'The' Gun Thread (Page 16)

And now another 360,000 hollow point rounds...

http://www.infowars.com/dhs-to-buy-360000-more-rounds-of-hollow-point-ammunition/

Screw the tin foil hat.  I'm looking for body armor.

Let me know if you want a link to a group buy.  NIJIII with coating to contain fragmentation, and they can add in side plates.

PM me the info and/or link. Possibly...

Will do.. I'll send it over tonight.  I can't get on that site from work.  I got uncoated plates and now I wish I would have picked up the coated with side plates.  They look nice.

The only thing I took from the article was that white people shoot themselves and black people don't...

M1A and Benelli have both shipped.  Hopefully I'll have them by this weekend.

Now, BTers, settle an argument between CINCHouse and me:

How many guns constitutes an "arsenal"?

Congrats on the M1A!  I have a Garand an a Carbine so I need an M1A as well.

As for the arsenal, I was asked by a friend, how many I own.  I thought for a second, started writing things down and honestly, I couldn't remember them all.  He said I qualify.  I disagree of course but I've seen reporter call a bolt action .22lr, a 12 gauge and a 9mm an arsenal.  I have nothing against minimalists but I don't think they deserve that title.

I could arm a bit over 50 people fairly well......they'd have to bring ammo if they want to be in the fight......I don't have any for at least 75% of my guns.  Come to think of it, I haven't even looked at most of them in years.

I had a buddy over last summer who wanted to see an old 1911 I have.  He looked at it and then pointed to another pistol case and asked what was in there.  When I opened it there was a .357 revolver that I didn't remember I had.  It came from my Grandpa when he left his guns to me....that day was the first day I ever held it.

FBI crime statistics for 2011 came out.  2.2% of all Homicides committed with a rifle.  The "assault weapon" (whatever that is) constitutes a portion of the rifle category, so estimates are that only about 1% of homicides committed by "assault weapons"

Putting that into context, 2 times as many homicides are committed using "hands or feet" and 7 times as many homicides are committed using "knives"

THese statistics are pretty consistent with the stats from previous years.

But hey...according to the liberal left...these "assault weapons" are the scourge of mankind and their only use is for criminal conduct.

(but the left is interested in a "rational" debate on the gun control issue)

P.S.

Anyone notice that the language of the debate has been changed yet again.  The left is now using the phrase "gun safety" instead of "gun control"  They are now "gun safety" legislation. Control language and you control thought.

Hmmmm One more than I have! 

I think an arsenal is when you have more guns than you or your family can carry effectively at once. 

My wife and I have 6 rifles and 4 handguns between the two of us, so I suppose that could be considered an arsenal.

But I subscribe to the N+1 formula. 

Got a 1911, a Desert Eagle and a nice shotgun on the list right now. 

Seriously! I'm not a fan of the cams but definitely on the life imprisonment for violent criminals!  

A memo from CeasefirePA called out to always use the word "violence" after the word "gun."  As you point out, it's all about controlling the language.  After that, I realized just how much at media blitz did just that.  It's no longer about violent criminals and what we can do about it.  The agenda is crystal clear.

I'm in pretty good shape on ammo.  Just as you discovered a firearm that you forgot you had, I recently found 585 rds of ammo that I no longer had a firearm which would shoot it.  It sold quickly since it is not very plentiful at the moment.

Hunters can buy by the 20rd box but shooters buy by the case and it scares non-gun owners since they don't understand how quickly you can go through rounds.  A typical Appleseed shoot can require 500rds in one afternoon.  If you are and IDPA shooter, you better have a few thousand on hand and be ready to reload your own.

New brass arrived today. Time to fire up the casting pot for the wife's AK.

One can never have enough ammo

;-(  I have a lot of components sitting here (brass, bullets and primers) but I cannot seem to get powder for 9mm and .40 cal.  I was able to order 3lb from Midway and when it never arrived I followed up.  I found that it was on a 14wk backorder. 

Comparing England (or UK) murder rates with the US: More complex than you thought

I found this article interesting.  I know there's been a lot of comparison to the US murder rate with the UK.  Typically in the context of the UK being much safer than the US due to their strict gun control.