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2014-07-02 10:35 PM
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Great finish Lisa.

Brian, I'm really feeling for you in Norway ;-)

Jim, I would buy the Garmin 910 XT again in a New York minute. It does everything for me except the actual workout. And, I can read it at the pool without my glasses. $50 rebate is good through the end of July. And Garmin Connect automatically uploads to Training Peaks. And the ANT stick is so easy and also uploads to BT and Strava.

Rest day for me today. It's getting hot!


2014-07-02 11:08 PM
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32 minutes in the pool this evening

Dennis 02 3:50:00
Mitch 02 02:10:54
Jim 02 01:38:46
Barry 02 01:25:29
Jackie 01 01:28:41
Lisa 01 01:01:06
Brian 01 00:42:00

@Jim - I just got the new Polar V800 coming from the Garmin 610. I'm loving it so far however it doesn't export to other sites yet (polar is promising that in a future firmware update) and it doesn't yet do swim metrics other than heart rate (again promised in a future update) I really like the recovery feature on it. I didn't have a lot of ant+ accessories so it wasn't so hard for me to make the jump to the Polar

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Thanks all for your comments and great job on the June challenge, we had some podium winners, first time triathletes, polar bear club swimmers (Jim), injured athletes, the whole works.  So overall a good month!

Jim, I just did my research to replace my recently stolen Garmin 910xt and looked at all the options out there.  I  narrowed it down to the Garmin 910xt and the Garmin Fenix 2 and ended up choosing the Garmin 910xt again.  IMO it is a solid watch for triathletes for tracking all workouts in all 3 sports, easy to use, decent battery life and easy to read screen.  Let me know if you have any specific questions.  Even though there are some cheaper options out there, the investment is worth it since it is something you will be using on an almost daily basis.  I would also wait to see if there are any good 4th of July deals coming out in the next couple of days

Adding 1 1hr drainer workout yesterday and two 1hr drainer workouts today (lunch and dinner)

 

Dennis 02 3:50:00 
Mitch 02 02:10:54 
Jim 02 01:38:46 
Barry 02 01:25:29 
Jackie 01 01:28:41 
Lisa 01 01:01:06 
Brian 01 00:42:00 
Gabe 02 3:01:30

 

2014-07-03 8:51 AM
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1 hr 20 min on the drainer this morning. 2x20' @ 83% FTP. I wasn't feeling it at all after the interval run workout yesterday. Forced myself to gut out the 20' intervals. Feel better about it now. yesterday was the best swim I;ve had this year. Did the entire MS of the workout. Feeling it today.

Dennis 02 3:50:00
Mitch 03 03:30:57
Jim 02 01:38:46
Barry 02 01:25:29
Jackie 01 01:28:41
Lisa 01 01:01:06
Brian 01 00:42:00
Gabe 02 3:01:30
2014-07-03 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by trigabe

Thanks all for your comments and great job on the June challenge, we had some podium winners, first time triathletes, polar bear club swimmers (Jim), injured athletes, the whole works.  So overall a good month!

Jim, I just did my research to replace my recently stolen Garmin 910xt and looked at all the options out there.  I  narrowed it down to the Garmin 910xt and the Garmin Fenix 2 and ended up choosing the Garmin 910xt again.  IMO it is a solid watch for triathletes for tracking all workouts in all 3 sports, easy to use, decent battery life and easy to read screen.  Let me know if you have any specific questions.  Even though there are some cheaper options out there, the investment is worth it since it is something you will be using on an almost daily basis.  I would also wait to see if there are any good 4th of July deals coming out in the next couple of days

Adding 1 1hr drainer workout yesterday and two 1hr drainer workouts today (lunch and dinner)



Gabe- Have you had any issues with the swim mode accuracy? I have had mine add laps at the pool and the GPS detail of my open water swims are all over the place. I swim the same 100yd buoy line and one lap will say I swam 80yds and the very next lap will say I same 135yds. I've googled the issue I'm having and some say to put the Garmin in run mode where the GPS is more accurate(????) and others say to put the watch in your swim cap to get a more accurate reading. Just wondering if you have had similar issues.

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2014-07-03 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by trigabe

Thanks all for your comments and great job on the June challenge, we had some podium winners, first time triathletes, polar bear club swimmers (Jim), injured athletes, the whole works.  So overall a good month!

Jim, I just did my research to replace my recently stolen Garmin 910xt and looked at all the options out there.  I  narrowed it down to the Garmin 910xt and the Garmin Fenix 2 and ended up choosing the Garmin 910xt again.  IMO it is a solid watch for triathletes for tracking all workouts in all 3 sports, easy to use, decent battery life and easy to read screen.  Let me know if you have any specific questions.  Even though there are some cheaper options out there, the investment is worth it since it is something you will be using on an almost daily basis.  I would also wait to see if there are any good 4th of July deals coming out in the next couple of days

Adding 1 1hr drainer workout yesterday and two 1hr drainer workouts today (lunch and dinner)



Gabe- Have you had any issues with the swim mode accuracy? I have had mine add laps at the pool and the GPS detail of my open water swims are all over the place. I swim the same 100yd buoy line and one lap will say I swam 80yds and the very next lap will say I same 135yds. I've googled the issue I'm having and some say to put the Garmin in run mode where the GPS is more accurate(????) and others say to put the watch in your swim cap to get a more accurate reading. Just wondering if you have had similar issues.


I have the 910xt as well. I very rarely have any issues in the pool. I cramped during a lap the other day and had to stop mid lap and start up again. That messed up that lap. It was months since I had an issue. In about 2.5 years of use I can count on one hand the amount of times in a pool where I had lap counting issue. The key is to swim smooth, not hit lane markers, etc.

I think over a longer distance in open water it will be more accurate. DCRainmaker has some good tests of the open water GPS. Over 100 yds I think keven the run GPS would start giving shoddy readings. Agree with the swim cap approach.


2014-07-03 12:10 PM
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The storms put me on the drainer 1:30:00

Dennis 02 3:50:00
Mitch 03 03:30:57
Jim 03 03:08:46
Barry 02 01:25:29
Jackie 01 01:28:41
Lisa 01 01:01:06
Brian 01 00:42:00
Gabe 02 3:01:30
2014-07-03 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by sawyer1206

Originally posted by trigabe

Thanks all for your comments and great job on the June challenge, we had some podium winners, first time triathletes, polar bear club swimmers (Jim), injured athletes, the whole works.  So overall a good month!

Jim, I just did my research to replace my recently stolen Garmin 910xt and looked at all the options out there.  I  narrowed it down to the Garmin 910xt and the Garmin Fenix 2 and ended up choosing the Garmin 910xt again.  IMO it is a solid watch for triathletes for tracking all workouts in all 3 sports, easy to use, decent battery life and easy to read screen.  Let me know if you have any specific questions.  Even though there are some cheaper options out there, the investment is worth it since it is something you will be using on an almost daily basis.  I would also wait to see if there are any good 4th of July deals coming out in the next couple of days

Adding 1 1hr drainer workout yesterday and two 1hr drainer workouts today (lunch and dinner)



Gabe- Have you had any issues with the swim mode accuracy? I have had mine add laps at the pool and the GPS detail of my open water swims are all over the place. I swim the same 100yd buoy line and one lap will say I swam 80yds and the very next lap will say I same 135yds. I've googled the issue I'm having and some say to put the Garmin in run mode where the GPS is more accurate(????) and others say to put the watch in your swim cap to get a more accurate reading. Just wondering if you have had similar issues.


The GPS isn't as accurate as the GPS makers want you to believe. Even a high end GPS has an error of about 100 yards. Swimming in open water will give you some extra bounce caused by waves, being lower than the land, and from your arm entering and leaving the water causing the GPS to occasionally lose the satellite signal.
2014-07-03 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by trisuppo 1 hr 20 min on the drainer this morning. 2x20' @ 83% FTP. I wasn't feeling it at all after the interval run workout yesterday. Forced myself to gut out the 20' intervals. Feel better about it now. yesterday was the best swim I;ve had this year. Did the entire MS of the workout. Feeling it today.  

Good job Mitch on pushing yourself on the 3 sports and glad to hear that you are seeing good results, keep it up!

2014-07-03 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by JBacarella
Originally posted by sawyer1206
Originally posted by trigabe

Thanks all for your comments and great job on the June challenge, we had some podium winners, first time triathletes, polar bear club swimmers (Jim), injured athletes, the whole works.  So overall a good month!

Jim, I just did my research to replace my recently stolen Garmin 910xt and looked at all the options out there.  I  narrowed it down to the Garmin 910xt and the Garmin Fenix 2 and ended up choosing the Garmin 910xt again.  IMO it is a solid watch for triathletes for tracking all workouts in all 3 sports, easy to use, decent battery life and easy to read screen.  Let me know if you have any specific questions.  Even though there are some cheaper options out there, the investment is worth it since it is something you will be using on an almost daily basis.  I would also wait to see if there are any good 4th of July deals coming out in the next couple of days

Adding 1 1hr drainer workout yesterday and two 1hr drainer workouts today (lunch and dinner)

Gabe- Have you had any issues with the swim mode accuracy? I have had mine add laps at the pool and the GPS detail of my open water swims are all over the place. I swim the same 100yd buoy line and one lap will say I swam 80yds and the very next lap will say I same 135yds. I've googled the issue I'm having and some say to put the Garmin in run mode where the GPS is more accurate(????) and others say to put the watch in your swim cap to get a more accurate reading. Just wondering if you have had similar issues.
The GPS isn't as accurate as the GPS makers want you to believe. Even a high end GPS has an error of about 100 yards. Swimming in open water will give you some extra bounce caused by waves, being lower than the land, and from your arm entering and leaving the water causing the GPS to occasionally lose the satellite signal.

Agree with the comments about the Garmin 910 on the pool, I've hardly had any issues either.  I therefore don't worry about counting laps any more, just look at the watch and can compare my swim workouts to measure progress.

For OWS it's not as accurate on short distances as Jim correctly states and here is an explanation for it "Position isn't completely accurate since GPS signals don't travel evenly through shallow water, so the Garmin has to acquire position during the short time your arm is out of the water. It's good enough for general tracking, but you'll definitely notice some glitches"  

 

2014-07-03 2:27 PM
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Agree with the comments about the Garmin 910 on the pool, I've hardly had any issues either.  I therefore don't worry about counting laps any more, just look at the watch and can compare my swim workouts to measure progress.

For OWS it's not as accurate on short distances as Jim correctly states and here is an explanation for it "Position isn't completely accurate since GPS signals don't travel evenly through shallow water, so the Garmin has to acquire position during the short time your arm is out of the water. It's good enough for general tracking, but you'll definitely notice some glitches"  

 




Sounds like its more accurate in the pool then in the open water. When I first started using it I tried counting laps to check the accuracy and it seemed like it was adding laps over 800 yds but maybe my ability to count that high was impaired by my swim. I definitely see what you guys are talking about with the GPS in the open water, it losses GPS frequently throughout the workout. Overall I am pleased with the watch.

I haven't tried uploading to Strava yet but I will try that this weekend.


2014-07-03 3:06 PM
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Agree with the comments about the Garmin 910 on the pool, I've hardly had any issues either.  I therefore don't worry about counting laps any more, just look at the watch and can compare my swim workouts to measure progress.

For OWS it's not as accurate on short distances as Jim correctly states and here is an explanation for it "Position isn't completely accurate since GPS signals don't travel evenly through shallow water, so the Garmin has to acquire position during the short time your arm is out of the water. It's good enough for general tracking, but you'll definitely notice some glitches"  

 




Sounds like its more accurate in the pool then in the open water. When I first started using it I tried counting laps to check the accuracy and it seemed like it was adding laps over 800 yds but maybe my ability to count that high was impaired by my swim. I definitely see what you guys are talking about with the GPS in the open water, it losses GPS frequently throughout the workout. Overall I am pleased with the watch.

I haven't tried uploading to Strava yet but I will try that this weekend.


I can usually tell when there is a blip in the pool...instead of my workout being an even 50 or 100 meter number it's a number ending in 25. That us assuming only one blip in the workout. Also, it won't pick up kick sets. Only swimming sets. It does a pretty good job determining what stroke you're doing...unless you're swim challenged like me and your watch describes your backstroke as "unidentified".

On strava I just select the upload file function and point it to the folder with my garmin workouts. I then select the file to add.
2014-07-03 6:19 PM
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Joe, thanks for the feedback on the AC Challenge tri this weekend, so much for a "fast course"

Adding a 7 mile morning run + 3000m swim at lunch

 

Dennis 02 3:50:00 
Mitch 03 03:30:57 
Jim 03 03:08:46 
Barry 02 01:25:29 
Jackie 01 01:28:41 
Lisa 01 01:01:06 
Brian 01 00:42:00 
Gabe 03 5:06:30

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First brick workout in a while, 1:02 on the bike followed by a 30 minute run

Dennis 02 3:50:00
Mitch 03 03:30:57
Jim 03 03:08:46
Barry 03 02:57:49
Jackie 01 01:28:41
Lisa 01 01:01:06
Brian 01 00:42:00
Gabe 03 5:06:30

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Adding 2 short 30 min runs. Marathon on Sunday! Actually, I'm not that excited since I'm battling a lingering cold and chronic foot pain. On top of that 2 days ago got really cold on a kayak and afterwards went for a run... Bad mistake running on really cold legs.

Dennis 02 3:50:00
Mitch 03 03:30:57
Jim 03 03:08:46
Barry 03 02:57:49
Jackie 01 01:28:41
Lisa 01 01:01:06
Brian 01 00:42:00
Gabe 03 5:06:30
Mark Z 02 01:00:00

Barry, last Monday I watched a triathlon in Chicago on TV in one of the sport clubs (not a bad day at the office...), but it was all around Grant Park. Was that another triathlon there? A bit early too. I hope they didn't replace the traditional one in August.

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1250 meters in the pool followed by 6 miles running. Legs didn't really feel like running until the last mile...then it was time to stop.

Dennis 02 3:50:00
Mitch 04 04:53:44
Jim 03 03:08:46
Barry 03 02:57:49
Jackie 01 01:28:41
Lisa 01 01:01:06
Brian 01 00:42:00
Gabe 03 5:06:30
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Adding 2 short 30 min runs. Marathon on Sunday! Actually, I'm not that excited since I'm battling a lingering cold and chronic foot pain. On top of that 2 days ago got really cold on a kayak and afterwards went for a run... Bad mistake running on really cold legs.

Dennis 02 3:50:00
Mitch 03 03:30:57
Jim 03 03:08:46
Barry 03 02:57:49
Jackie 01 01:28:41
Lisa 01 01:01:06
Brian 01 00:42:00
Gabe 03 5:06:30
Mark Z 02 01:00:00

Barry, last Monday I watched a triathlon in Chicago on TV in one of the sport clubs (not a bad day at the office...), but it was all around Grant Park. Was that another triathlon there? A bit early too. I hope they didn't replace the traditional one in August.


I was wondering that too Mark but it was added as part of the ITU series. Next year it'll be the last race of the series and the championship. The original Chicago Tri is still on in late August.

Rest day for me.

Happy 4th everyone!!
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1260 in the Lake water temp. hit 60F today 31:55. Thanks Mitch, I was going to skip today, but you laid down the challenge in the challenge . I did have to make up a swim I missed earlier in the week due to weather.

Dennis 02 3:50:00
Mitch 04 04:53:44
Jim 04 03:40:41
Barry 03 02:57:49
Jackie 01 01:28:41
Lisa 01 01:01:06
Brian 01 00:42:00
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1260 in the Lake water temp. hit 60F today 31:55. Thanks Mitch, I was going to skip today, but you laid down the challenge in the challenge . I did have to make up a swim I missed earlier in the week due to weather.

Dennis 02 3:50:00
Mitch 04 04:53:44
Jim 04 03:40:41
Barry 03 02:57:49
Jackie 01 01:28:41
Lisa 01 01:01:06
Brian 01 00:42:00
Gabe 03 5:06:30
Mark Z 02 01:00:00



Glad I can help. I'm hoping to put some real time on the board tomorrow!
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Mark, hope you get better and best of luck on your Marathon on Sunday, keep us posted!

Jim, good job on getting out for your swim!

Today 1hr on the drainer 

Dennis 02 3:50:00 
Mitch 04 04:53:44 
Jim 04 03:40:41 
Barry 03 02:57:49 
Jackie 01 01:28:41 
Lisa 01 01:01:06 
Brian 01 00:42:00 
Gabe 04 6:07:00 
Mark Z 02 01:00:00 

2014-07-05 4:14 AM
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Mark, hope you get better and best of luck on your Marathon on Sunday, keep us posted!


Thanks Gabe. All systems are go (slow). Will report tomorrow after the race.

This morning my wife completed 10k race which is a part of the Gold Coast Marathon weekend. It was a surprise she decided to do it since running (or any exercise really) is not her thing and she hasn't run even once to prepare herself for it. I don't know what her time was, apparently the chip was faulty. It doesn't matter. She mentioned even signing up for a HM next year! She reminds me of my cousin who, in his first year of running, decided to run a marathon and being a chain smoker stopped during the race to have a cigarette to the amusement of the onlookers. He ran more than 20 marathons and few ultras since. And of course he doesn't smoke anymore.

Have a great weekend guys!


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2 hr 15 ride this morning at local park (6 mile loops - 89%FTP). Was supposed to be 3 hours but after late night at fireworks and needing to fit ride in before my 4 year olds swim lesson, I got done what I could. 5 hours of sleep doesn't do it for me anymore.

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Mitch 05 07:08:12
Jim 04 03:40:41
Barry 03 02:57:49
Jackie 01 01:28:41
Lisa 01 01:01:06
Brian 01 00:42:00
Gabe 04 6:07:00
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2014-07-05 12:56 PM
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51 mile, 3:20 ride today with good climbing and then rushed back home to watch Argentina beat Belgium.  Now ready for Costa Rica - Netherlands.  Have a good weekend everyone!

Dennis 02 3:50:00 
Mitch 05 07:08:12 
Jim 04 03:40:41 
Barry 03 02:57:49 
Jackie 01 01:28:41 
Lisa 01 01:01:06 
Brian 01 00:42:00 
Gabe 05 9:27:00 
Mark Z 02 01:00:00 

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Adding a OWS I got in while enjoying 4th of July festivities with some friends on the lake.

Gabe 05 9:27:00
Mitch 05 07:08:12
Jim 04 03:40:41
Dennis 03 4:25:00
Barry 03 02:57:49
Mark Z 02 01:00:00
Jackie 01 01:28:41
Lisa 01 01:01:06
Brian 01 00:42:00

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32 minute run this evening

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Jim 04 03:40:41
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Dennis 03 4:25:00
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