) I'm so finished with training in this weather.
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Race Day Prep---packing bags
Just a note that because the race is point to point, B2B will give you 6 bags for race day.
Bag#1 Will be taken to the start with you. your clothes that you take off at the beach can be put in there and will be returned
Bag#2 T1 bag.
Bag#3 Special needs bag for the half way point at the bike.
Bag#4 T2 bag. This will be delivered to the transition at the Battleship
Bag#5 Special needs bag for the halfway of the bike.
Bag#6 Finish bag. For clothes that you would like to have at the finish.

Bags 2-6 will be turned in at T1 when you catch the bus to the beach for the swim start.

I volunteered last year and they did a great job getting the bags delivered.
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Race Day Prep---packing bags
Just a note that because the race is point to point, B2B will give you 6 bags for race day.
Bag#1 Will be taken to the start with you. your clothes that you take off at the beach can be put in there and will be returned
Bag#2 T1 bag.
Bag#3 Special needs bag for the half way point at the bike.
Bag#4 T2 bag. This will be delivered to the transition at the Battleship
Bag#5 Special needs bag for the halfway of the bike.
Bag#6 Finish bag. For clothes that you would like to have at the finish.

Bags 2-6 will be turned in at T1 when you catch the bus to the beach for the swim start.

I volunteered last year and they did a great job getting the bags delivered.


Thanks, that is helpful! I need to start putting together all my stuff for those bags. I have alot of it in my head already! Does anyone know how/when we set up T1 and T2 and the logistics of the day? I imagine that will come in an email at some point.

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I rode most of the bike course yesterday. I screwed up making the cue sheet on google maps, so I ended up riding it in reverse. Crap, I wondered why we saw so many people riding the course backwards, haha! Really glad I scoped it out, tho, as I learned some things.

- It was freaking cold at 8am. I had prepared for a 50 degree start temperature. But, being cloudy and Very, very windy, it felt much colder. I had not brought gloves, so I stopped at a gas station to buy a cheapo pair of mens cotton work gloves. They worked fine. You will need gloves. Bring some cheapo kind that you can throw away later. I had bike shorts, jersey, arm warmers, newspaper stuffed into my jersey. That wasn't enough, so I put on a warmup jacket that I luckily had in my car. A friend loaned me some leg warmers. I was still chilly for the first hour. My toes were very cold, wish I had toe covers. Then I got warmed up, so I ditched the newspaper on the end of some random driveway. When the sun finally came out, I got warmer, so peeled off the gloves. After noon, I stopped to pee and took off the jacket and tied it around my waist. I think I will skip leg warmers, as they aren't easy to peel off. On race day, if it's about a 50 degree start, I will wear: toe covers, arm warmers, jersey with newspaper stuffed into it, windbreaker zip-up vest (might try to find that at a thrift store so I can ditch it), cheap gloves, bike shorts. If rain is in the forecast, I'll be sol. I don't have cold weather rain gear.

- we rode all the way up 421 with a headwind and it felt slightly uphill. That was very tough. Luckily, on race day, it will be the reverse, so that last 37 miles should be fast. I hope the wind is the same direction!

- 421 was boring. The last part was very industrial and busy. The final stretch leading to the battleship includes two badass bridges over a river and highway. One was really short steep climb. I like hills, so I enjoyed getting up out of the saddle to 'dance on the pedals' as they say in the Tour de France. Just mentally be prepared for this at the end and you'll be fine.

- between those two bridges above, there is a huge blob of dried concrete (must have spilled out of a truck or something). I think it was right on the white line. I ran right over it, duh! Watch out for that, plus a lot of debris in the shoulder. I hope they close off one lane of the road in this section. It was kind of a major highway, and I did not like riding on it. Big trucks going by me at 70 miles an hour!

- there were some nice little rollers on the loopy part of the course that includes 210 and 41. Very pretty country side. Some head wind, some tailwind, some false flats up and some down.

- I was riding with a group. Whenever I was in front or off the back by myself (mostly by choice) I watched my speed just to see what I can expect on race day. Sometimes I'd be going 16mph, and other times 23. It's just the wind and false flats that made the difference. On race day, just don't worry about that number. Stay in your 'zone'. If it's a headwind and your not going as fast as you want, dont' worry. Just hunker down and try to become the smallest shape possible to cut thru the wind. But don't try to push a certain speed, or you'll trash yourself. And, remember that you'll make it up going back down 421!!

- There were a couple of railroad tracks where my water bottle launched out of the cage in the back. Really got to figure out how to keep that from happening!

Here's my Garmin data, fyi. http://connect.garmin.com/player/16503561

PS: those two badass bridges are also on the run course. Short but steep. Don't worry about it, just be mentally prepared for it. And no shame in walking a short steep climb in an ironman.


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