TAN #29 The case of the disappearing TAN (Page 14)

2008-06-13 12:00 PM

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lisac957 - 2008-06-13 9:55 AM

Rynamite - 2008-06-13 11:48 AM

I LOVE a good wedding reception. I'm so looking forward to tomorrow night.

Refer to Wedding Crashers.

What do you guys think makes a good wedding reception? Not that I'm planning or anything... but I'm a girl so I think about these things. Is it the amount/quality of alcohol? Music? People in attendance? Or is it merely your own attitude going into it?

For me, it's the fun factor.....

I just don't like long sit downs with speeches and overly formal.

Give me some booze, a buffet line, and some good tunes......

When I did mine, we focused on the booze and entertainment. We had some Go-Go dancers we dressed up in sexy tux and wedding dress outfits, a great DJ that could do magic for the kids, open bar..... I playlist that we selected ourselves so we knew the music would be hot.....

I would have PREFERED to do the casual beach party with some friends or v-ball party, but there are two people to consider....

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2008-06-13 12:01 PM

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Aikidoman - 2008-06-13 12:00 PM

lisac957 - 2008-06-13 9:55 AM

Rynamite - 2008-06-13 11:48 AM

I LOVE a good wedding reception. I'm so looking forward to tomorrow night.

Refer to Wedding Crashers.

For me, it's the fun factor.....

I just don't like long sit downs with speeches and overly formal.

Give me some booze, a buffet line, and some good tunes......

I would have PREFERED to do the casual beach party with some friends or v-ball party, but there are two people to consider....

Oh yeah - and hot girls that have lost their inhibitions help a ton.

2008-06-13 12:03 PM

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2008-06-13 12:04 PM

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2008-06-13 12:16 PM

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Spokes - 2008-06-13 12:15 PM

our society places far more value upon success in sports, being 'first', than it does in people who accomplish big things in the worlds of music or academics.

Define "value". I have played team sports almost my whole life and never received much more than the joy of playing. No prestige, no money, most often no one watching except teammates and opponents.

Companies offer me tens of thousands of dollars a year to perform "academic" tasks for them.

I would think that a whole lot more people in this country make a lot more money due to academic success than they do from athletic success.

2008-06-13 12:18 PM

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2008-06-13 12:22 PM

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Rynamite - 2008-06-13 10:18 AM

chadtower - 2008-06-13 1:16 PM

Spokes - 2008-06-13 12:15 PM our society places far more value upon success in sports, being 'first', than it does in people who accomplish big things in the worlds of music or academics.

Define "value". I have played team sports almost my whole life and never received much more than the joy of playing. No prestige, no money, most often no one watching except teammates and opponents. Companies offer me tens of thousands of dollars a year to perform "academic" tasks for them. I would think that a whole lot more people in this country make a lot more money due to academic success than they do from athletic success.

More people make money for academic success... but there aren't many 'Academic' celebrities. Music, though... people worship good musicians all the time.

Those are both great points....

2008-06-13 12:22 PM

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Rynamite - 2008-06-13 1:18 PM

More people make money for academic success... but there aren't many 'Academic' celebrities. Music, though... people worship good musicians all the time.

That's why I asked him to define value.

Anyone who doesn't think people worship good musicians should watch women line up at the dressing room door for even a mediocre club band.

2008-06-13 12:24 PM

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Dammit, chainlove. Why are all of the men's shirts and jackets built for women shaped like a Barbie?

2008-06-13 12:25 PM

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chadtower - 2008-06-13 10:22 AM

Rynamite - 2008-06-13 1:18 PM More people make money for academic success... but there aren't many 'Academic' celebrities. Music, though... people worship good musicians all the time.

That's why I asked him to define value. Anyone who doesn't think people worship good musicians should watch women line up at the dressing room door for even a mediocre club band.

I'm going to have to save up these arguements for a couple people that are completely against sports.

"They give these guys millions just to play a game".

They are rare statistically speaking. Everyone else gets paid based on accedemics. Super points.

2008-06-13 12:29 PM

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2008-06-13 12:30 PM

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Aikidoman - 2008-06-13 1:25 PM

"They give these guys millions just to play a game".

They are rare statistically speaking. Everyone else gets paid based on accedemics. Super points.

Oh, that one is easy to refute, too. They don't give them millions to play a game. They give them millions to entertain people. They are no different than any other celebrities in that regard. No one seems to throw a fit when Will Smith makes $20mil a film.

That money comes from TV revenue, mostly. If they weren't putting forth a product watched by tens of millions of people they wouldn't be getting millions to be on TV.

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2008-06-13 12:32 PM

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chadtower - 2008-06-13 1:24 PM

Dammit, chainlove. Why are all of the men's shirts and jackets built for women shaped like a Barbie?

Motivation.

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2008-06-13 12:32 PM

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Aikidoman - 2008-06-13 12:25 PM

chadtower - 2008-06-13 10:22 AM

Rynamite - 2008-06-13 1:18 PM More people make money for academic success... but there aren't many 'Academic' celebrities. Music, though... people worship good musicians all the time.

That's why I asked him to define value. Anyone who doesn't think people worship good musicians should watch women line up at the dressing room door for even a mediocre club band.

I'm going to have to save up these arguements for a couple people that are completely against sports.

"They give these guys millions just to play a game".

They are rare statistically speaking. Everyone else gets paid based on accedemics. Super points.

I always say ... `Yeah but how many people can throw a ball 100 miles an hour. Or even 90?'

Or ... `Do you know how much the OWNER of the team makes? That'd be like if your boss was making $1 billion on your accomplishments and giving you $100,000 to do it. You probably wouldn't like that very much, now would you?'

2008-06-13 12:32 PM

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2008-06-13 12:33 PM

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Spokes - 2008-06-13 1:29 PM

Rynamite - 2008-06-13 10:18 AM

chadtower - 2008-06-13 1:16 PM

Spokes - 2008-06-13 12:15 PM our society places far more value upon success in sports, being 'first', than it does in people who accomplish big things in the worlds of music or academics.

Define "value". I have played team sports almost my whole life and never received much more than the joy of playing. No prestige, no money, most often no one watching except teammates and opponents. Companies offer me tens of thousands of dollars a year to perform "academic" tasks for them. I would think that a whole lot more people in this country make a lot more money due to academic success than they do from athletic success.

More people make money for academic success... but there aren't many 'Academic' celebrities. Music, though... people worship good musicians all the time.

I tend to think a lot of the authors who write various 'self-help' books are academic celebrities - Dr. Phil would be an example.

Good points.

_{(i've really got to get over my man-crush on you).}

Dr. Phil is not a celebrity due to academics he is a celebrity due to the cult of personality Ala Opra.

2008-06-13 12:33 PM

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2008-06-13 12:34 PM

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chadtower - 2008-06-13 10:30 AM

Aikidoman - 2008-06-13 1:25 PM "They give these guys millions just to play a game".

They are rare statistically speaking. Everyone else gets paid based on accedemics. Super points.

Oh, that one is easy to refute, too. They don't give them millions to play a game. They give them millions to entertain people. They are no different than any other celebrities in that regard. No one seems to throw a fit when Will Smith makes $20mil a film. That money comes from TV revenue, mostly. If they weren't putting forth a product watched by tens of millions of people they wouldn't be getting millions to be on TV.

Yeah, tried that, but the just say that movie stars shouldn't get paid that much either....

sigh......

2008-06-13 12:34 PM

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2008-06-13 12:35 PM

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Spokes - 2008-06-13 1:32 PM

In football, most of those guys aren't making millions a year. 100s of thousands, yes, but I've always thought the amount of physical damage you take during even the average short pro football career isn't worth it - and I'm a person that loves the violence of football, even though I've never played anything beyond backyard kill'um. I'm sure if an overtly cautious German eye doc hadn't banned me from contact sports in my teens, even if I tried out, I would have gotten my azz throughly kicked and quit.

And then there are idiots like me who continue to play it into their 30s with nothing on the line other than some pride. Trashing knees, enduring concussions, just because we love doing it.

2008-06-13 12:36 PM

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2008-06-13 12:36 PM

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Spokes - 2008-06-13 10:34 AM

trinnas - 2008-06-13 10:33 AM

Spokes - 2008-06-13 1:29 PM

Rynamite - 2008-06-13 10:18 AM

chadtower - 2008-06-13 1:16 PM

Spokes - 2008-06-13 12:15 PM our society places far more value upon success in sports, being 'first', than it does in people who accomplish big things in the worlds of music or academics.

Define "value". I have played team sports almost my whole life and never received much more than the joy of playing. No prestige, no money, most often no one watching except teammates and opponents. Companies offer me tens of thousands of dollars a year to perform "academic" tasks for them. I would think that a whole lot more people in this country make a lot more money due to academic success than they do from athletic success.

More people make money for academic success... but there aren't many 'Academic' celebrities. Music, though... people worship good musicians all the time.

I tend to think a lot of the authors who write various 'self-help' books are academic celebrities - Dr. Phil would be an example.

Good points.

_{(i've really got to get over my man-crush on you).}

Dr. Phil is not a celebrity due to academics he is a celebrity due to the cult of personality Ala Opra.

Stephen Hawking then. Dead ones would include Einstein, Sagan, Richard Feynman (who lectures on physics are still in print, whereas most of Sagan's stuff will be gone in another 10 years... he was a middling astronomer who was telegenic).

Man, Sagan was great. His Cosmos series was mega interesting when I was a "tot". He got me interested in astronomy and physics, which then led to my career, eventually.

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