TAN #197: We CAN be polite, TANk u very much!

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Subject: RE: TAN #197: We CAN be polite, TANk u very much!

mr2tony - 2013-03-26 2:58 PM

trinnas - 2013-03-26 1:55 PM

mehaner - 2013-03-26 2:53 PM

mr2tony - 2013-03-26 2:51 PM Yeah engineers can pick and choose what they want to do and where they want to work, mostly. The rest of us dummies can't.

if that's how you choose to interpret what i said, then go ahead with that.

I have to go where the jobs are just like everyone else, more so than most as it is a rather niche field. there are NO job openings for what I do in the area I live in. I would have to bumb somebody off for there to be an opening in research.

Then why brag about how you got two interviews for jobs you dont even want? That's rude, especially in response to people who are having a hard time finding a job. We get it, you guys have skills people want. That's great, but geez, dont rub people's faces in it. That's just rude.

all i was saying is that you can't compare job hunting across different fields/industries. it's a different market and you can't see one person getting a job quickly as a sign that you should get one quickly as well.

however, i agree that it is kinda rude to brag about getting interviews for jobs you don't want as well.

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Subject: RE: TAN #197: We CAN be polite, TANk u very much!

mr2tony - 2013-03-26 1:58 PM

trinnas - 2013-03-26 1:55 PM

mehaner - 2013-03-26 2:53 PM

mr2tony - 2013-03-26 2:51 PM Yeah engineers can pick and choose what they want to do and where they want to work, mostly. The rest of us dummies can't.

if that's how you choose to interpret what i said, then go ahead with that.

I have to go where the jobs are just like everyone else, more so than most as it is a rather niche field. there are NO job openings for what I do in the area I live in. I would have to bumb somebody off for there to be an opening in research.

Then why brag about how you got two interviews for jobs you dont even want? That's rude, especially in response to people who are having a hard time finding a job. We get it, you guys have skills people want. That's great, but geez, dont rub people's faces in it. That's just rude.

This is TAN and all. Tony go have another cup of coffee. I think you are reading the posts wrong or too much into it. Get over yourself!!!

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Subject: RE: TAN #197: We CAN be polite, TANk u very much!

Well, I wasn't trying to brag about how I am in such demand. I was out of work for over a year cuz there was no work.

BUT, when I did get an interview, I nailed it. That's because I'm just so lovable...

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Maybe too late... Bewbs?

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Subject: RE: TAN #197: We CAN be polite, TANk u very much!

trinnas - 2013-03-26 2:53 PM

tcarlson78 - 2013-03-26 2:43 PM So a question from the FNG job hunter. what/or is there a trick to decode a job posting? I am reading some of the local postings and my mind is reading buzzword type descriptions then trying to figure out what they said and its not technical stuff like Kate does in the lab. Other posts I read and know in my heart that I have done that job several times and can do it again but my challenge is the translation of my skills into thier vernacular.

Is that not industry specific?

It seems to be but so far a vast majority has what seems (to me)to be vague descriptions. such as degree requirments, x, y, z or related field. Does degree really matter (professional degrees exempt) if the person has decades of experience.

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Subject: RE: TAN #197: We CAN be polite, TANk u very much!

Awsome. Im currently 0 for 2, first got a rejection letter and second nothing but an acknowledgement of recipt. Im learning this process is going to be "fun"

So then it would be bad if I said I barely updated my 5 year old resume and didn't bother to send a cover letter. As I said it realy was just on a whim. The upside to my job is there are always more openings than their are people to fill them and it is not often that someone with my credetials comes on the market. The downside is that you have to go where the jobs are.

I personally find someone saying this to be terribly offensive if I'm in a position where I can't find a job.

You may think it makes you look cool, but really it makes you look pretentious.

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Subject: RE: TAN #197: We CAN be polite, TANk u very much!

mehaner - 2013-03-26 3:04 PM

mr2tony - 2013-03-26 2:58 PM

trinnas - 2013-03-26 1:55 PM

mehaner - 2013-03-26 2:53 PM

mr2tony - 2013-03-26 2:51 PM Yeah engineers can pick and choose what they want to do and where they want to work, mostly. The rest of us dummies can't.

if that's how you choose to interpret what i said, then go ahead with that.

I have to go where the jobs are just like everyone else, more so than most as it is a rather niche field. there are NO job openings for what I do in the area I live in. I would have to bumb somebody off for there to be an opening in research.

Then why brag about how you got two interviews for jobs you dont even want? That's rude, especially in response to people who are having a hard time finding a job. We get it, you guys have skills people want. That's great, but geez, dont rub people's faces in it. That's just rude.

all i was saying is that you can't compare job hunting across different fields/industries. it's a different market and you can't see one person getting a job quickly as a sign that you should get one quickly as well.

however, i agree that it is kinda rude to brag about getting interviews for jobs you don't want as well.

And I was just giving Troy a little good natured ribbing the way he has done to me. I do not recall saying is don't want either job one is in HIV research which I think would be awesome. The other is doing much what I do now just for hopefully a better boss. I do not know if I will be able to take either position or what I would have to do to make that a reality. I wold love the Job in MD but though I will probably be able to get it I do not know if I will be able to take it therefore sending my resume was on a whim more than on a concentrated effort. If I did not want the job I would not have sent my resume.

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Subject: RE: TAN #197: We CAN be polite, TANk u very much!

Would it be rude to mention that recruiters email me periodically with opportunities and I ignore them?

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mr2tony - 2013-03-26 3:07 PM

Awsome. Im currently 0 for 2, first got a rejection letter and second nothing but an acknowledgement of recipt. Im learning this process is going to be "fun"

So then it would be bad if I said I barely updated my 5 year old resume and didn't bother to send a cover letter. As I said it realy was just on a whim. The upside to my job is there are always more openings than their are people to fill them and it is not often that someone with my credetials comes on the market. The downside is that you have to go where the jobs are.

I personally find someone saying this to be terribly offensive if I'm in a position where I can't find a job. You may think it makes you look cool, but really it makes you look pretentious.

That depends on how you relate to the person you are speaking to not to some one who feels the need to get offened when he has no idea WTF is going on.

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Subject: RE: TAN #197: We CAN be polite, TANk u very much!

What's this threads title?

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Subject: RE: TAN #197: We CAN be polite, TANk u very much!

tcarlson78 - 2013-03-26 3:07 PM

trinnas - 2013-03-26 2:53 PM

tcarlson78 - 2013-03-26 2:43 PM So a question from the FNG job hunter. what/or is there a trick to decode a job posting? I am reading some of the local postings and my mind is reading buzzword type descriptions then trying to figure out what they said and its not technical stuff like Kate does in the lab. Other posts I read and know in my heart that I have done that job several times and can do it again but my challenge is the translation of my skills into thier vernacular.

Is that not industry specific?

It seems to be but so far a vast majority has what seems (to me)to be vague descriptions. such as degree requirments, x, y, z or related field. Does degree really matter (professional degrees exempt) if the person has decades of experience.

Yeah the problem is that HR people are the ones making the initial assesment not the people actually doing the hiring. HR people can only look for keywords in order to weed out resumes and often one of those key words is a degree.

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Subject: RE: TAN #197: We CAN be polite, TANk u very much!

bradleyd3 - 2013-03-26 12:13 PM What's this threads title?

Told you that you can't read.

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Subject: RE: TAN #197: We CAN be polite, TANk u very much!

trinnas - 2013-03-26 2:14 PM

tcarlson78 - 2013-03-26 3:07 PM

trinnas - 2013-03-26 2:53 PM

tcarlson78 - 2013-03-26 2:43 PM So a question from the FNG job hunter. what/or is there a trick to decode a job posting? I am reading some of the local postings and my mind is reading buzzword type descriptions then trying to figure out what they said and its not technical stuff like Kate does in the lab. Other posts I read and know in my heart that I have done that job several times and can do it again but my challenge is the translation of my skills into thier vernacular.

Is that not industry specific?

It seems to be but so far a vast majority has what seems (to me)to be vague descriptions. such as degree requirments, x, y, z or related field. Does degree really matter (professional degrees exempt) if the person has decades of experience.

Yeah the problem is that HR people are the ones making the initial assesment not the people actually doing the hiring. HR people can only look for keywords in order to weed out resumes and often one of those key words is a degree.

We also look at e-mail addresses....

You'd be shocked when you see a good resume and the e-mail addy is "bootylover69".

Next!

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Subject: RE: TAN #197: We CAN be polite, TANk u very much!

bradleyd3 - 2013-03-26 2:17 PM

trinnas - 2013-03-26 2:14 PM

tcarlson78 - 2013-03-26 3:07 PM

trinnas - 2013-03-26 2:53 PM

tcarlson78 - 2013-03-26 2:43 PM So a question from the FNG job hunter. what/or is there a trick to decode a job posting? I am reading some of the local postings and my mind is reading buzzword type descriptions then trying to figure out what they said and its not technical stuff like Kate does in the lab. Other posts I read and know in my heart that I have done that job several times and can do it again but my challenge is the translation of my skills into thier vernacular.

Is that not industry specific?

It seems to be but so far a vast majority has what seems (to me)to be vague descriptions. such as degree requirments, x, y, z or related field. Does degree really matter (professional degrees exempt) if the person has decades of experience.

Yeah the problem is that HR people are the ones making the initial assesment not the people actually doing the hiring. HR people can only look for keywords in order to weed out resumes and often one of those key words is a degree.

We also look at e-mail addresses.... You'd be shocked when you see a good resume and the e-mail addy is "bootylover69". Next!

Cord has applied at your company?

Bu dum.

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Subject: RE: TAN #197: We CAN be polite, TANk u very much!

bradleyd3 - 2013-03-26 3:17 PM

trinnas - 2013-03-26 2:14 PM

tcarlson78 - 2013-03-26 3:07 PM

trinnas - 2013-03-26 2:53 PM

tcarlson78 - 2013-03-26 2:43 PM So a question from the FNG job hunter. what/or is there a trick to decode a job posting? I am reading some of the local postings and my mind is reading buzzword type descriptions then trying to figure out what they said and its not technical stuff like Kate does in the lab. Other posts I read and know in my heart that I have done that job several times and can do it again but my challenge is the translation of my skills into thier vernacular.

Is that not industry specific?

It seems to be but so far a vast majority has what seems (to me)to be vague descriptions. such as degree requirments, x, y, z or related field. Does degree really matter (professional degrees exempt) if the person has decades of experience.

Yeah the problem is that HR people are the ones making the initial assesment not the people actually doing the hiring. HR people can only look for keywords in order to weed out resumes and often one of those key words is a degree.

We also look at e-mail addresses.... You'd be shocked when you see a good resume and the e-mail addy is "bootylover69". Next!

You know I never thought of that! That is hysterical.

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Subject: RE: TAN #197: We CAN be polite, TANk u very much!

trinnas - 2013-03-26 3:14 PM

tcarlson78 - 2013-03-26 3:07 PM

trinnas - 2013-03-26 2:53 PM

tcarlson78 - 2013-03-26 2:43 PM So a question from the FNG job hunter. what/or is there a trick to decode a job posting? I am reading some of the local postings and my mind is reading buzzword type descriptions then trying to figure out what they said and its not technical stuff like Kate does in the lab. Other posts I read and know in my heart that I have done that job several times and can do it again but my challenge is the translation of my skills into thier vernacular.

Is that not industry specific?

It seems to be but so far a vast majority has what seems (to me)to be vague descriptions. such as degree requirments, x, y, z or related field. Does degree really matter (professional degrees exempt) if the person has decades of experience.

Yeah the problem is that HR people are the ones making the initial assesment not the people actually doing the hiring. HR people can only look for keywords in order to weed out resumes and often one of those key words is a degree.

As a hiring manager I have asked the recruiters to send me the resume of everyone who has proactively applied for the position. I don't always trust their judgement. Nor do I trust them to differentiate for me the people who they are actively recruiting and the people who have proactively sought out this particular position

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Kido - 2013-03-26 3:05 PM Maybe too late... Bewbs?

Whoa.. I was just posting how immature I was when I swore I heard someone type, "Bewbs."

Hi all!

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Subject: RE: TAN #197: We CAN be polite, TANk u very much!

bradleyd3 - 2013-03-26 3:17 PM

trinnas - 2013-03-26 2:14 PM

tcarlson78 - 2013-03-26 3:07 PM

trinnas - 2013-03-26 2:53 PM

tcarlson78 - 2013-03-26 2:43 PM So a question from the FNG job hunter. what/or is there a trick to decode a job posting? I am reading some of the local postings and my mind is reading buzzword type descriptions then trying to figure out what they said and its not technical stuff like Kate does in the lab. Other posts I read and know in my heart that I have done that job several times and can do it again but my challenge is the translation of my skills into thier vernacular.

Is that not industry specific?

It seems to be but so far a vast majority has what seems (to me)to be vague descriptions. such as degree requirments, x, y, z or related field. Does degree really matter (professional degrees exempt) if the person has decades of experience.

Yeah the problem is that HR people are the ones making the initial assesment not the people actually doing the hiring. HR people can only look for keywords in order to weed out resumes and often one of those key words is a degree.

We also look at e-mail addresses.... You'd be shocked when you see a good resume and the e-mail addy is "bootylover69". Next!

Oh for Pete's sake, I use that address one time and people won't let it die.

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Subject: RE: TAN #197: We CAN be polite, TANk u very much!

Pector55 - 2013-03-26 3:19 PM

Kido - 2013-03-26 3:05 PM Maybe too late... Bewbs?

Whoa.. I was just posting how immature I was when I swore I heard someone type, "Bewbs."

Hi all!

Hey Godzirra! How you Been?

Long time no see.

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Subject: RE: TAN #197: We CAN be polite, TANk u very much!

trinnas - 2013-03-26 2:11 PM

mr2tony - 2013-03-26 3:07 PM

Awsome. Im currently 0 for 2, first got a rejection letter and second nothing but an acknowledgement of recipt. Im learning this process is going to be "fun"

So then it would be bad if I said I barely updated my 5 year old resume and didn't bother to send a cover letter. As I said it realy was just on a whim. The upside to my job is there are always more openings than their are people to fill them and it is not often that someone with my credetials comes on the market. The downside is that you have to go where the jobs are.

I personally find someone saying this to be terribly offensive if I'm in a position where I can't find a job. You may think it makes you look cool, but really it makes you look pretentious.

That depends on how you relate to the person you are speaking to not to some one who feels the need to get offened when he has no idea WTF is going on.

Others can see what you write. Some who read it may be like `Wow, that's a pretentious thing to say, especially when not everybody has as easy a time finding a job.' and express their opinion on the matter. And I'm not very good at not expressing my opinion.

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Subject: RE: TAN #197: We CAN be polite, TANk u very much!

Annnnnnnnyway ...

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Subject: RE: TAN #197: We CAN be polite, TANk u very much!

Good stuff here, new thread comming up,

I heard bewbs, lost my concentration of previous subject.

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Subject: RE: TAN #197: We CAN be polite, TANk u very much!

mr2tony - 2013-03-26 3:23 PM

trinnas - 2013-03-26 2:11 PM

mr2tony - 2013-03-26 3:07 PM

Awsome. Im currently 0 for 2, first got a rejection letter and second nothing but an acknowledgement of recipt. Im learning this process is going to be "fun"

So then it would be bad if I said I barely updated my 5 year old resume and didn't bother to send a cover letter. As I said it realy was just on a whim. The upside to my job is there are always more openings than their are people to fill them and it is not often that someone with my credetials comes on the market. The downside is that you have to go where the jobs are.

I personally find someone saying this to be terribly offensive if I'm in a position where I can't find a job. You may think it makes you look cool, but really it makes you look pretentious.

That depends on how you relate to the person you are speaking to not to some one who feels the need to get offened when he has no idea WTF is going on.

Others can see what you write. Some who read it may be like `Wow, that's a pretentious thing to say, especially when not everybody has as easy a time finding a job.' and express their opinion on the matter. And I'm not very good at not expressing my opinion.

Hmmm and I have seen you say the same sort of carp to others regardless of who can see. Your judgment of pretention is based on your own bias. This is TAN remember? I don't joke with you or your vatas for good reason. Other people I will and I won't stop because you get your panties in a twist due to your own bias.

Edited by trinnas 2013-03-26 2:35 PM