Survivor Caramoan (will be spoilers) (Page 16)

I see your crazy and raise you Gary Busey

Still in the middle of the show- we DVRed but- Eddie is cracking me up!!! Hes got my vote!!

"If I win the million I am going to open a dog kennel/play-yard/bar"

Love it!!

Cochran was perfect.  Very deserving of the win.

Now, Brenda...Brenda, Brenda, Brenda.  I was disgusted by her request of Dawn at the final tribal.  That was disgusting.  I wish Dawn had the backbone to stand up for herself and say "sorry dear, no, if you'd like to see me without teeth, just tune in to the season, it's right there."  How sick was that?  It's a game.  But Dawn responded in a manner that I'd expect from Meg Griffin on Family Guy.  She never should have lowered herself to that kind of request.  Just an uncomfortable minute or two there.  Yuck.  I could care less about the teeth being out, but it was evident Dawn didn't want to do it, and it was clear Brenda wanted to humiliate her...yuck.

btw, Survivor's finale show is 9 months after the season is done taping?  Is there any chance she was pregnant on the show?  Just curious.  If so, it would be just another reason I am not a fan of hers.

Boston Rob's shameless promotion killed the nice feeling I had for him being nice to Phillip.  Yuck.

How nervous did Malcolm look in that soap opera clip?  That said, he was deserving of the $100,000.

Good season.  

I am going to have to watch ALL of it over...about 30' into the first show a friend stopped by to chit chat so I was "watching" and I know what happened but I missed ALL of the action....ALL of it.

Yeah, I was MAD surprised that Brenda is nearly 9 months pregnant?  I really don't know how she could have been pregnant ON the show...I mean, you cannot put your body through what they put their bodies through and not miscarried.  Plus I would think you would need a month or so for your body to recover and start ovulating again.  though, perhaps that was her "mistake".  She probably figured she didn't have a period so it didn't matter and didn't use protection and POOF...baby.  Did she ever even mention a boyfriend?

Otherwise, YAY Cochran...of those final four he really deserved it.  SO sad for Erik.  Need to watch the shows thorough to be able to comment more....

I get what Branda's point was with Dawn. And ya, she got her answer when Dawn tried to avoid it. But in a weird way... if Dawn was that freaked out by it, it has to be a wee bit liberating to know the entire country saw it and it is just is nothing to big deal anymore.

And to be fair, the teeth happened long before Dawn voted her out. Brenda was certainly a threat... I just thought is was rough to vote her out THAT vote. She gave the most people food, and Eddie was the easy vote, and then let's all duke it out. Dawn did owe her that at least because of the teeth. Once again we see... just like Coach... yes you might have made it to the end... but you just gave away your chance to win.

Eric, are you kidding me? I mean he was out of it, and I know he was beat and not thinking right... but pull me from the game... what, wait... just give me an IV... put me back in the game, I'll be  fine.... wow, how rough is that, #5 got him again. Eric was the key player. He could have won it. And if they had to go to tribal again... Cochran's name most certainly HAD to come up... but that never happened, and he won a HUGE advantage and final immunity. Eric leaving, most certainly effected who was final 3.

I was really pulling for Eddie... I mean come on... dogs, a bar, and a fire fighter... what's not to like? If he was sitting next to Cochran, I still think Cochran would have won... but it would be close I think.

Dawn, ya, not buying it. Sorry... no. She was really delusional with what her game was... as would I be... but no.

Who is this Sherri they keep mentioning.... probably the only player that made it to final 3 that was more delusional than Dawn. Sorry kid, you most certainly did stuff to make it to final 3.... but you didn't do a darn thing to win.

Cochran... he deserved it. He did play a good game. He managed to thread the needle and walk that tight rope. Won challenges, and allowed someone else to take the fall. I can't say I was pulling for him, but he certainly deserved it... winner by unanimous decision.

Powerman, good call on Eddie, seemed like a nice guy...but Cochran totally deserved the win.  Eddie had this great "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" vibe to him, especially after the bar/petsitter business" idea.  

Jdicarlo, I am glad I'm not the only one to find Brenda's news a bit disturbing.  If she was pregnant on that show, I would lose any respect I even had for her prior to her spiteful/humiliating treatment of Dawn tonight.  (all Dawn had to say was, "it's a game. you were a huge threat. period.")  Could there possibly have been 8 1/2 months transpired since the end of the Caramoan taping???  Folks here have to know...I've got no clue.  Beans/rice/borderline starvation, a few challenges that included sheep brain?  Unreal. 

btw, I love the Erik guy as a person.  seems like a gentle soul...but how could he possibly get enough votes to win?  Super nice guy, but he kinda drifted along like Sherri.

btw. one more piece of advice Cochran could have given for doing well on Survivor?  Play it two times like me.     He was miles ahead of Dawn in the communication department.  Good stuff tonight.

Rudy was a bit schticky, but he is hilarious, and he looks dang good for 85!

Well you all know I have been a Cochran fan for 2 seasons so this was one of the most gratifying wins for me to watch.  I was on  the edge of my seat watching the challenges and cheering like my DH does when he watches sports! He handled the jury questions perfectly - especially Malcolm. Just stroke his ego a little and he sits down completely satisfied.

Brenda, none of my business when she got pregnant. I have a friend who got pregnant while she was on the pill, another while she was having her monthly, my 2 sisters at the age of 39 & 42 when they had long ago packed up the baby stuff. My point being surprises happen. It looks like she is engaged, the timeline is all just a guess.  The teeth thing was very strange all around - from the time the teeth fell in the water and Dawn started bawling to the point when Brenda demanded she take them out. Uncomfortable.

I think the jury was kind of immature with all the giggling at Sheri during the questions. So she was just a pawn, so what. Why the need to rub it in and laugh at her? Taking away her SRU membership, Eric hammering her, all the snickering - it all just seemed pointless and mean.

Eric - I thought they pulled him, did I misunderstand? I thought they asked him would you want to continue if you could and he said yes but the doc said sorry, no.

Really fun season!!

Good season.  One of the best in a long time.  Cochran was the only one deserving of the win in my book.  I hate it for Eric that he got pulled and his body shut down with 3 days to go. 

Eddie:   Dog/bar that my friend is genius.  Call me we can make this happen.

Brenda: Wrong of you to ask Dawn to take her teeth out.  It's a game but it doesn't have to go down like that. Then she does what you ask and you didn't vote for her?

Rudy: WTF old man?  Did you seriously use the word "queer" 3 times?

Hatch: Did we really need to see you naked again?

It kind of sucked for the pre-jury members to not even get to talk on the finale.  There are always some dumb questions for the person that went out first, again.

I think Dawn's big flaw in her pitch to the jury wasn't only the way she was perceived to cut everyone's throat but that she never owned it.  If you are going to say you played a strategic game with Cochran then own it. 

I do think it's crazy how much she has been cyber-bullied.  I tried to follow her on Twitter like many of the other contestants and hers is shut down.  It's a game and anyone with an internet connection can now try to make her feel threatened.  That's just crossing a line.  You may disagree with the way she played the game.  Well, she didn't win the game so hopefully that will make the bullies back off a little.

I felt bad for Sherri.  Stone cold fox pretty much got made fun of at the last tribal.  It's one thing to not vote for someone but be cool.  I wonder if the producers can see the writing on the wall and tell the jury to call the odd man out like Penner did last season.  She was not nearly as good at making her case as I thought she would be.  Then again, it's hard to beat Cochran.  Maybe the most well spoken person in Survivor history.  Great talker just for the Julia "vanilla" comment alone.

So next season is shark week with no cage?

I think I have next season figured out. The guess of sharks and pirana and 3 tribes are wrong according to Jeff. The scenes and works are "blood and water." it is going to be relatives playing and probably on different tribes.

Sherri could have done a lot better at tribal. How about: I am the only fan left I watched my fellow fans get targeted one-by-one, I deliberately kept a low profile. I did not have a favorites advantage of having played before. I convinced Dawn and Cochrane I was no threat which is how I outwiutted them. TO those who are laughing, I saw your fire get snuffed. Mine wasn't, what is so funny about that?

Dawn could have said the crying was an act to deflect focus on her strategy. 

They had too. It should have been an immunity challenge and someone would have been voted out. but theyy already lost one and did a double elimination so they had no spares. what good would a reward challenge been like for food? But even still, it was a HUGE advantage and it just seemed wrong for a million dollars. The puzzle did not look that easy and Dawn might have won if Cochran didn't have the time advantage.

If two council votes went down and Cochran did not win both immunities.... no way he is sitting in final 3.

If you are asking because what I said... ya, you didn't miss anything. Doc pulled him. But they were also asking him questions and he was not putting up a fight or giving them confidence he was going to turn around. Not at all a criticisim of him. He was whooped... I'm just saying, nobody wants to get pulled, and I think I would have been begging to continue even if I couldn't. Again, not making any judgment about Eric... real tough break. He was pretty lean coming into the game... you need to some fat to get through 39 days.

Brenda made it uncomfortable because it went on so long back and forth. she got her answer the second she didn't do it. I get it, she felt hurt, and she wanted to cause some. Big picture... ya, it's a game. But that was also a wierd thing... like Jeff said... it seemed like she was vullnerable, Brenda put aside the game, and helped her... and in Brenda's mind, Dawn was going home unless Brenda stapped in and found her teeth. So in Brenda's mind, Dawn was their by her grace... but it is a game.

Regardless... I was actually cool with the fan prize coming down to Brenda and Malcolm... and really happy Malcolm finally won some money. He was a great player.

I watched this season and I have to be amazed at how people act after 39 days.  There are a lot of military men and women who far exceed that under much more intense conditions.  To the credit of those on the show, it appears their nutrition may be the biggest difference as they do not get to enjoy the wonders of the MRE.

I'm glad Cochran won but I believe the world suffered a great loss never getting to see Eddy's vision of the dog bar.  I will wear my zipper at half mast until lunchtime as a result of the sadness.

As for the Brenda / Dawn scene... it was just Brenda taking it personally but in fairness, her decision for the 4 that got to eat with their families was personal.  Her decision to help Dawn with her teeth was personal.  Didn't Brenda also do something similar earlier in the season when they did the auction?  I think she just had enough and wanted to flip the cards.  It was pointless and probably didn't make her feel any better but I think she was just standing up to the notion of not being appreciated.  I think Cochran's response to her was spot on and appropriate.  There are personal feelings and the game.  She didn't understand the game portion and you don't put nutrients into your fellow competitors just before the final run.  I would have taken Cochran to the boat with me.  I would have loaded up on water and carbs feeling as if it would give me a physical edge in the upcoming challenges. 

I was glad Cochran won out the three that were left. I would have preferred to see Eddie stick around and win, but I sure did not want Cheri or Dawn to win.

Only gripe I have about Cochran is him talking about how great he did at challenges! granted he was much stronger than the last time, but he did get significant advantages in 2 of the challenges he won. Without those advantages, I seriously doubt he would have won! So there was some luck involved with those 2 wins.

but he won to get those advantages, so that counts. He's right, timing had everything to do with it for him this season. 

He won the reward challenge and that set him up for the final win.  He still had to climb the stairs and build the puzzle.  I agree about the other ones... one was an eating challenge, impressive win but not physical.  The other one he got an advantage to win.  A win is a win but I see your point.  He won when he had to at the end and that is a big deal.   This game is all about timing.  I think Cochran said it a few time in the finale and he's dead on.

I'm with you... a "W" is a "W", but the way he won does not get "challenge" beast attached to it. Boston Rob, Ozzy, .. ehh Malcolm... great at challenges... Cochran... eeks out a eating challenge with Malcolm a 1/10th of a second behind. Next was a gimme. He WON the card stack, and he had a HUGE advantage with the puzzle... but I won't call it a gimme like the knot challenge.

Yes he won, he should be proud. He deserved his win... he just might want to tone down the bragging on the challenges... He even said that at tribal... he was like top 10 challenge winners... ehhh.

Ya.. it's a trip. Maybe not as easy seeing it from the couch. No sleep and no food... I'm not going to be much fun to be around... but it is temporary. I'ts a game. You vollunteered for it. You knew what you were signing up for... oh ya, and it's temporary.

But war is actually life and death, and I'm sure that get's your head in the game quick... and it's not temporary, and it's not a game. Conditions may be a lot worse, but so are reasons and consequences. So I can see the difference and how some people react. Some people that would sign up for Survivor... would not sign up for war. And you can teach a 18 year old to take anything pretty much.

But yes, I have been through a lot worse (I think), and to me it would be a pretty awesome adventure to go through. I would love to be put "there" and see how I do.

This may sound like a dumb question because I've really never watched this show until last night when my mom the Survivor lover was in town.  Of course we told her we'd watch her show with her for mom's day 

So it looks like there were an even number of people on the jury.  What happens if there's a tie between two players?

And was there supposed to be a second place winner?  If so, does that prize go unclaimed since Cochran got every vote?

First... not a big fan of reality shows. My MIL loved Survivor and I thought it was stupid... until I watched a season. By far, the best at it's type of show. Great game. Best ever game show.

There are 9 people on the jury.

There are indeed 2nd and third... not sure what they do if winner is unanimous. Usually, second will get some votes, and the third does not get any. Not sure what they do if the other two do not get any votes.

They do not announce 2nd and 3rd... but unofficially, there is prize money alloted to the places.

Decent season.  A couple bullet points.

• It's funny how we (me) think what looks good is what we are "used" to.  I'm used to people looking thin, then see them all filled out at the reunion and don't find it as appealing.  Sherri what the only one that probably looked a bit better.
• I give Sherri credit for at least standing up to Eric.  She didn't have a chance, so at least good on her for not just taking the beating.  Yeah, she rode coat tails.  Maybe not respectable, but it was HER game.  At least Phillip of all people gave her credit.  They can get made at doing "nothing" but doing "nothing" is a strategy and has gotten other people far.
• Dawn just makes me sick - and continued to do so.
• Phillip was the most surprising with how gracious he was, but his SRU crap still makes me gag.
• Why did they wasted so much show on the first season folks?  Stupid.  As soon as I heard "queer" I fast forwarded to get past him and Richard.
• As soon as Boston Rob started plugging his book?  I fast forwarded - lost respect.
• As soon as they questioned the little girl about Malcom?  I fast forwarded.
• Brenda?  Classless move with the teeth and weird on the pregnancy.  Lost respect.
• I always wish they would bring up some of the comments made on the show and call them out, but I guess you don't want to make people TOO uncomfortable on the show.
• Cochran have one of the most eloquent opening statement and answers to questions I have ever hear.  Even the stupid "what kind of animal" response was absolutely perfect and could have sealed the deal, if it wasn't already.  The jury at it up.
• In general, happy for Cochran.  Not sure about the move to give up law?  I hope a "little bit of fame" doesn't go to his head.  At least he said writing and not acting or hosting or something.  Writing is reasonable.