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2011-05-06 10:56 AM
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sand101 - 2011-05-05 9:22 PM  To answer Robert:

No wetsuits allowed.  Way too warm for that, anyway.  This year might be a bit chillier water, but I'd welcome that.  To add:  Water in Pensacola Bay is already 77F.  No way you want to be in a rubber suit in that:  http://www.dep.state.fl.us/northwest/Ecosys/waterquality/outlook.ht... one else joining us that I know of.  I had someone that wanted to race, but family issues got in his way.

The link is what I was looking for! Bring on the 77* water. Our pool is closer to 83*-85* right now.

Plus, I don't own a wetsuit.



2011-05-06 11:02 AM
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Titleloops: your weight loss has found me. I've picked up 4# this week and I'm not happy!!

On a gloating note, I managed to hit a 1:11 in this morning's 100TT. Sadly, I didn't know what was coming up next, or I definitely would've sandbagged. He threw me to the fish and had us attempt 6x100s @1:30. I managed the first 4 okay (5-8sec rest), but I blew up on the 5th. I still squeked out a 1:26, but had to move the RI to 10-15" instead.

I am proud that I got all 6 under 1:30 though.

2011-05-06 11:05 AM
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@Sands

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Conditions as of:
Fri, 6 May 2011 15:42:00 UTC

Winds: NW (310° at 5.1 kt gusting to 14.0 kt
Atmospheric Pressure: 30.08 in
Air Temperature: 73.6 F
Water Temperature: 73.6 F

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/

2011-05-06 11:34 AM
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titeloops - 2011-05-06 10:00 AM

gloating post here:

I'm down 7 lbs in 3 weeks! Run times are improving proportionately to weight loss. At 170lbs I was in the 9:00 to 9:15 min/mile range on most runs. At 163lbs, my runs are in the 8:30 to 8:45 range. Stoked!

That's some good weight loss and run improvement.  Keep at it.

I'm seeing some of the same here.  I'm down from 190 to 178, and I can tell a difference in the running.  It seems a bit easier to keep a lower HR and stay on pace.  I'm hoping that will translate to races coming up.  I did a 1 mile test run after my warmup this past Wednesday, and ran an 8:38, which is pretty fast for me on a flat course.

For anyone interested, I've been reading thru Racing Weight by Matt Fitzgerald, and it's been a pretty good read.  Some good information in there about goal weight and diet structure.

I've calculated my goal weight for this season, which is 171.  I'm hoping to stay around 175 and then lose the last 4 before Augusta.  I'm a bit apprehensive to lose much more right now, when the bulk of the HIM training is approaching. Truth be told, I'd like to be racing at 165.

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@Sands

Station PCLF1
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Conditions as of:
Fri, 6 May 2011 15:42:00 UTC

Winds: NW (310° at 5.1 kt gusting to 14.0 kt
Atmospheric Pressure: 30.08 in
Air Temperature: 73.6 F
Water Temperature: 73.6 F

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/

73 is perfect water temp for a swim. It'll be a bit warmer by the time we get down there, though.

2011-05-06 1:27 PM
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pilotzs - 2011-05-06 11:34 AM
titeloops - 2011-05-06 10:00 AM

gloating post here:

I'm down 7 lbs in 3 weeks! Run times are improving proportionately to weight loss. At 170lbs I was in the 9:00 to 9:15 min/mile range on most runs. At 163lbs, my runs are in the 8:30 to 8:45 range. Stoked!

That's some good weight loss and run improvement.  Keep at it.

I'm seeing some of the same here.  I'm down from 190 to 178, and I can tell a difference in the running.  It seems a bit easier to keep a lower HR and stay on pace.  I'm hoping that will translate to races coming up.  I did a 1 mile test run after my warmup this past Wednesday, and ran an 8:38, which is pretty fast for me on a flat course.

For anyone interested, I've been reading thru Racing Weight by Matt Fitzgerald, and it's been a pretty good read.  Some good information in there about goal weight and diet structure.

I've calculated my goal weight for this season, which is 171.  I'm hoping to stay around 175 and then lose the last 4 before Augusta.  I'm a bit apprehensive to lose much more right now, when the bulk of the HIM training is approaching. Truth be told, I'd like to be racing at 165.

 

Just my $0.02 here, but I say lose the weight before you start your HIM training. The only way I've been able to keep my calorie deficit at 500 of more daily is by cutting my workouts back considerably. I'm really just running right now, and keeping those to an hour or so max. Bike rides around an hour and a half. Havent swam in a week, cause swimming makes me really hungry. You think you'll lose weight with increased volume, but it usually doesnt work that way. You simply cant run calorie deficits when you are training a ton.



2011-05-06 2:44 PM
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titeloops - 2011-05-06 1:27 PM
pilotzs - 2011-05-06 11:34 AM
titeloops - 2011-05-06 10:00 AM

gloating post here:

I'm down 7 lbs in 3 weeks! Run times are improving proportionately to weight loss. At 170lbs I was in the 9:00 to 9:15 min/mile range on most runs. At 163lbs, my runs are in the 8:30 to 8:45 range. Stoked!

That's some good weight loss and run improvement.  Keep at it.

I'm seeing some of the same here.  I'm down from 190 to 178, and I can tell a difference in the running.  It seems a bit easier to keep a lower HR and stay on pace.  I'm hoping that will translate to races coming up.  I did a 1 mile test run after my warmup this past Wednesday, and ran an 8:38, which is pretty fast for me on a flat course.

For anyone interested, I've been reading thru Racing Weight by Matt Fitzgerald, and it's been a pretty good read.  Some good information in there about goal weight and diet structure.

I've calculated my goal weight for this season, which is 171.  I'm hoping to stay around 175 and then lose the last 4 before Augusta.  I'm a bit apprehensive to lose much more right now, when the bulk of the HIM training is approaching. Truth be told, I'd like to be racing at 165.

 

Just my $0.02 here, but I say lose the weight before you start your HIM training. The only way I've been able to keep my calorie deficit at 500 of more daily is by cutting my workouts back considerably. I'm really just running right now, and keeping those to an hour or so max. Bike rides around an hour and a half. Havent swam in a week, cause swimming makes me really hungry. You think you'll lose weight with increased volume, but it usually doesnt work that way. You simply cant run calorie deficits when you are training a ton.

I've got my Olympic on May 21, so I've been training and dieting thru that.  I've cut back a little, but just increased activity from training for the Olympic.  My goal is to be 175 by May 31 (which will be about 8-9 weeks since starting the diet), and keep that weight thru summer and HIM training.  I'm thinking with the increased training load, I'll drop another 2-4 pounds by the HIM in September.  I need to make sure I'm taking in the right kind of calories when my training load increases.

2011-05-06 3:06 PM
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I'm two weeks out from my first race and pretty sure I've come down with a cold and it's starting to screw up my workouts.  This sucks!!!
2011-05-06 3:31 PM
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cornfed - 2011-05-06 3:06 PM I'm two weeks out from my first race and pretty sure I've come down with a cold and it's starting to screw up my workouts.  This sucks!!!

It's "Taper Sickness" and I the only solution, is more cowbell!

2011-05-06 4:32 PM
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cornfed - 2011-05-06 3:06 PM I'm two weeks out from my first race and pretty sure I've come down with a cold and it's starting to screw up my workouts.  This sucks!!!

You're not going to gain any fitness in a couple weeks, anyway.  Rest up, get a good brisk set of workouts next week and crush all the other 462 BTers (it seems, anyway) that will be participating with you.

2011-05-07 10:50 AM
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sand101 - 2011-05-06 4:32 PM

cornfed - 2011-05-06 3:06 PM I'm two weeks out from my first race and pretty sure I've come down with a cold and it's starting to screw up my workouts.  This sucks!!!

You're not going to gain any fitness in a couple weeks, anyway.  Rest up, get a good brisk set of workouts next week and crush all the other 462 BTers (it seems, anyway) that will be participating with you.

x2    Well said.



2011-05-07 10:53 AM
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titeloops - 2011-05-06 1:27 PM
pilotzs - 2011-05-06 11:34 AM
titeloops - 2011-05-06 10:00 AM

gloating post here:

I'm down 7 lbs in 3 weeks! Run times are improving proportionately to weight loss. At 170lbs I was in the 9:00 to 9:15 min/mile range on most runs. At 163lbs, my runs are in the 8:30 to 8:45 range. Stoked!

That's some good weight loss and run improvement.  Keep at it.

I'm seeing some of the same here.  I'm down from 190 to 178, and I can tell a difference in the running.  It seems a bit easier to keep a lower HR and stay on pace.  I'm hoping that will translate to races coming up.  I did a 1 mile test run after my warmup this past Wednesday, and ran an 8:38, which is pretty fast for me on a flat course.

For anyone interested, I've been reading thru Racing Weight by Matt Fitzgerald, and it's been a pretty good read.  Some good information in there about goal weight and diet structure.

I've calculated my goal weight for this season, which is 171.  I'm hoping to stay around 175 and then lose the last 4 before Augusta.  I'm a bit apprehensive to lose much more right now, when the bulk of the HIM training is approaching. Truth be told, I'd like to be racing at 165.

 

Just my $0.02 here, but I say lose the weight before you start your HIM training. The only way I've been able to keep my calorie deficit at 500 of more daily is by cutting my workouts back considerably. I'm really just running right now, and keeping those to an hour or so max. Bike rides around an hour and a half. Havent swam in a week, cause swimming makes me really hungry. You think you'll lose weight with increased volume, but it usually doesnt work that way. You simply cant run calorie deficits when you are training a ton.

When your in season you should cut no more than 200 calories a day(300 if your a bigger guy, 200 lbs).  At a 200 calorie deficit you should be able to perform all your workouts.  Well, if you eat the right stuff at the right times.

 

2011-05-08 10:25 PM
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How was everyone's week?

 

Week Totals
S:  
5000.00 Yd
1h 28m 44s
B: 
64.40 Mi
3h 15m
R:  
30.46 Mi
3h 49m 24s
2011-05-09 4:50 AM
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Typical, first 2 times it just eats the post, then finally double posts it!

Edited by sicone 2011-05-09 5:04 AM
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My week was almost non existant. The cold I was fighting off for 2 weeks came back with avengance on Tuesday so i decided to rest for the rest of the week to try and finally beat it before Sunday's race.

Speaking of which, that was a tough course! Unfortunately the was no crushing being done by me and I was glad to reach the finish by the end! Race report is up for those that was to read about it.

2011-05-09 7:48 AM
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sicone: Nice finish. Though you weren't feeling good, you raced it and finished. All that matters!

Now, take avengance on the next one!



2011-05-09 7:49 AM
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So, how was everyone's week?

I think I'm growing gills

Swim: 15200yrd
Run: 18.2mi

The bike was no existant, and I was happy that the run didn't make my knee hurt. I think I'm starting to return to something that's not considered lazy...

2011-05-09 8:04 AM
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BamaDC - 2011-05-08 10:25 PM

How was everyone's week?

 

Week Totals
S:
5600.00 Yd
1h 52m
B: 
58.95 Mi
3h 48m 26s
R:  
23.32 Mi
4h 04m 57s

 Big numbers for me overall.  This week is a recovery week, then taper for the OLY on May 21.

2011-05-09 8:52 AM
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S:  
10500.00 Yd 3h 25m
B: 
37.90 Mi  1h 59m 15s
R:  
19.00 Mi  2h 41m 15s
 
Little low on biking, but I had to skip my long bike on Saturday on short notice to referee a game.  On the bright side I did get to throw a parent out of the game! ;-)   Run was good, as I am trying to just hold at 20 mile/week for now until the swimming is done.  Swimming was also good - I wanted 12k for the week and almost got there.  Got myself down to a pretty easy effort 6:51 500yd on Saturday.  Those are the kind of efforts I want going into this swim (BTW Robert I am officially signed up now). 
 
This week I want at least 10k swimming, 20 miles running, and hopefully 75 biking.  I'm gonna do the Vulcan practice race this Saturday in Oak Mountain.  Robert, Jason - you guys going?
 
BTW, Sicone that was an good race.  I'm shocked that better than a 9 minute mile running is only good for 43/44.  In my area that would be MOP or so.
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BamaDC - 2011-05-08 11:25 PM

How was everyone's week?

S:  
1500.00 Yd
B: 
58.77 Mi,  3h 17m 22s
R:  
11.01 Mi, 1h 41m 46s
Suffering from cold: lots
2011-05-09 10:11 AM
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sand101 - 2011-05-09 2:52 PM
BTW, Sicone that was an good race.  I'm shocked that better than a 9 minute mile running is only good for 43/44.  In my area that would be MOP or so.
I think it's just bad luck geography wise. I do almost all of my racing in the East Midlands which is were you'd find Loughborough Sports Science university (home of British Triathlon) so I think there is a higher than average quality of triathletes around here - there were a few team GB athletes in the race!

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sicone - 2011-05-09 11:11 AM
sand101 - 2011-05-09 2:52 PM
BTW, Sicone that was an good race.  I'm shocked that better than a 9 minute mile running is only good for 43/44.  In my area that would be MOP or so.

I think it's just bad luck geography wise. I do almost all of my racing in the East Midlands which is were you'd find Loughborough Sports Science university (home of British Triathlon) so I think there is a higher than average quality of triathletes around here - there were a few team GB athletes in the race!

That's some pretty tough competition but it looks like you still had a good race.

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Pretty good week for me considering we went out of town for the weekend and weren't able to get any training in.  I tried my best to cram everything in M-F without overdoing it.  I ended up only skipping 1 swim out of all the planned training.

S:  
5200.00 Yd, 1h 50m
B: 
68.73 Mi, 3h 36m 53s
R:  
23.93 Mi, 3h 19m 36s
 
Today I officially start the HIM plan for Atomic Man.  This Saturday will be my first tri of the year - it's a mini-sprint that was my first ever race last year.
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sicone - 2011-05-09 10:11 AM
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BTW, Sicone that was an good race.  I'm shocked that better than a 9 minute mile running is only good for 43/44.  In my area that would be MOP or so.

I think it's just bad luck geography wise. I do almost all of my racing in the East Midlands which is were you'd find Loughborough Sports Science university (home of British Triathlon) so I think there is a higher than average quality of triathletes around here - there were a few team GB athletes in the race!

Thanks for sharing the RR.  That does sound like a tough race with a less than ideal run course.  Good work.

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sand101 - 2011-05-09 8:52 AM
S:  
10500.00 Yd 3h 25m
B: 
37.90 Mi  1h 59m 15s
R:  
19.00 Mi  2h 41m 15s
 
Little low on biking, but I had to skip my long bike on Saturday on short notice to referee a game.  On the bright side I did get to throw a parent out of the game! ;-)   Run was good, as I am trying to just hold at 20 mile/week for now until the swimming is done.  Swimming was also good - I wanted 12k for the week and almost got there.  Got myself down to a pretty easy effort 6:51 500yd on Saturday.  Those are the kind of efforts I want going into this swim (BTW Robert I am officially signed up now). 
 
This week I want at least 10k swimming, 20 miles running, and hopefully 75 biking.  I'm gonna do the Vulcan practice race this Saturday in Oak Mountain.  Robert, Jason - you guys going?
 
BTW, Sicone that was an good race.  I'm shocked that better than a 9 minute mile running is only good for 43/44.  In my area that would be MOP or so.

I'm thinking of doing the practice race this weekend.  Can't decide which distance.  Probably will do the 600/24/3.  I want to try out the wetsuit if it comes in.  WE will see.

Sicone, I'd be 44 out of 44 in that group of running.  9 min miles is pretty stout.  You've got it behind you though.  Congrats on the finish.

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