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2012-04-10 7:05 AM
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ukweeble - 2012-04-10 3:28 AM

Got a question for you all.

Just before Christmas, when i first decided that i would 'do a tri', I really hadn't thought or realised that there were so many different distances that could be done.

SO...When do you think you can call yourself a triathlete? On completion of any triathlon, regardless of distance? Once you have completed more than one triathlon and can therefore demonstrate some commitment to the sport or only when you have done one (or more than one) of the classic distance(s) and if so, what is a classic distance?

I ask this because my first tri is a sprint distance and when i first looked for a race to enter, i was surprised (and relieved) to find that such a thing existed because doing a 'big' tri seemed so daunting. Now i have been training for a bit, a sprint doesn't seem to be very hard and i feel that i am cheating myself if i call myself a triathlete after doing it.  Please dont read that last sentence as though i think i am good at this. My goal has simply been to finish a triathlon and ideally not come in last. I am just trying to say that i know i can do the distance now.

So, honest comments please as i value your opinions and your experiences, as most of you have 'been there and done that'.



My outlook may be a bit different then some others, but you did ask, so here goes. All of this should be proceeded by "I believe". You are a triathlete when you make the step. Not when you complete the race, but when you commit to the lifestyle, when you commit to the training, when you begin to look at life different than you did before. It is when you awake at 5:00 am to get in a training run, or when it is raining and you run anyway. When it is cold and you are on your bike. When you are putting a funny "cap" on your head before getting in the water. When you get home from a long day at work and decide that one hour on the trainer would be a good idea. When you put the baby in the stroller and head out the door. When you are deciding that a piece of fruit wins out over the piece of candy. When training has more appeal than the couch and TV. It is in any one of these moments when you are a triathlete. It is realizing you are not the best, but you are better today than yesterday. It is a concious decision that you have made, and when you have made it, you are a triathlete. And when you wonder if you are one, that is when you are one.

Or, is it when you are willing to go out in public wearing spandex or lycra?





2012-04-10 8:10 AM
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cdban66 - 2012-04-10 8:05 PM My outlook may be a bit different then some others, but you did ask, so here goes. All of this should be proceeded by "I believe". You are a triathlete when you make the step. Not when you complete the race, but when you commit to the lifestyle, when you commit to the training, when you begin to look at life different than you did before. It is when you awake at 5:00 am to get in a training run, or when it is raining and you run anyway. When it is cold and you are on your bike. When you are putting a funny "cap" on your head before getting in the water. When you get home from a long day at work and decide that one hour on the trainer would be a good idea. When you put the baby in the stroller and head out the door.

1) When you are deciding that a piece of fruit wins out over the piece of candy. When training has more appeal than the couch and TV. It is in any one of these moments when you are a triathlete. It is realizing you are not the best, but you are better today than yesterday. It is a concious decision that you have made, and when you have made it, you are a triathlete.

2) And when you wonder if you are one, that is when you are one.

3) Or, is it when you are willing to go out in public wearing spandex or lycra?

 

1) WHAT?!

2) I agree.

3) There are wearable fabrics other than spandex and lycra???

2012-04-10 8:19 AM
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cdban66 - 2012-04-10 8:05 AM When you are deciding that a piece of fruit wins out over the piece of candy.

I thought we did this so that we could have both?!

2012-04-10 8:27 AM
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I don't really tell people I'm a "triathlete" as this is just a hobby of mine.  I tell them that I participate in triathlons.  I don't think I would have to be "elite" or "pro" before I could call myself a triathlete but for me I think I would wait until I could be competitve in my AG or division.  But that's just a personal hang-up of mine and would apply for any of the triathlon distances.

That being said, I know some long distance triathletes that simply dread the sprint distances because of the amount of pain that you put yourself through.  Yes, it's much shorter, but they also tend to go all out from the first step.  They usually throw up at the end too.  So I would say that any triathlon is as hard or easy as you make it.

2012-04-10 8:33 AM
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ukweeble - 2012-04-10 3:28 AM

Got a question for you all.

Just before Christmas, when i first decided that i would 'do a tri', I really hadn't thought or realised that there were so many different distances that could be done.

SO...When do you think you can call yourself a triathlete? On completion of any triathlon, regardless of distance? Once you have completed more than one triathlon and can therefore demonstrate some commitment to the sport or only when you have done one (or more than one) of the classic distance(s) and if so, what is a classic distance?

I ask this because my first tri is a sprint distance and when i first looked for a race to enter, i was surprised (and relieved) to find that such a thing existed because doing a 'big' tri seemed so daunting. Now i have been training for a bit, a sprint doesn't seem to be very hard and i feel that i am cheating myself if i call myself a triathlete after doing it.  Please dont read that last sentence as though i think i am good at this. My goal has simply been to finish a triathlon and ideally not come in last. I am just trying to say that i know i can do the distance now.

So, honest comments please as i value your opinions and your experiences, as most of you have 'been there and done that'.

The way I see it is that you are a triathlete if you finish a triathlon.  Triathlons aren't just about the Ironman.  Some people never do an Ironman and that doesn't make them any less of a triathlete than someone who does.  

2012-04-10 8:35 AM
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cdban66 - 2012-04-10 8:05 AM  Or, is it when you are willing to go out in public wearing spandex or lycra?

You make it sound like it is not acceptable to wear running or biking clothes as though they are regular clothing.  

 

Not that I know anyone who does that....

::coughcough::

Or maybe it's just me?



2012-04-10 8:36 AM
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Badger Jen Moose! Another one! I know, they all look the same, but still.



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2012-04-10 8:40 AM
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jmkizer - 2012-04-10 9:19 AM

cdban66 - 2012-04-10 8:05 AM When you are deciding that a piece of fruit wins out over the piece of candy.

I thought we did this so that we could have both?!



Yeah, unfortunately the fight I am currently going through is the dreaded "Battle of the bulge". And there is a candy jar here at work that the ladies insist on filling. And I seem to be heading up the charge to empty it. Usually one, sometimes 2 or 3, pieces at a time. So for me, the choice is fruit vs candy right now in an effort to win the aforementioned battle. Now for the deep and philosophical part (please allow me).

When it is all said and done, for any of us to make the statement "I am a triathlete" is a personal one. For me it is not based on starting or completing a race, but where we are in our journey. And my current journey is going through friggin' Candyland. And I'm not happy about that. But, since it is the whole of the journey that matters, it is all OK. I'm in a better place than I was a few weeks ago, and a MUCH better place than a few years ago. And tomorrow will be better than today.

OK, I'm done with the standup philosopher part. Thanks
2012-04-10 8:42 AM
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I really like the definition that John Mora put in his book Triathlon 101, If you have done a triathlon in the last 365 days then you can call yourself a triathlete and if you complete a 140.6 then you are a triathlete for life.  If you have trained for a race and competed in it than you can read almost any post on this board and relate in some way to it and be able to share the misery of falling off the bike while still clipped in or celebrating the joy of someone hitting a new milestone in swim or run pace.

 

To me in the last year the term triathlete has morphed from a "what I am" am to a "who I am".  The brotherhood and comraderie of this sport along with the commitment to fitness and gains in health, is what makes the community.  Not many other sporting/racing events will you see competetors who have never met before help each other out change a flat tire or giving people a word of encouragment when they pass you.  The stories of people that get an extra C02 cannister at transition or a shivering ironman competetor who had to get pulled out of the race helping to find bikes and gear after the race because she was wearing a volunteer shirt is a more inspirational story than that of everything going just right and is more indicative of who triathletes are than what they did.

Getting ready for the last push for the Police Unity Tour this week a local print shop made and donated this flyer for our event on Friday I'm stoked so had to share:

 

Off to ride have a good day everyone!

2012-04-10 8:46 AM
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I can't even say why, exactly, but that whole post--including the beautiful poster (the man, and the sign ) brings tears to my eyes.
2012-04-10 8:53 AM
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My husband puts his foot down at wearing lycra & spandex to restaurants. (Damn him.) But I have recently managed to sneak in cottony tights (with hidden lycra) with tunics and call it fashionable. Ha.

Today is an off-day for me work-wise - no faculty meetings and no teaching. I'm sitting at my desk wearing track pants, a cotton sweatshirt and a ball-cap. Tres fashionable, no?

Thank god I don't have a job where I'd have to wear real clothes everyday...2-3 days a week about hits my limit.


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Tripopo - 2012-04-10 9:42 AM

...To me in the last year the term triathlete has morphed from a "what I am" am to a "who I am".  The brotherhood and comraderie of this sport along with the commitment to fitness and gains in health, is what makes the community.  Not many other sporting/racing events will you see competetors who have never met before help each other out change a flat tire or giving people a word of encouragment when they pass you.  The stories of people that get an extra C02 cannister at transition or a shivering ironman competetor who had to get pulled out of the race helping to find bikes and gear after the race because she was wearing a volunteer shirt is a more inspirational story than that of everything going just right and is more indicative of who triathletes are than what they did...



Awesome outlook, agreed 100%. And the ride flyer looks cool too. Enjoy the day.
2012-04-10 8:55 AM
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Knee suck morning. Tight when I woke up at 5 to run. Walked 5 minutes. Tried a little jog. Still tight. Walked the rest of a mile. Tried a little jog. Still tight. Ended up just walking.

Was supposed to hit a 3 mile run, but walked 2.6 instead. Disappointing.

I'm not sure if it is because it is morning; problem being that morning is a) the most convenient time to make sure I get my run in (at least until the semester ends) and b) when most races are scheduled. But my good run on Sunday was late afternoon, so there maybe something to this.

2012-04-10 8:58 AM
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Awesome flyer Kirk!!  I hope the event is wonderful, it certainly sounds like a lot of fun for a great cause.

I sort of wish I was training for a charity event (my 2 marathons were for Team in Training and the Pancreatic Cancer Action Network).  Someone asked me what charity I was raising money for with this upcoming May tri, and I had to say "nothing." I'm thinking that maybe when I get the balls to do a HIM then I will do it for PanCan (I just lost my dad to pancreatic cancer, its a really sucky disease with really sucky treatment options!).  But it's a lot of work to raise money on top of training for a long distance event!

And as for what makes you a triathlete...I think it's the committment to the training.  I feel like I am a triathlete and I haven't even done a race yet.  But putting in the time to train your body for 3 sports is INTENSE and not something a lot of people have the energy, commitment or (frankly) interest to do.  It is that combo that makes you a triathlete.  If you actually get out and race, then you are a kickazz triathlete!!

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2012-04-10 8:59 AM
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TriAya - 2012-04-10 9:46 AM

I can't even say why, exactly, but that whole post--including the beautiful poster (the man, and the sign ) brings tears to my eyes.


And the whole story of your journey has done the same for me on more than one occasion.
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cdban66 - 2012-04-10 9:59 PM
TriAya - 2012-04-10 9:46 AM I can't even say why, exactly, but that whole post--including the beautiful poster (the man, and the sign ) brings tears to my eyes.
And the whole story of your journey has done the same for me on more than one occasion.

Happy dog wiggle dance

I live a very, very blessed life, the best part of which is people like you in it, DubSix {MELON PRESS}

I just accidentally signed up for a half-marathon next weekend. I meant to sign up for the 10K, but the course sucked, and my disappointed-hand-droop then clicked the option under it.

I thought the whole mary might be a bit much, too. Maybe not the wisest kick-start to this next training season ...



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Way to go Yanti---weren't you supposed to be NOT doing anything strenuous for a bit? Oh well, go out there and have a great time!

School day for me, and it is a scheduled rest day too---though with the cold, its kinda been a rest week. My coach did say to not do ANYTHING if this cold is in my chest--which it is, though I am pretty sure it is mostly gone (never mind the fact that I have been awake since 3:30 AM because of non-stop coughing/hacking.).

I am still going to do my B-day race!!! This cold WILL be gone!!!!Yell It looks like the weather is supposed to be low seventies and clear too after lows in the fifties, definite plus.

2012-04-10 9:44 AM
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kgore - 2012-04-10 10:42 PM

Way to go Yanti---weren't you supposed to be NOT doing anything strenuous for a bit? Oh well, go out there and have a great time!

School day for me, and it is a scheduled rest day too---though with the cold, its kinda been a rest week. My coach did say to not do ANYTHING if this cold is in my chest--which it is, though I am pretty sure it is mostly gone (never mind the fact that I have been awake since 3:30 AM because of non-stop coughing/hacking.).

I am still going to do my B-day race!!! This cold WILL be gone!!!!Yell It looks like the weather is supposed to be low seventies and clear too after lows in the fifties, definite plus.

Yes. YES! And you never never know how much rest (for whatever reason) will benefit you, especially since you also have a physically demanding job.

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Too true...It definitely helped that I called in sick to work yesterday. After classes today, I have a major big plan of getting my bike all prepped/cleaned up, and sleeping...I am a busy Kate.Laughing
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TriAya - 2012-04-10 10:25 AM

cdban66 - 2012-04-10 9:59 PM
TriAya - 2012-04-10 9:46 AM I can't even say why, exactly, but that whole post--including the beautiful poster (the man, and the sign ) brings tears to my eyes.
And the whole story of your journey has done the same for me on more than one occasion.

Happy dog wiggle dance

I live a very, very blessed life, the best part of which is people like you in it, DubSix {MELON PRESS}

I just accidentally signed up for a half-marathon next weekend. I meant to sign up for the 10K, but the course sucked, and my disappointed-hand-droop then clicked the option under it.

I thought the whole mary might be a bit much, too. Maybe not the wisest kick-start to this next training season ...



Please be careful while you kick start. I HM'd my way to a month off from running, due to some knee wackiness. I overdid a short prep time before the race and the race Sucked. Yes, sucked with a capital "S". But, as has been shown to me time and again, there are many people (you among them) who are tougher then I'll ever be. I bow to you. Enjoy the race, it'll be fun, I'm sure.
2012-04-10 10:02 AM
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Today was kind of a bust, but not completely, I guess. My middle son and I were both feeling some . . . um . . . intestinal discomfort. So I spent most of the day in bed -- and actually slept a few hours.

But I finally was able to pull myself out of bed a little after 4:00 and ran 3.75 miles. I would have liked to get 6 in, but I was afraid to get too far from home.

I have my first tri this Saturday. The forecast, so far, is for low 60s, winds out of the south at 23 mph (!!!!), and scattered thunderstorms. I am not going to lose my nerve.

Good luck on your first tri!

~Pauline

Thanks. It's actually my first tri of this season. It will be my fourth, overall.



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KansasMom - 2012-04-10 11:02 AM

pdc33 - 2012-04-09 9:40 PM
KansasMom - 2012-04-09 8:20 PM

Today was kind of a bust, but not completely, I guess. My middle son and I were both feeling some . . . um . . . intestinal discomfort. So I spent most of the day in bed -- and actually slept a few hours.

But I finally was able to pull myself out of bed a little after 4:00 and ran 3.75 miles. I would have liked to get 6 in, but I was afraid to get too far from home.

I have my first tri this Saturday. The forecast, so far, is for low 60s, winds out of the south at 23 mph (!!!!), and scattered thunderstorms. I am not going to lose my nerve.

Good luck on your first tri!

~Pauline

Thanks. It's actually my first tri of this season. It will be my fourth, overall.



I'll be waiting to hear how awesome you do. I hope you are feeling better.
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cdban66 - 2012-04-10 10:59 PM
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cdban66 - 2012-04-10 9:59 PM
TriAya - 2012-04-10 9:46 AM I can't even say why, exactly, but that whole post--including the beautiful poster (the man, and the sign ) brings tears to my eyes.
And the whole story of your journey has done the same for me on more than one occasion.

Happy dog wiggle dance

I live a very, very blessed life, the best part of which is people like you in it, DubSix {MELON PRESS}

I just accidentally signed up for a half-marathon next weekend. I meant to sign up for the 10K, but the course sucked, and my disappointed-hand-droop then clicked the option under it.

I thought the whole mary might be a bit much, too. Maybe not the wisest kick-start to this next training season ...

Please be careful while you kick start. I HM'd my way to a month off from running, due to some knee wackiness. I overdid a short prep time before the race and the race Sucked. Yes, sucked with a capital "S". But, as has been shown to me time and again, there are many people (you among them) who are tougher then I'll ever be. I bow to you. Enjoy the race, it'll be fun, I'm sure.

The people who aren't as classy and polite as you are generally use the word "stupid."

I can't possibly overdo the prep time as there won't be any. Hah! I haven't run in a month. However, I plan to start out very slowly ... and fade to the end. Seriously. I'm going to do a 1:1 run/walk and then maybe, IF I feel like it, switch to a 2:1. It is a sightseeing tour.

I've done a good handful of marathons on much less. The trick for me really is to go slow, do a lot of walking, and not forget that a half is still pretty darn far!

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Good morning, all.

Great poster -- but 7 miles in 90 minutes?? Exactly when are the riders starting to drink the beer?? Wink

I get uncomfortable when people call me a triathlete. And I don't know why. I don't mind being called a runner. If I played summer softball, I wouldn't mind being called a ball player. When I golfed, I didn't mind being called a duffer . . . oh, wait a minute.

But when I hear "triathlete," I think of some of the awesome men and women on this site; I think of Crissie, Crowie, Rinny, (Not Lance). I don't know why the difference, except that triathlon always seemed like an unattainable object. I am becoming more competent, however (600m swim in 14 minutes this morning -- takes a bow). Still.

Charity -- I have always wondered about this. What does it mean exactly, to "race for charity." Maybe I'm showing great ignorance, but the only thing I think of is when I used to do the March of Dimes walk when I was a kid, and we went door to door looking for sponsors "per mile" or something. But I'm thinking that's probably not how it's done when you're an adult?

My knee is feeling fantastic -- thanks for all of you who have asked. My intestinal issues also seemed to have . . . um . . . dried up, so to speak. So the swim felt great this morning. I would love to get in a short brick this afternoon -- 10 miles cycling and 2 miles running -- but I have a nasty report that needs to be done. If I get it done, I could use the brick as a reward. Innocent

Oh, and I just found out today that one of our former students is slated to run the Leadville 100 this year. That excites me sooo much.

I hope everyone has a terrific day.

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TriAya - 2012-04-10 9:25 AM

I just accidentally signed up for a half-marathon next weekend. I meant to sign up for the 10K, but the course sucked, and my disappointed-hand-droop then clicked the option under it.

I thought the whole mary might be a bit much, too. Maybe not the wisest kick-start to this next training season ...

I think this is great. I did my first (and only, so far) half marathon on just sprint tri training. My longest run to that point had been 6-7 miles, I think. I planned to do the first three miles at 13 minute mile pace, walk the water stops, with a goal of an overall average of about 12 minute miles. I got pretty close to that, finishing in 2:45 (and that included a five minute family visit/potty stop at about mile 6).

I'm going to actually train for the next one, and I hope to come in at about 2:20 - 2:30.

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