Creationism and Evolution Can Co-exist (Page 2)

Darwin's mom was a guy?

nj newbie! - 2005-08-09 2:34 PM  It is hard NOT to get offended by it, especially when evolution is NOT a HARD FACT! (my spelling is really bad )

Actually, YES, evolution is a fact. The earth is littered with evidence of this fact that evolution occurs. You might disagree with the theory of evolution but the fact of evolution is uncontested, except by you it would seem.

May I suggest that you could get fewer responses inferring that you are "stupid or unscientific or irrational or believe a farytail (sic)"  by not telling people that their beliefs are wrong and also by not typing it in caps which is the equivalent of yelling at them.

You're being overly confrontational and then complaining when you get an in kind response.

Edited by marmadaddy 2005-08-09 3:05 PM

Where in that statement does the writer refer specifcally to your God? I see nothing making fun of your beliefs, or your God, only a point of discussion being made. A somewhat silly one maybe, but this is not an insult to your beliefs or God.

Your use of the possesive indicates that you acknowledge a personal belief in and relationship with a higher being. If that is the case, then you why would you get upset when someone describes their own vision of God simply because it differs from yours? How is that disrespectful?

Excellent post! Michele is right in her original post: these things can coexist. What it takes is understanding of other's beliefs, but not being afraid to discuss them, without judgement, like rational people. That's why I love, love, love this forum. With very few exceptions, we do just that.

The original post on this thread has nothing to do with teaching creationism in public school. Quite the contrary, it started as an example of evolution being taught in a Sunday School class.

Interesting perspective found here. I like the honesty of what he says - that evolution is a threat to people who believe in creationism. That's why it's a hot topic. That's why people get hot under the collar about it. That's why people like the Discovery Institute Christians want it in the public schools - to counteract the threat that evolution is to their belief system.

http://slate.msn.com/id/2124297/

Evolution vs. Religion
Quit pretending they're compatible.
By Jacob Weisberg

"So, what should evolutionists and their supporters say to parents who don't want their children to become atheists and who may even hold firm to the virgin birth and the parting of the Red Sea? That it's time for them to finally let go of their quaint superstitions? That Darwinists aren't trying to push people away from religion but recognize that teaching their views does tend to have that effect? Dennett notes that Darwin himself avoided exploring the issue of the ultimate origins of life in part to avoid upsetting his wife Emma's religious beliefs.

One possible avenue is to focus more strongly on the practical consequences of resisting scientific reality. In a world where Koreans are cloning dogs, can the U.S. afford—ethically or economically—to raise our children on fraudulent biology? But whatever tack they take, evolutionists should quit pretending their views are no threat to believers. This insults our intelligence, and the president is doing that already."