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2014-04-11 8:23 AM in reply to: switch |
Regular 127 Ankeny | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge I got my +1 in this morning. Unfortunately my swim fell apart. I don't know if it's because I am a little sore from yesterday's pull-a-palooza or just tired from a poor night's sleep. Either way I'm disappointed in this morning's effort. But as they say, a bad workout is better than no workout. 200 Warm Up 200 Pull 100 Kick 4x100 on 2:00 4x75 on 1:30 4x50 on 1:00 4x25 on :30 300 Pull 200 Cool Down 2000 Yards Total |
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2014-04-11 3:22 PM in reply to: 0 |
Pro 6520 Bellingham, WA | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Got in n+2 for the week. Experimented a bit with my catch. Felt kind of odd but I noticed significant difference with how it affected my stroke good or bad. I think there is definitely a lot of potential there. Today was: 400 wu 2 x 200 2 x 100 2 x 50 2 x 100 2 x 200 Total 1,700 yards Another thing I have noticed with shorter, faster sets is that my actual time in the pool is less. Makes getting my workout in during lunch a lot easier. Edited by popsracer 2014-04-11 3:24 PM |
2014-04-11 10:54 PM in reply to: popsracer |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Just getting a bunch in tonight. Yesterday was tough, so I was kind of tired. Trying out an old iPhone in a ziplock to have a clock handy. Did a recovery interval for much of the work and a send-off interval for the late 50's. Experimented with the paddles there to see how I can work some of that in again. 300 swim / 100 k / 200 swim / 100 k / 100 swim / 100 k |
2014-04-12 3:09 PM in reply to: BigN321 |
Member 119 Ledyard, CT | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by BigN321 I got my +1 in this morning. Unfortunately my swim fell apart. I don't know if it's because I am a little sore from yesterday's pull-a-palooza or just tired from a poor night's sleep. Either way I'm disappointed in this morning's effort. But as they say, a bad workout is better than no workout. 200 Warm Up 200 Pull 100 Kick 4x100 on 2:00 4x75 on 1:30 4x50 on 1:00 4x25 on :30 300 Pull 200 Cool Down 2000 Yards Total Nice job sticking with it, especially when it got tough. Typically, when I feel that my swim is getting sloppy I take that as a sign to get out of the pool. |
2014-04-12 3:10 PM in reply to: popsracer |
Member 119 Ledyard, CT | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by popsracer Got in n+2 for the week. Experimented a bit with my catch. Felt kind of odd but I noticed significant difference with how it affected my stroke good or bad. I think there is definitely a lot of potential there. Today was: 400 wu 2 x 200 2 x 100 2 x 50 2 x 100 2 x 200 Total 1,700 yards Another thing I have noticed with shorter, faster sets is that my actual time in the pool is less. Makes getting my workout in during lunch a lot easier. Nice job on the +2! |
2014-04-12 3:16 PM in reply to: brigby1 |
Member 119 Ledyard, CT | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by brigby1 Just getting a bunch in tonight. Yesterday was tough, so I was kind of tired. Trying out an old iPhone in a ziplock to have a clock handy. Did a recovery interval for much of the work and a send-off interval for the late 50's. Experimented with the paddles there to see how I can work some of that in again. 300 swim / 100 k / 200 swim / 100 k / 100 swim / 100 k When you do your 50's on a :50 send-off interval, what time do you typically come in on? I'm asking more for my own knowledge. I did a couple of "fast" 50's this afternoon and came in around :39. After that effort, I couldn't even think about going back off in 11 seconds. |
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2014-04-12 3:23 PM in reply to: switch |
Member 119 Ledyard, CT | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge I got in my n+2 this afternoon. 300 sw 100 k 300 sw 2 x 50 fast 3 x 300 2 x 50 k 3 x 200 2 x 50 k 3 x 100 2 x 50 k 100 sw Total: 3000 yds. My form was pretty good, although I did notice myself crossing over a few times. I still need a little bit more work on my pacing, but it feels much more under control than it did a few weeks ago. |
2014-04-12 4:18 PM in reply to: MikeyP4 |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge I appreciate all the n+2's that everyone is posting because I'm only hitting n this week so maybe I can borrow one from someone.... |
2014-04-12 5:00 PM in reply to: axteraa |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by axteraa Haha! Only at n myself for the last week.I appreciate all the n+2's that everyone is posting because I'm only hitting n this week so maybe I can borrow one from someone.... |
2014-04-12 5:04 PM in reply to: MikeyP4 |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by MikeyP4 Originally posted by brigby1 When you do your 50's on a :50 send-off interval, what time do you typically come in on? I'm asking more for my own knowledge. I did a couple of "fast" 50's this afternoon and came in around :39. After that effort, I couldn't even think about going back off in 11 seconds. Just getting a bunch in tonight. Yesterday was tough, so I was kind of tired. Trying out an old iPhone in a ziplock to have a clock handy. Did a recovery interval for much of the work and a send-off interval for the late 50's. Experimented with the paddles there to see how I can work some of that in again. 300 swim / 100 k / 200 swim / 100 k / 100 swim / 100 k I think the fast ones were :36-37 and the slow :40-41. Still getting used to using the phone as a timer and also the use of the paddles. A bit tired from the day before as well. Otherwise I'd try to push those a bit more away from each other. A touch faster fast, and a touch easier easy. |
2014-04-12 7:03 PM in reply to: brigby1 |
Member 119 Ledyard, CT | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by MikeyP4 Originally posted by brigby1 When you do your 50's on a :50 send-off interval, what time do you typically come in on? I'm asking more for my own knowledge. I did a couple of "fast" 50's this afternoon and came in around :39. After that effort, I couldn't even think about going back off in 11 seconds. Just getting a bunch in tonight. Yesterday was tough, so I was kind of tired. Trying out an old iPhone in a ziplock to have a clock handy. Did a recovery interval for much of the work and a send-off interval for the late 50's. Experimented with the paddles there to see how I can work some of that in again. 300 swim / 100 k / 200 swim / 100 k / 100 swim / 100 k I think the fast ones were :36-37 and the slow :40-41. Still getting used to using the phone as a timer and also the use of the paddles. A bit tired from the day before as well. Otherwise I'd try to push those a bit more away from each other. A touch faster fast, and a touch easier easy. Wow...thanks. I have some work to do to get to a :50 send-off interval. I was gassed coming in at :39; I'm not even sure if I could do a :36. |
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2014-04-12 8:06 PM in reply to: MikeyP4 |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by MikeyP4 Originally posted by brigby1 Wow...thanks. I have some work to do to get to a :50 send-off interval. I was gassed coming in at :39; I'm not even sure if I could do a :36. Originally posted by MikeyP4 Originally posted by brigby1 When you do your 50's on a :50 send-off interval, what time do you typically come in on? I'm asking more for my own knowledge. I did a couple of "fast" 50's this afternoon and came in around :39. After that effort, I couldn't even think about going back off in 11 seconds. Just getting a bunch in tonight. Yesterday was tough, so I was kind of tired. Trying out an old iPhone in a ziplock to have a clock handy. Did a recovery interval for much of the work and a send-off interval for the late 50's. Experimented with the paddles there to see how I can work some of that in again. 300 swim / 100 k / 200 swim / 100 k / 100 swim / 100 k I think the fast ones were :36-37 and the slow :40-41. Still getting used to using the phone as a timer and also the use of the paddles. A bit tired from the day before as well. Otherwise I'd try to push those a bit more away from each other. A touch faster fast, and a touch easier easy. It really depends on what you want to do, so make sure to understand the goals going in. For a more steady, but strong send-off, I can do a bunch on :45 coming in mid-30's for all of them. We've done :40 at masters, but that is less frequent and tends to be for short bunches at most. The bigger send-off could be for either swimming it at a higher effort level or for going at a more relaxed pace. And in that set I did both. For the really hard ones like your :39, we'd be going at more like 1:00. I should come in at :32 and have done :30 at times. Going this hard is a bit less frequent though. More of the work should be with the :45 & :50 for me, or as appropriate for who is doing it. As you get better at controlling your pacing, you will likely also learn how to work these types of things. |
2014-04-14 8:29 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
Expert 4929 Middle River, Maryland | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Happy Monday everyone...this morning's swim: 20 SCY 1320 total |
2014-04-14 10:12 AM in reply to: 0 |
Regular 127 Ankeny | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Good Morning Friends. Here's today's workout: 300 Warm Up 6x50 Drill 4x75 on 1:20 2x 500 @9:30 (9:06, 9:28) 100 Sprint (1:30, 1:40) 200 Pull (Breath every 3/5 on 50) 200 Cool Down 2500 Total Edited by BigN321 2014-04-14 10:12 AM |
2014-04-14 12:09 PM in reply to: BigN321 |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Seems that one pool at masters has switched to scm. Fine once we got into practice, but that was a looong warm-up. It's not the extra distance really, but the visual part as this is a pool we use so regularly. The familiarity is gone. There are two T's on the bottom and so used to only going to the first, plus the spacial sensation in the room. This is also where the bottom drops off much faster going into the deep end. Lots of short stuff at least. Seem to have picked up something on body positioning over the weekend that helped. Hopefully can hang onto it as a number of things were rather easy that way. |
2014-04-15 10:51 AM in reply to: MikeyP4 |
Veteran 727 Baltimore Area | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Went for a run this morning but it was pouring rain. I was going to brave it but no one else was on board. I had my swim gear in the car so decided to go for a swim. 1x50 swim 1x50 kick 1x50 pull 1x1200 Total: 1350 yards I am again between weeks in this program. I was planning to do week 6 (day 1), so after the short warm up, I started in. When I got to 1000 yards, I felt tired but ok. After I got to 1200 yards, I was really tired and I could feel my form faltering so I called it quits. I think I am going to drop back to week 5 for the next week or 2 and see if I can get comfortable again. This is what happens when you miss workouts! WEEK five: 1000 yards...rest for 8 breaths 4 x 100 yards...rest for 4 breaths between 100s 4 x 50 yards...rest for 4 breaths between 50s total: 1600 yards WEEK six (days 1 and 2): 1200 yards...rest for 6 breaths 3 x 100 yards...rest for 4 breaths between 100s 3 x 50 yards...rest for 4 breaths between 50s (day 3) 1650 yards straight (equals 1500 meters) total: 1650 yards! |
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2014-04-15 3:57 PM in reply to: 0 |
Pro 6520 Bellingham, WA | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Work has been crazy busy making it tough to get as much time in the pool during my lunch hour as I'd like. I wanted to swim yesterday but couldn't take the time. Today I had a narrow window to get a quick swim in. Planned to do a 400 warmup and then short sets. After about 300 yards I decided to turn it into a 1000 yard effort to save time and because I haven't done anything over 500 yards continuous in months. Came in at 16:20 which was a 1000 yard PR for me and I really didn't push very hard. Followed that with 6 x 100 @ 1:29 RI :15. It was a good day for me. Edited by popsracer 2014-04-15 3:58 PM |
2014-04-15 4:20 PM in reply to: popsracer |
Extreme Veteran 2263 Ridgeland, Mississippi | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge I was merely a N this week. I swam during lunch today to get myself back on track. Due to the time crunch, I had to compress the set some: 350m WU 5x50m drill/swim 10x100 moderate RI:5 3x150 VO2 RI:60 5x50 Kick 100m CD 2400m total
The VO2 was supposed to be 6, but I was getting limited in time, and I wanted to make sure I got the kick portion in. |
2014-04-15 4:53 PM in reply to: msteiner |
Pro 6520 Bellingham, WA | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by msteiner I was merely a N this week. I swam during lunch today to get myself back on track. Due to the time crunch, I had to compress the set some: 350m WU 5x50m drill/swim 10x100 moderate RI:5 3x150 VO2 RI:60 5x50 Kick 100m CD 2400m total
The VO2 was supposed to be 6, but I was getting limited in time, and I wanted to make sure I got the kick portion in. I'm curious how you get in 2400 meters during lunch. For me, the pool is about a mile from my office. If I am quick, I can walk out to my car, drive to the pool, change, shower and be in the pool in about 15 minutes. Same for my return. I'm lucky then to have 30-35 minutes in the water. Thus I'm only getting 1600-1800 yard in. What is your lunch swim timeline like? |
2014-04-15 7:58 PM in reply to: Lovey |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by Lovey Went for a run this morning but it was pouring rain. I was going to brave it but no one else was on board. I had my swim gear in the car so decided to go for a swim. 1x50 swim 1x50 kick 1x50 pull 1x1200 Total: 1350 yards I am again between weeks in this program. I was planning to do week 6 (day 1), so after the short warm up, I started in. When I got to 1000 yards, I felt tired but ok. After I got to 1200 yards, I was really tired and I could feel my form faltering so I called it quits. I think I am going to drop back to week 5 for the next week or 2 and see if I can get comfortable again. This is what happens when you miss workouts! WEEK five: 1000 yards...rest for 8 breaths 4 x 100 yards...rest for 4 breaths between 100s 4 x 50 yards...rest for 4 breaths between 50s total: 1600 yards WEEK six (days 1 and 2): 1200 yards...rest for 6 breaths 3 x 100 yards...rest for 4 breaths between 100s 3 x 50 yards...rest for 4 breaths between 50s (day 3) 1650 yards straight (equals 1500 meters) total: 1650 yards! It sounds like you are progressing, even with some missed workouts. Keep at it, and keep us posted. I love hearing about your improvements! |
2014-04-15 7:58 PM in reply to: popsracer |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by popsracer Woot-woot! Very nice Steve :)Work has been crazy busy making it tough to get as much time in the pool during my lunch hour as I'd like. I wanted to swim yesterday but couldn't take the time. Today I had a narrow window to get a quick swim in. Planned to do a 400 warmup and then short sets. After about 300 yards I decided to turn it into a 1000 yard effort to save time and because I haven't done anything over 500 yards continuous in months. Came in at 16:20 which was a 1000 yard PR for me and I really didn't push very hard. Followed that with 6 x 100 @ 1:29 RI :15. It was a good day for me.
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2014-04-15 8:05 PM in reply to: switch |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Purpose: Birthday set! I believe this is technically week 5 of the challenge, and it was supposed to only go for four weeks, but it sounds like a lot of people have successfully increased their swim frequency and many have also increased their endurance or times! Go us! I had a craptastic week last week and was n - 2 from sickness, but I am having a strong week this far and hope to rally. Good luck everyone! |
2014-04-15 8:10 PM in reply to: switch |
Member 119 Ledyard, CT | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge I got my n this evening. I did some pacing work again; nothing too spectacular as I was pressed for time. I'm still having trouble getting the right pace early on in my workouts; I'm usually quite a bit faster than I should be. That said, I'm settling down much faster. 4 x 100 1 x 200 12 x 50 on 1:00 1 x 400 |
2014-04-15 8:20 PM in reply to: switch |
Member 119 Ledyard, CT | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by switch Purpose: Birthday set! I believe this is technically week 5 of the challenge, and it was supposed to only go for four weeks, but it sounds like a lot of people have successfully increased their swim frequency and many have also increased their endurance or times! Go us! I had a craptastic week last week and was n - 2 from sickness, but I am having a strong week this far and hope to rally. Good luck everyone! Happy Birthday!!! Very strong work, congrats on a great workout! Regarding the challenge....I'm loving it! In fact, I realized today that technically the challenge was over and I was pretty bummed about it. If keeping this thread alive is on the table, you have my vote! |
2014-04-15 10:48 PM in reply to: switch |
Pro 6520 Bellingham, WA | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by switch Purpose: Birthday set! I believe this is technically week 5 of the challenge, and it was supposed to only go for four weeks, but it sounds like a lot of people have successfully increased their swim frequency and many have also increased their endurance or times! Go us! I had a craptastic week last week and was n - 2 from sickness, but I am having a strong week this far and hope to rally. Good luck everyone! Wow. That is an amazing workout. 40 x 100 at that pace is serious stuff. Hope you are having a wonderful birthday. Once again, this challenge was perfect timing for me as I progressed beyond my winter run focus. It has been great seeing folks workouts. I've learned a great deal and have changed the basic structure of my workouts. I struggled a little ramping up beyond my n but I think I'm mentally at a goal of three now. So if I can keep some run and swim momentum going I think I need to focus now on increasing my saddle time. Not great timing though as I'll be in the Caribbean for a week on a cruise. |
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