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 2011-06-09 9:54 AM in reply to: #3111494 |
Elite  3518    Madison, Wisconsin |  Subject: RE: Ford Ironman Wisconsin : Official Threadhttp://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=255762&posts=1#M3540650 Looking for riders on Sunday!!! Supposed to be sunny and 70! |
| 2011-06-13 12:42 PM in reply to: #3111494 |
Master 1303 Mishicot, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: Ford Ironman Wisconsin : Official Thread All is quiet.... hope that means everyone is out training! Hopefully our weather will stay down one course and not keep on riding a roller coaster! Training is picking up... having trouble fitting in everything and not be exhausted. How is everyone else doing??? |
| 2011-06-14 8:12 AM in reply to: #3546479 |
Regular 131 St. Cloud, MN | Subject: RE: Ford Ironman Wisconsin : Official Thread My training is going OK. The last couple of days I've been recovering from my first HIM, which went well. It feels good to know I can at least do half the distance. I'm looking to get back on track this week. My schedule has been rough lately with a bunch of traveling but that's about to end soon. I'm looking forward to doing the course during the WIBA weekend! I hope everyone else is doing well! |
| 2011-06-14 9:31 AM in reply to: #3111494 |
| 23 | Subject: RE: Ford Ironman Wisconsin : Official Thread What's up Iron people. I have a dilemma. I'm signed up for Wisconsin, but pulled off a 4:59 at the Kansas 70.3 on Sunday and then qualified for the World Championships in Vegas based on the roll down. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut every once in a while. I went ahead and paid for the slot for Vegas. However, both events are on the same day. Given that I will likely not qualify for the World Championships in anything ever again (not even poker), should I forgo Wisconsin and go to Vegas or stick with my original plan and go to Madison? I did my first Ironman last year in Louisville and it was brutal. I threw up at mile 3 in the marathon, never really recovered, ran an Oprah Winfrey marathon and finished in 13:45. I have unfinished business in the Ironman world. However, this might be my one shot to go to the World Championships 70.3. I can certainly try and sign up for another Ironman next year (the good Lord willing), but you never know. All you wise triathletes, what sayeth you? |
| 2011-06-14 11:54 AM in reply to: #3111494 |
| Expert 821 Golden, CO | Subject: RE: Ford Ironman Wisconsin : Official Thread BIKE QUESTION. I am planning on doing Wisconsin and based on previous discussions have decided to do it on my road bike. I was told by a lot of people that the Wisconsin course would not be as big of an issue using a road bike compared to say Florida which is flat. I am now having second thoughts and would need to get a tri bike ASAP to get enough training in on it if I were to change over. My question is whether changing to a tri bike will make that much of a difference for Wisconsin. I am a heavier guy at 215 (although I am 30 lbs lighter than 3 months ago) back of the packer and only hoping to finish this year due to some knee issues...16:59:59 would be fine with me. I was planning on riding my carbon fiber road bike without the clip ons..although I definitely could throw a pair on. My other option is a cannondale slice or trek speed concept. Let me know your two cents on whether it will be worth it to invest in a tri bike. Thanks. |
| 2011-06-14 12:56 PM in reply to: #3548522 |
Veteran 345 Indiana | Subject: RE: Ford Ironman Wisconsin : Official Thread jdbadger - 2011-06-14 11:54 AM BIKE QUESTION. I am planning on doing Wisconsin and based on previous discussions have decided to do it on my road bike. I was told by a lot of people that the Wisconsin course would not be as big of an issue using a road bike compared to say Florida which is flat. I am now having second thoughts and would need to get a tri bike ASAP to get enough training in on it if I were to change over. My question is whether changing to a tri bike will make that much of a difference for Wisconsin. I am a heavier guy at 215 (although I am 30 lbs lighter than 3 months ago) back of the packer and only hoping to finish this year due to some knee issues...16:59:59 would be fine with me. I was planning on riding my carbon fiber road bike without the clip ons..although I definitely could throw a pair on. My other option is a cannondale slice or trek speed concept. Let me know your two cents on whether it will be worth it to invest in a tri bike. Thanks. I would say that if you dont already have a tri bike, I wouldnt go buy one for this race. I dont want to get into the advantages / disadvantages of a tri bike vs a road bike for this course. If you have both, I can see where it would be somewhat of a delima. However, I would say that any advantage is minimal, and I would not purchase a new bike just to race. That being said, I am always up for people buying new bikes, so if your ultimate goal is to buy a tri bike, and you are just going to move your time frame up, then by all means!!!  However, if you are hoping to purchase a great amount of advantage, I dont think you will find it on this course. |
| 2011-06-14 12:58 PM in reply to: #3548120 |
Veteran 345 Indiana | Subject: RE: Ford Ironman Wisconsin : Official Thread Snyderman - 2011-06-14 9:31 AM What's up Iron people. I have a dilemma. I'm signed up for Wisconsin, but pulled off a 4:59 at the Kansas 70.3 on Sunday and then qualified for the World Championships in Vegas based on the roll down. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut every once in a while. I went ahead and paid for the slot for Vegas. However, both events are on the same day. Given that I will likely not qualify for the World Championships in anything ever again (not even poker), should I forgo Wisconsin and go to Vegas or stick with my original plan and go to Madison? I did my first Ironman last year in Louisville and it was brutal. I threw up at mile 3 in the marathon, never really recovered, ran an Oprah Winfrey marathon and finished in 13:45. I have unfinished business in the Ironman world. However, this might be my one shot to go to the World Championships 70.3. I can certainly try and sign up for another Ironman next year (the good Lord willing), but you never know. All you wise triathletes, what sayeth you? I would go to Vegas. You can race an IM any year, but this may be a once in a lifetime chance for you to race in a World Championship. As least thats what I would do, just my 2 cents.  Edited by kmwilliams 2011-06-14 12:58 PM |
| 2011-06-14 1:40 PM in reply to: #3548120 |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Ford Ironman Wisconsin : Official Thread Snyderman - 2011-06-14 9:31 AMWhat's up Iron people. I have a dilemma. I'm signed up for Wisconsin, but pulled off a 4:59 at the Kansas 70.3 on Sunday and then qualified for the World Championships in Vegas based on the roll down. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut every once in a while. I went ahead and paid for the slot for Vegas. However, both events are on the same day. Given that I will likely not qualify for the World Championships in anything ever again (not even poker), should I forgo Wisconsin and go to Vegas or stick with my original plan and go to Madison? I did my first Ironman last year in Louisville and it was brutal. I threw up at mile 3 in the marathon, never really recovered, ran an Oprah Winfrey marathon and finished in 13:45. I have unfinished business in the Ironman world. However, this might be my one shot to go to the World Championships 70.3. I can certainly try and sign up for another Ironman next year (the good Lord willing), but you never know. All you wise triathletes, what sayeth you? VEGAS VEGAS VEGAS VEGAS! |
| 2011-06-14 1:50 PM in reply to: #3548782 |
| 23 | Subject: RE: Ford Ironman Wisconsin : Official Thread Vegas it is. Maybe if I train like I am going to Wisconsin, the 70.3 will be easy (ha ha)... |
| 2011-06-14 3:22 PM in reply to: #3548522 |
Member 55 Milwaukee, WI | Subject: RE: Ford Ironman Wisconsin : Official Thread jdbadger - 2011-06-14 11:54 AM BIKE QUESTION. I faced the exact same question last year at this same time. I had been riding a road bike with clip-on aerobars. From a fit and comfort standpoint, it was the epitomy of "jack of all trades, master of none". I ended up getting a tri bike in early July. It took a couple weeks/longish rides to get the fit right, but I was all set before August rolled around. The 7-8 weeks I spent on the bike prior to IMWI seemed sufficient to adjust from roadie to tri. I'm not much smaller than you. I don't think my tri bike helped me finish the bike leg much faster than on a road bike (a little faster maybe). I really think the difference was in comfort. I've done all my training this spring on my road bike (because it's what I'm riding in my first race), and I find that I REALLY miss the aero position - even on short 15-20 mile rides. All in all, I wouldn't do a thing differently - except get the bike at the beginning of the season! I see on your blog you mentioned Racine. Is that still on your schedule? Nice flat course to try out the new bike. It was my first race on the tri bike. Good luck! |
| 2011-06-14 4:19 PM in reply to: #3111494 |
Veteran 257 Iowa | Subject: RE: Ford Ironman Wisconsin : Official Thread I'm sure this has been discussed in previous details, but what is everyone using for cassette wise for IMMoo. I am currently riding a 12-25 but do have a 12-27. Would the 27 make more sense for the hills?? I guess I am just curious as to what others will be riding. |
| 2011-06-14 5:12 PM in reply to: #3111494 |
Champion 7163 Verona WI--Ironman Bike Country! | Subject: RE: Ford Ironman Wisconsin : Official Thread 12-27. Works well for me. PS. Shady Oak was repaved last week....one less bumpy road on the course! |
| 2011-06-14 9:08 PM in reply to: #3549187 |
Master 1348 Gurnee, IL | Subject: RE: Ford Ironman Wisconsin : Official Thread harleyclone - 2011-06-14 4:19 PM I'm sure this has been discussed in previous details, but what is everyone using for cassette wise for IMMoo. I am currently riding a 12-25 but do have a 12-27. Would the 27 make more sense for the hills?? I guess I am just curious as to what others will be riding.
I also have 12-25 and am getting a 12-27 shortly. So right there with ya on this. |
 2011-06-15 9:35 AM in reply to: #3549187 |
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| 2011-06-15 11:37 AM in reply to: #3549187 |
| Elite 3518 Madison, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: Ford Ironman Wisconsin : Official Thread harleyclone - 2011-06-14 4:19 PM I'm sure this has been discussed in previous details, but what is everyone using for cassette wise for IMMoo. I am currently riding a 12-25 but do have a 12-27. Would the 27 make more sense for the hills?? I guess I am just curious as to what others will be riding. I have a 12-27 on now. When I did IM Wis in 2009 I trained with a 12/23. Put the 12/27 cassette on a month before Ironman. I had to work harder on the hills when I trained but when it came to race day I could tell the difference. |
| 2011-06-15 12:44 PM in reply to: #3550192 |
| Veteran 257 Iowa | Subject: RE: Ford Ironman Wisconsin : Official Thread I'm certainly "not" in the 5:20 range. I'm guessing I will be looking for a 6:30 bike or so, possibily even 7 depending on how its going. I don't want to blow up on the run and have to walk the entire marathon. Thanks for all of the help. |
| 2011-06-15 12:59 PM in reply to: #3550192 |
| Bob 2194 Binghamton, NY | Subject: RE: Ford Ironman Wisconsin : Official Thread Fred Doucette - 2011-06-15 10:35 AM harleyclone - 2011-06-14 5:19 PM I'm sure this has been discussed in previous details, but what is everyone using for cassette wise for IMMoo. I am currently riding a 12-25 but do have a 12-27. Would the 27 make more sense for the hills?? I guess I am just curious as to what others will be riding. This is going to depend on a few key issues: 1. How fast do you plan on riding the course? It does matter as the 5 hour crowd is often served better by a certain cassette/crank combo than the 7 hour crowd for example. My opinion (having never riden IMWI but having done LPx3 and other hilly riding) is that most IM athletes are improperly geared. Many will ride a standard crank with a 12-25 cog as it comes standard on many bikes. *I* don't think this is a very good setup except for those who are planning on 5:20 or less on the bike, and even some of these folks like to ride easier gears or a compact crank. The % of people riding under 5:20 in an IM is fairly small (1-2% on non-flat IMs I would guess), so ask yourself are you part of the 1-2%? If yes, then standard with 12-25 *may* well be appropriate. If not then at a minimum I would recommend 12-27 or 28. Ideally I would recommend a compact crank for about 80-90% of people on a course like IMWI or IMLP.
X2 - Very well put Fred! |
| 2011-06-15 4:01 PM in reply to: #3111494 |
| over a barrier | Subject: RE: Ford Ironman Wisconsin : Official Thread 2007, basically new to cycling coming from a Swim and Run background: 53/39 & 12/27 I was under trained and over geared. Not a good combo. I think bike time was 6:50 or something. 2009, 50/34 and 12/25 was a great mix. Bike time was 5:57, but I spent 15 mins sitting on the side of the stagecoach waiting on a pump with a puncture and I Wellington'd my co2. Actual splite was around 6:15 with my flat. 2011. 50/34 and 11/26. I'll be off the bike in the 5:30 range maybe a tish faster assuming I don't have the same time out fixing a flat. I'm on the smaller side for doodes. 145'ish on race days. Cycling is my weakest area of the race. |
| 2011-06-16 2:57 PM in reply to: #3549187 |
| New user 52 Normal, IL | Subject: RE: Ford Ironman Wisconsin : Official Thread Man am I glad you brought this up. I did two "verona loops" last week and mashed the hills when I thought I should be spinning more. I checked my rear cassette and I'm running 12/23. I guess I should be happy about the extra training load they provide, but now I need to sink more $$ into more appropriate gearing. My front is 39/53, so I may just leave that alone. Hope training is going well for everyone and will see some of you @ WIBA next week. |
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| 2011-06-16 8:41 PM in reply to: #3553133 |
| New user 52 Normal, IL | Subject: RE: Ford Ironman Wisconsin : Official Thread And leave the cassette alone...or change that out also? Appreciate the advice. |
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| 2011-06-17 12:06 PM in reply to: #3553710 |
| Master 2638 | Subject: RE: Ford Ironman Wisconsin : Official Thread I was in the "I am tough enough to ride the standard crank" crowd, but DH bought (and installed) a compact crank for me and I LOVE it. Our town is very hilly and I am able to ride the hills faster (and go longer with less energy) on the compact crank than I was on the standard. |
| 2011-06-17 1:17 PM in reply to: #3554364 |
| Elite 3658 Roswell, GA | Subject: RE: Ford Ironman Wisconsin : Official Thread Mrs. brown_dog_us - 2011-06-17 1:06 PM I was in the "I am tough enough to ride the standard crank" crowd, but DH bought (and installed) a compact crank for me and I LOVE it. Our town is very hilly and I am able to ride the hills faster (and go longer with less energy) on the compact crank than I was on the standard. You married well. lol. Honestly, I should be riding a compact also, but I'm too cheap to swap it out. Fred is dead on about most folks over gearing for the hilly ironmans. |
| 2011-06-17 4:12 PM in reply to: #3553710 |
| New user 52 Normal, IL | Subject: RE: Ford Ironman Wisconsin : Official Thread Well, then I guess it's time to go shopping! Thanks. |
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