MAD MANATEE Mentor Group (TriAya & lmscozz)--CLOSED! (Page 18)

jogo - 2011-01-09 4:32 AM I AM A RUNNER again! Great cold (13 degrees ) run with yak trax pro on my shoes. I haven't been this excited since my manatee 5k last April.My HIM plan is 18 weeks so it starts Feb. 13. It is from trinewbies. It seems manageable for my level. Right now, I am playing and enjoying. I am doing a trainerfest with the Michigan BT'ers tomorrow so 2-3 hours of t.I.t.s.

TriAya - 2011-01-09 1:18 PM

Hoy Kathy, how did I -just- notice you are in Regina? (rhymes with ...) Anyway, do you know Marina? She's a fellow BTer there ...

ha ha new to tri you may be, but silly you are not ... I think I have the market cornered on silly ... but I'm happy to share stock, I'm a giver that way

What kind of an overall training program are you following (your logs say Winter Maintenance run focus, but that's definitely not what you're doing)? You look like you're putting some great cycling volume in at a decent clip and are steadly increasing. what are the rides with the tri-club like?

You are going to remember to input your races and your goals and how you plan to achieve them on the spreadsheet for your, my, and all of our easy reference, right?

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0An7ZkKfHG1L1dHphaHc0aFczX0FkOEdhaERqWG0wa1E&hl=en&authkey=CJGo6JsM

the easy answer is: follow an appropriate training plan, and yes, that will prepare you adequately.

Additionally, however ... This is just my opinion, but in the interest of getting big T.I.T.S. (time in the saddle) that will serve you even better on race day, sneak in as much 'extra' riding as you can. Not by adding workouts, but by adding ... a commute. A leisure ride. A few errand rides here and there. Hop on the trainer during commercials or a slightly longer phone conversation. do a very easy warm-up ride TO the tri-club ride and cool down on your way back.

It is astonishing how this adds up.

As i said, you're already putting in good cycling, so it's not going to be a big stretch for you by the time you really get into the thick of a HIM plan to exceed it. some plans have as few as a couple of 50-mile rides as long rides and I think that's a travesty. If you can, get in a half-dozen 60+ mile long rides and come race day ... even if it's your first HIM and your goal is to have fun and finish (as is appropriate for a first shot at a distance), it's going to be a LOT easier to do both.

for now, not so much 'easy' but definitely steady, like you've been doing. don't be afraid to push it once in a while (as in hills on the group rides or going harder or in a bigger gear on the trainer) as long as it doesn't interfere with your ability to complete the distance you're riding and be good to go whenever your next workout is. cycling won't kill you like running might, and you're well on your way.

TriAya - 2011-01-09 3:27 PM

yeeeeeaaaah for running! and that 'manatee race' always cracks me up--do you still have the t-shirt?

How did you decide on the trinewbies plan? FWIW, although it really lacks specifics on the workouts/how to do them, I think it is a really solid plan, especially on the cycling portion, and I think it's really smart to have bike in miles and run in minutes.

Having done marathons-training will be an enormous benefit to you on the HIM run portion. [for the rest of you, it's by no means necessary, not even for an IM, but if you have done an open half-mary or mary before it sure helps the confidence].

and congrats on sharing your T.I.T.s. with a bunch of other BTers, it's a great experience, ain't it?

jogo - 2011-01-10 4:50 AM

I was searching for plans and that one seemed doable.  Some of the BT plans start out at 3300 yds of swimming (okay, maybe not till the second week) and I found them overwhelming.  This plan does have specifics for the swim which is where I need it most. The run portion I will be good with and I need the miles spelled out for the bike.  It seemed okay for me, who just wants to finish without getting pulled off the course for not making the time limits.  

Diet has been a sucking point for me.  I can't seem to stay away from stuff that I shouldn't have.  We've had 4 birthdays at the office in the past 2 weeks, each one with cake, and I always eat some and then feel gross afterwards.  Then today, we had an all day meeting and they brought in Chick-fil-A.  I ate 6 of the chicken tenders!!  There was fruit and salad there too, which I had some of - and then I ate 2 brownie bites.  Some days I do well, and other days I just reach for whatever looks yummy.

TriAya - 2011-01-07 3:53 PM CHEESE.

that's it. the next time i do a long workout--2 hrs or more, this'll probably be a looong time coming--i'm having a pop tart with cream CHEESE on it afterwards.

because i can't imagine anything more heavenly.

don't forget the milk.

mackjenn - 2011-01-08 12:27 PM Help!  I'm trying to pick my plan and cannot decide between the intermediate 21 week Olympic or the 20 week beginners half ironman (both silver programs with volumes I think I can fit in).  I don't like the silver custom plan - can't input over 1900 yard swim in the planned race and no detail in workouts.

I'm 21 weeks from the Escape from Alcatraz tri and I'd like to perform well and have fun (not PLANNING on winning, so fun is more of the intent without embarrasing myself).  After this race, I have a sprint 2 weeks later and then an oly and 1/2 ironman (each about 1 month after the last).  My primary races are 1)  Escape  (june 5)  and 2)  I/2 Iron in August.  Others are basically "practice" type races to replace training.  Following the initial 20-21 week training plan for Alcatraz, I'll switch to an 8-16 week plan for remainder of summer.

Today was the trainerfest.  I went through 2 bottles of water in 1 hour 45 minutes and we passed the container of oatmeal raisin cookies that knewbike brought around about an 1 hour in to the fest.  After the trainerfest is food fest.  I replenished with a bottle of beer (yes, before noon on a Sunday) and some hummus/veggies and another oatmeal raisin cookie.  I feel a thousand times better than I did last year at a trainerfest where I had nothing but water on the bike and limited my after bike intake to just fruit and veggies.  Beer is one of my favorite recovery drinks and they serve it at many tri's and running races after the race.  Tastes so much better than those powdered recovery drinks. 

God bless Margarita blocks.

Tucker_lr - 2011-01-09 7:08 PM 

lounav - 2011-01-09 8:38 PM

I have no tips (boy am I helpful!), but would love to hear what people have to say about what to wear when biking (hot, cold, anything) - it confuses me! 

lounav - 2011-01-09 5:38 PM

I have no tips (boy am I helpful!), but would love to hear what people have to say about what to wear when biking (hot, cold, anything) - it confuses me! 

TriAya - 2011-01-07 1:02 PM

it sure might and if you're using it on recommendation from an ortho (ask about strength/cycles), fantastic.

for your hubby the TENS function might be more appropriate--the EMS is less likely to actually help heal PF, but the TENS is quite likely to help with the pain. he's doing all the right 'other' stuff for PF including not aggravating it as much as possible, right?

I know. I'm a busybody and know-it-all. Anybody please feel free to disregard my advice, I certainly do so often enough myself [rolls eyeballs and sighs]

iluvmybeamer - 2011-01-09 10:09 PM I need help, please.

I *might* be riding my first half century next month.  I would like to put on some aero bars for this ride.  However, I have no clue what I am looking for.  So many styles, lengths, brands....

I am worried that I will buy the wrong one because my height is a factor.  I am short.  I have a 44cm road bike.

I am open to all input.  Do I need them?  What should I look for?  I would like carbon, but is it unnecessary?

mackjenn - 2011-01-09 11:51 PM

Joni - you don't need aerobars for the ride and, depending on what the ride is and who you are riding with, you may not want them at all.  When riding in a group, areo bars are kind of a no no unless you are in the lead due to the safety concerns of stopping quickly and control of the bike - they are best when riding long solo rides. 

If this is a long solo ride, then get them but don't expect to drop down and haul for 50 miles. They do take some time to get used to and don't perform well on uphills or a tight turn course.  Also consider $ per lbs of weight savings between carbon and alum..  You don't want to spend a lot of money for something you won't like.  Is weight a major consideration - primary reason for carbon (that and it is sexy).

My first pair was the cheapest ones I could find and I used them until I knew what I NEEDED different (I found I needed adjustable arm pads (narrow or wide spacing), adjustable fore and aft lenght, and pads that would move so I could still grip the top of my handlebars for riding more upright).  I sold the original set and ended up with a set of the profile airstryke.  I liked them because they offer many hand positions (underhand grip or overhand depending on where you grab it) as well as what I needed above.  Plus I can mount and remove them without re-taping my bars. http://www.profile-design.com/profile-design/products/aerobars/aluminum-aerobars/airstryke.html

So - in selecting a pair, what I would look for:
- adjsutability for forward / aft positions due to your concern over size / length. (some shops will help mount).
- Since going on a road bike, something that can be put on and removed without removing the handlebar tape each time.  Maybe the first time you have to re-tape to expose the mounting areas; however, after that you should not have to worry about it.
- Multiple grip positions (I like having more than one choice)
- Angle of grip - what can you live with?  Try one that keeps your forearms and wrists relaxed and in a neutral position.
- how will they look on your bike?  not a necessary thing, but why make a sweet bike look not so good.

BTW - be prepared to make seat adjustments.  You will probably want to raise the seat slightly and move it forward.  If you are already all the way forward on your seat, you may not be able to get a comfortable position with areobars.

iluvmybeamer - 2011-01-10 12:15 PM

Yup, hubby rested.  He has taken a long break from running.  He should be okay when he gets back into it.  He noticed that his running form started to degrade the last mile of his run.  Pushing too fast pace and rushing his training IMO.  I think he's learned his lesson.  He's a good runner, with a good running background, so he'll be fine.

My tendonitis is a reoccurring thing.  But I have nailed down the problem and the fix.  I just didn't know if and EMS was worth the money and how much it would really help the problem.

iluvmybeamer - 2011-01-10 1:39 PM
Good point, John.  I guess I've been focused on triathlons so much that I missed the cyclists' perspective.

So, for my next tri, I like the adjustable ones, for the same reasons you have pointed out.  I was looking into buying the profile design T2.  My seat position is right in the middle.  Adding aero bars shouldn't be an issue, right?

Now for the more important question, I must ask.  Can I tackle the half century in 1 month?  I should have been training for this 2 or 3 months ago, right?  Bike is my strong suit, but that doesn't mean I'm a good biker.

Galwegian - 2011-01-10 2:41 PM To the girl who was on the treadmill next to me this evening:

Just because you had your headphones in and couldn't hear, that didn't mute the sound of your trumping for the rest of us!

Parp! Parp! Parp!

It would have been a good rhythm setter if it didn't smell so eggy!

Ewww