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I think I am in the same boat as DJ with this, kind of the patting top of head, rubbing belly thing, where even thinking about the kick makes everything else really hard to concentrate on.  Haven't had a lesson in awhile, but my teacher told me my kick is actually okay...i think it is a 6 beat, but one thing she wants me to think about is using my hamstrings and not my quads (which she calls bully muscles) when kicking.  Kinda like scraping poop off the bottom of your shoes is how she explained it.  Again, I find this hard to do, but am working on it.

I already take very short strides. I'm also very slow - I could be wrong, but I don't think what I run is really considered running, but instead just jogging. 

Is it my weight issue?

Ok, I'm really off to do a brick now. 

looking down at the bottom of the pool will *possibly* raise your hips in the water, but it will ruin your form - it completely screws up your posture, and decreases your rotation - it will make you slower. The key is proper posture, it will push your chest into the water, raise your hips *AND* let you rotate. If done correctly, your head will be wherever it is most comfortable, from looking about 45* forward to almost 90* forward. Don't worry so much about your head position, worry more about your shoulders, more specifically, your scapula. Practice scapula retraction drills (YTWL). Practice swimming with your scapula retracted (heads up drill). Practice walking, sitting, running, driving, cycling, showering with retracted scapula. Most importantly, practice sitting in front of a computer with a retracted scapula - this is why your scapula live life rotated from your centerline anyways...

Does everyone know what I meant by YTWL drills? Do I need to record a short video to demonstrate (I can do so if needed)?

If I really stop and think about the kick, I picture it coming more from the hips (i.e. where your leg connects up at the top), and being more flowing. Lots of people also seem to kick from their knees and sort-of "pound" the water thump-thump-thump, or do a bicycle motion. If you think of your legs/feet as fins (like a fish), it's much more fluid. I don't know if I'm making sense at all -- I'm trying to articulate the "feeling" of kicking... 

imfl last year. 2nd in her a/g out of the water.  40th female.  209 overall.  oh i dunno *coach*.  hasn't seemed to ruin linda's form. 

There are always exceptions to the rule, again, as I said, it's not about the head position - don't use the head position to force your hips up. Use your posture, push your chest into the water to get proper body position - let your head be where it feels most comfortable. If your head happens to be most comfortable looking down (I've never seen this with proper form, but it is possible) this is fine. The point is, don't make your head force your body into position, learn proper form to do so.

  Do I need to record a short video to demonstrate (I can do so if needed)?

LOL Rob! Next time you run everyone can just call you Mr. Coin Dispenser

Man....I just did the brick from h*ll. To make a long story short, hubby was riding with me on the cycle portion. It's really busy around the lake today since its a nice day. The bike trail winds through through the street at times. The first intersection is on an incline. A really old lady driving a car didn't notice she had the EFFING right of way, so she kept slowing down then accelerating then slowing down....by the time I realized I was going to have to stop because she was jellying, I was going really slow and on an incline. Got my right foot out of my pedal, but no go on the left because I had already lost my balance. That's cool because I've fallen over before and it didn't hurt, BUT my husband decided at the very moment the old lady and I were playing chicken to speed-up and pull up next to me. So when I fell over, I fell over onto his front wheel and the knob on his wheel axle (don't know the correct terminology) caught me square in the right kidney.  Oh Lord in Heaven that hurt - I think I almost passed out. All I can remember is screaming out in pain and my husband freaking out. I laid there for a couple of minutes while he calmed me down. He lifted my shirt in back and I've got a huge bruise. His front wheel is totally fubar.

So I was just crying and walking around trying to get rid of the pain. Blood running down my leg - there were quite a few people staring at me. I felt like just giving up and going home. But then I thought "Hey....HTFU and get on your bike and train!" So after a quick check to make sure my bike was OK,  I got on my bike and rode 12 miles and then ran two miles. My back felt fine on the bike, but once I started running, I could feel the injury in my back and it radiated through my body into the front of my belly. Felt almost like a side stitch, but worse. I wonder if I should go to the doctor?

Does anyone else have trouble getting your left foot out of the Keo Looks? My right comes out just fine, but the darn left one is difficult at times. Is there something I can do to make it easier???


 

Yup I am a Badger through and through.  Played at Wisconsin during the seasons in 86-87 and 87-88, ironically my recruiting class won the whole thing in '90, by then I had figured out that there was no way I was gonna make the show, so I went to school to get a degree.  I was a 4th or 5th liner my entire time there....(for those that don't understand that, it means I sat on the bench most of the time when I actually got to get dressed for the game)... because I was a speed guy at 6'0 feet 190 lbs and the WCHA has mostly size and power game now.  3 hours of skating for 20+ years everyday did wonders for my legs and my anaerobic threshold which has transfered very nicely to the bike.  I am running about 175 lbs now.      

The RPI vs Wisconsin game on Thursday night was an interesting watch.  I missed the final last night because we were on the road home but it sounds like my Badgers got schooled by BC.   ?? 
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back from the 10k....Big PB for me. 52:3X was offically chipped. So going according to Mr. garmin.
Will do a RR later. Lets just say i didnt think I could hold it, but I did. Amazing what your body can do when your mind shuts it off.

great job man.  i read your post yesterday and was hoping to lay down a pr on the backside today.  not even close. so i'm really glad one of us did! the highlight of my day was hanging out with andy on the boat ride out to the start.  then talking sh+t to matty reed about drinking a coke instead of a beer.  no i'm not kidding.  i really was.  see.  tremendous guy.  so was andy potts.  everything in between the boat ride and the sh=t talk was just awful. worst race yet. rr later.









Edited by fattyfatfat 2010-04-11 4:47 PM

Do you mean blown over?  If so it does help a bit leaning into the wind.  Might just take some time to get used to.

For me I haven't really been concerned with swimming much this year.  There is just so much more time to be gained with a faster ride and run.  Obviously I still want to get faster in the water but for now, maintaining and not getting completely blown out of the water in my AG works for me, usually MOP on swim, when I get to FOP bike and run then I'll go back and focus on the swim.

Yeah I guess all of us Lonestar bound should have just had our biggest week and it's all down hill from here, woo hoo!

Edited by dalessit 2010-04-11 5:15 PM

Did you ask him about his new cycling coach : )

I certainly hope so. My poor back is killing me. I think I'm going to cry again.

Training Question: If I'm just doing the sprint distance at Lonestar, do I really need to taper? Suggestions/advice?

Edited by kickitinok 2010-04-11 5:20 PM

Given your spill and your aching back do you really need to ask?   Seriously, Trina the last 10 days before a race you aren't going to get a signfiicant benefit for the race so why risk it?  Keep the intensity, but reduce volume.  Health trumps a :02 second gain in S/B or R.

Kind of nervous about answering this, but I'll give it my best.  I typically use a two beat kick - but let me clarify this by saying I am a distance person more than a sprinter.  Sprinters tend to use a six beat.  The six beat kick tires me more, and for a distance race I don't want to come out of the water with my legs shot.   Suzy, you probably are kicking but you just are focusing more on your upper body and aren't noticing your legs 

Awesome Trevor!

Trina - I would rest a bit for Lonestar....whatever the distance.  Remember you're going the race distance, and then have to survive the mg party.

I dont have a code... but speaking of infinit...

Is there a special trick to not getting it to foam up when you are mixing it with water?