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2011-04-11 10:12 AM
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Subject: RE: SWBKRUN MENTOR GROUP
fattyfatfat - 2011-04-11 10:43 AM

gdale - 2011-04-11 10:41 AM

well said.

Ok, that was a really freakin long post (by my standards, not by DJs standards) (edit - or by everlong's standards!).  Work computer is pi$$ing me off.

Short version - quads sore, arms??? sore.  Congrats to racers and super brick workout people.  Masters - YES!  Running motivation - with group, run/walk, change scenery, run trails.

Copying this post before I hit submit incase it doesn't show up!!!

George

 



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2011-04-11 10:28 AM
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Thanks everyone for the great advice!  I am trying to run without music since I understand it is not allowed at the races (why is that anyway?) and typically I run alone since I am so slow.  I will look into a running group.  what a good idea.  My running history is spoadic at best.  The most distance I have run is a 10k.  I am using a modifies BT plan with strength training added in  My last week's training and this week's training are below. This week is a recovery week.

April 4th

 

35-Swim

35-Run

46-Swim

94-Bike

46-Run

58-Swim

off

8h 26m

+10%

Strength

70-Bike

Strength

 

Strength

117-Bike

 

April 11

 

21-Swim

21-Run

28-Swim

28-Run

35-Swim

35-Run

6h 29m

-40%

Strength

42-Bike

Strength

56-Bike

Strength

70-Bike

 

 

 

2011-04-11 10:42 AM
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cherifortin - 2011-04-11 9:28 AM

Thanks everyone for the great advice!  I am trying to run without music since I understand it is not allowed at the races (why is that anyway?) and typically I run alone since I am so slow.  I will look into a running group.  what a good idea.  My running history is spoadic at best.  The most distance I have run is a 10k.  I am using a modifies BT plan with strength training added in  My last week's training and this week's training are below. This week is a recovery week.

April 4th

 

35-Swim

35-Run

46-Swim

94-Bike

46-Run

58-Swim

off

8h 26m

+10%

Strength

70-Bike

Strength

 

Strength

117-Bike

 

April 11

 

21-Swim

21-Run

28-Swim

28-Run

35-Swim

35-Run

6h 29m

-40%

Strength

42-Bike

Strength

56-Bike

Strength

70-Bike

 

 

 

Most running races allow headphones. Its the tri's that don't. Too much going on, plus you don't want them. Great way to interact with fellow sufffers on the run portion.

Honestly, I am not a runner either...I had never ever ran before 3 years ago. Do whatever it take right now to keep yourself motivated to get out there and run. Music/no music/Reward snacks/massages/run with your dog/friend. Running groups are great too. If you get in with a good group the leader can show you what you are doing right/wrong. etc.etc. One thing they really teach up here is 10's and 1's. Run 10 min, walk 1 min. Build up to that.

Running does not come easy. It's hard. And for those of us who are not natural runners, its something you need to keep up as you can lose it easy.

 I found swimming was easier to 'pick up'. Hard to get fast like Kylinda. We all know how to ride a bike, so that part is easy. Getting to be a better biker can be challenging, but for the most part its simple.

2011-04-11 10:48 AM
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cherifortin - 2011-04-11 11:28 AM

Thanks everyone for the great advice!  I am trying to run without music since I understand it is not allowed at the races (why is that anyway?) and typically I run alone since I am so slow.  I will look into a running group.  what a good idea.  My running history is spoadic at best.  The most distance I have run is a 10k.  I am using a modifies BT plan with strength training added in  My last week's training and this week's training are below. This week is a recovery week.

April 4th

 

35-Swim

35-Run

46-Swim

94-Bike

46-Run

58-Swim

off

8h 26m

+10%

Strength

70-Bike

Strength

 

Strength

117-Bike

 

April 11

 

21-Swim

21-Run

28-Swim

28-Run

35-Swim

35-Run

6h 29m

-40%

Strength

42-Bike

Strength

56-Bike

Strength

70-Bike

 

 

I wouldn't worry about training with music and not racing with it.  When racing there is always more to look at and think about than when you're training.

Also, with the plan, I know you are using the free plans but an option might be to either upgrade to bronze so you get a plan with a bit more detail or find some run workouts and adapt them to those times.

For me it helped to have a more structured workout vs. just running for time.

2011-04-11 10:51 AM
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tricrazy - 2011-04-11 9:52 AM Okay MG, I seemed to have misplaced my motivation.  Where do you usually find yours when it goes MIA?

John (Fatty) usually has it hidden somewhere ...... I just politely ask him for it back and the world comes back in balance.  Laughing

2011-04-11 11:04 AM
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tricrazy - 2011-04-11 7:52 AM Okay MG, I seemed to have misplaced my motivation.  Where do you usually find yours when it goes MIA?

In my bank account.

I joke that is why I enter races, but it's really true!! I enter races and then have something on the calendar to get me up and moving. When I don't have something to aim for, I find it really hard to self-motivate. Group workouts help, too... Make plans with someone and don't flake!!



2011-04-11 11:09 AM
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cherifortin - 2011-04-11 11:28 AM

Thanks everyone for the great advice!  I am trying to run without music since I understand it is not allowed at the races (why is that anyway?) and typically I run alone since I am so slow.  I will look into a running group.  what a good idea.  My running history is spoadic at best.  The most distance I have run is a 10k.  I am using a modifies BT plan with strength training added in  My last week's training and this week's training are below. This week is a recovery week.

April 4th

 

35-Swim

35-Run

46-Swim

94-Bike

46-Run

58-Swim

off

8h 26m

+10%

Strength

70-Bike

Strength

 

Strength

17-Bike

 

April 11

 

21-Swim

21-Run

28-Swim

28-Run

35-Swim

35-Run

6h 29m

-40%

Strength

42-Bike

Strength

56-Bike

Strength

70-Bike

 

 

 

that's a very smart move running without an ipod (or whatever is in your ears). 

  • as you mentioned, you can't race most (not all) triathlons with it, so why train with it.  train as you race whenever you can.   why? short answer is because its a rule.  long answer is for the safety and consideration of yourself AND other participants.  people seem to think the only safety issue with ipods is on the bike.  that's a crock of sh*t...
  • as trev pointed out you might be missing a pretty cool social aspect in training and racing.  
  • if you have a workout planned then you should focus on the workout.  the time for listening to lady gaga is not during a workout.  you should be listening to your body and that little voice (or voices) inside your head.  the exception to this may be the treadmill where pace is dictated by a machine, not you.  and the safety issues may be greatly reduced.


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2011-04-11 11:23 AM
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Subject: RE: SWBKRUN drinking tiger blood and closed

If you have an Android phone.

Check it out.

https://market.android.com/search?q=beginnertriathlete&so=1&c=apps

Be gentle with the reviews...



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2011-04-11 11:25 AM
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I would NEVER contemplate racing with tunes, but I can't imagine my solo runs without them!  Michael Franti's 'Say Hey' is what I start every run with...and part of my warm-up is a bit of bopping around to the beat down our big hill.  My neighbors expect it!

Seriously, though, whatever makes it work for you.  I'm a creature of habit, and part of my pacing on my regular runs is where I should be for which song....I ALWAYS pick up the pace for 'Born to Run' and "I would walk 500 miles' because those were my IM finish songs.  Silly, but it works.

Motivation?  I really want to place higher in my races....and that's what's keeping me going right now.  Big Sur was NOT A good call for me because of the hills.  Doing this one for the hubby.  No way this will be  BQ, and that's hard for me to get past.  So, I'm focusing on trying to finish higher in my AG.

Heading out for 5 zillion errands.  TTFN

2011-04-11 11:30 AM
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dalessit - 2011-04-11 12:23 PM

If you have an Android phone.

Check it out.

https://market.android.com/search?q=beginnertriathlete&so=1&c=apps

Be gentle with the reviews...

carbon background.  nice touch!  only you would do that..

2011-04-11 11:33 AM
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gdale - 2011-04-11 10:41 AM

 

George, This post you made has answered ALL of my questions!  Thanks Wink



2011-04-11 11:34 AM
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fattyfatfat - 2011-04-11 12:30 PM
dalessit - 2011-04-11 12:23 PM

If you have an Android phone.

Check it out.

https://market.android.com/search?q=beginnertriathlete&so=1&c=apps

Be gentle with the reviews...

carbon background.  nice touch!  only you would do that..

It's faster with the CF, I debated dimpling the background for even more speed but thought it might be too much.

2011-04-11 11:36 AM
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The MG is on a roll today. I have had work to do and when I got on line all of the answers I would have given have been stated and typed better then I could have. Even my joke response to gdale's non-post!

As far as motivation goes, my races are part of it for me, but over-riding all is my quest to bring out the best athlete I have inside of me. I have an idea where I can bring myself to if I work hard and smart enough. So I try to approach each WO as a stepping stone to that "me."



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2011-04-11 11:38 AM
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badgerintx - 2011-04-11 8:46 AM

I have decided based on my Saturday morning ride that its time for me to start working on finding a contract to ride for a professional bike team.  Any attorneys in the group looking for a client?  I need a good agent! 

Max Watts from the ride on my LYC showed 1999 watts, according to the download was it was actually like 3240 watts or something like that  ....   probably, time to change a hub battery!  The whole group got a good laugh out of this read-out!  

Can't get the damn picture to load, some sort of website issue....maybe later?!

I think those are some of those crazy Metric Watts! Ask one of the Canadians to convert them!

2011-04-11 11:39 AM
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I used to never run with music when training but when the runs got longer I needed something to listen to.  I make sure to keep it a volume where I can still hear everything around me and acknowledge people when they say "on your left" etc if I'm running on a trail. 

Nothing pi$$es me off when I have to get on the trail with my bike and I say on your left and people don't move an inch because their music is turned up so high they can't hear a thing.

Racing with music for me personally is a big no-no.  Just seems rude to ignore everyone around you, especially spectators who are cheering for you by not hearing a word they are saying.

2011-04-11 11:42 AM
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Hi all!!

Man I had so much catching up to do!! Last minute work travel sucks arse and I have been so behind in the MG and in training, looking to ease my way back into a dedicated routine this week during what is scheduled as a recovery week. I need to regain focus as my 1st race of the season is May 1st, it was the April 23rd but a surprise bday party for my Grandmother on the 22nd caused me to cancel(dont think i am skilled enough to race with 2 hours sleep and a hangover). I am looking forward to going through my 1st race season and the motivation from all in the MG especially SSMinnows happy friday inspires!!



2011-04-11 11:44 AM
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GrapeJuice - 2011-04-11 12:42 PM

Hi all!!

Man I had so much catching up to do!! Last minute work travel sucks arse and I have been so behind in the MG and in training, looking to ease my way back into a dedicated routine this week during what is scheduled as a recovery week. I need to regain focus as my 1st race of the season is May 1st, it was the April 23rd but a surprise bday party for my Grandmother on the 22nd caused me to cancel(dont think i am skilled enough to race with 2 hours sleep and a hangover). I am looking forward to going through my 1st race season and the motivation from all in the MG especially SSMinnows happy friday inspires!!

Sounds like your GRandmother has some great parties! Welcome back!

2011-04-11 11:54 AM
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GrapeJuice - 2011-04-11 12:42 PM

Hi all!!

Man I had so much catching up to do!! Last minute work travel sucks arse and I have been so behind in the MG and in training, looking to ease my way back into a dedicated routine this week during what is scheduled as a recovery week. I need to regain focus as my 1st race of the season is May 1st, it was the April 23rd but a surprise bday party for my Grandmother on the 22nd caused me to cancel (dont think i am skilled enough to race with 2 hours sleep and a hangover). I am looking forward to going through my 1st race season and the motivation from all in the MG especially SSMinnows happy friday inspires!!

the key is don't sleep and just keep drinking.  you'll be good.     good to see you back!!

2011-04-11 11:58 AM
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Holy workout!  I think I just burned like 800 calories on a 3.5 mile walk.  I took the neighbor's dogs with me and Nadie, so I had 3 dogs (mine, then a 9-month old Border Collie, and a 4-month old Lab), and it was nuts.  It was better than any lifting workout I've ever had, that's for sure!

2011-04-11 12:02 PM
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dalessit - 2011-04-11 12:39 PM

I used to never run with music when training but when the runs got longer I needed something to listen to.  I make sure to keep it a volume where I can still hear everything around me and acknowledge people when they say "on your left" etc if I'm running on a trail. 

Nothing pi$$es me off when I have to get on the trail with my bike and I say on your left and people don't move an inch because their music is turned up so high they can't hear a thing.

Racing with music for me personally is a big no-no.  Just seems rude to ignore everyone around you, especially spectators who are cheering for you by not hearing a word they are saying.

YES!!!!!!  well, i can't ride a bike on a trail yet, so for me its when i'm running and idiot is out there as you describe. 

its funny as its the long run nowadays where i really need to focus.  if i go out to fast, the last half (or longer) really really really sucks.  

2011-04-11 12:05 PM
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dalessit - 2011-04-11 9:23 AM

If you have an Android phone.

Check it out.

https://market.android.com/search?q=beginnertriathlete&so=1&c=apps

Be gentle with the reviews...

Where are the graphs???   Looks good,  I too like the CF background.



2011-04-11 12:08 PM
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cadmus - 2011-04-11 1:05 PM
dalessit - 2011-04-11 9:23 AM

If you have an Android phone.

Check it out.

https://market.android.com/search?q=beginnertriathlete&so=1&c=apps

Be gentle with the reviews...

Where are the graphs???   Looks good,  I too like the CF background.

Yeah totals and such were the one big thing everyone testing wanted but unlike the iPhone app, the Android one doesn't store any data on the phone other than your username/pwd if you want it to, so the info isn't there to calculate and the BT API doesn't provide those totals so couldn't get it.

Honestly I stole the CF background from looking at the iPhone app, I have no sense of design for user interfaces, I'm horrible at it, I can do lots of cool stuff in the background, but usually need help with the interface.

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jfought - 2011-04-11 10:33 AM

gdale - 2011-04-11 10:41 AM

 

George, This post you made has answered ALL of my questions!  Thanks Wink

You are TOTALLY going to fit in here Pam!!!



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DougRob - 2011-04-11 10:38 AM
badgerintx - 2011-04-11 8:46 AM

I have decided based on my Saturday morning ride that its time for me to start working on finding a contract to ride for a professional bike team.  Any attorneys in the group looking for a client?  I need a good agent! 

Max Watts from the ride on my LYC showed 1999 watts, according to the download was it was actually like 3240 watts or something like that  ....   probably, time to change a hub battery!  The whole group got a good laugh out of this read-out!  

Can't get the damn picture to load, some sort of website issue....maybe later?!

I think those are some of those crazy Metric Watts! Ask one of the Canadians to convert them!

I need to ask though if those Watts are in Celcius or Farenheit?

2011-04-11 3:32 PM
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Metric conversion talk killed the MG.
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