Presidential Election Poll (Who would you vote for NOW?) (Page 2)

There are 120+ responses and I don't think there are anywhere near 120 people who comment on these threads.

That's pretty funny itself. I see COJ as very right-leaning and conservative. I am not at all surprised by the results.

You are making two presuppositions that for the most part do not hold true.

The first is that an individual's vote matters. In national elections, an individual's vote is practically meaningless. Unless you live in one of the 12 or so counties in the country that are truly close in presidential elections. Local elections, that's another matter. Maybe state elections your vote will have some sway. But given the rate of incumbency re-elections, probably not.

The second is that the president has the power to make a big difference in a lot of things. This Freakonomics episode, talking to a number of economists, suggests otherwise. Yes, the president can pack the supreme court. But over time, most of the courts have ended up shifting mostly to the middle politically. He (and one day, she) can engage other countries - but any deals have to be agreed upon by congress. He can go to war - again, in most circumstances, the call would be the same no matter who is president (think entering WWII after Pearl Harbor, or war in Afghanistan after 9/11). 

I respect the office, and I think it is great that we have a system where our international representative gets switched up often. But I harbor few illusions that my personal vote matters to effect outcomes.

So what if no one voted?  I'm asking.....I don't have any preconceived idea.  You say a personal vote doesn't matter, and I feel that way sometimes, although I always vote.  What if none of us did?

But that isn't what actually happens. Even with the fairly low voter turnouts, an individual's vote in national elections rarely makes much difference (again, there are a few counties in the country where this is not going to be true). You might as well as what would happen if everyone who went to a restaurant ordered the same meal - wouldn't they run out of it. It doesn't happen.

One of the Freakonomics books discusses this greater detail. 

Wheres the Kang and Kodos poll?

It's true. They are aliens. But what are we going to do about it? It's a two party system. We have to vote for one of them.

Wondering if anyone has changed there mind who they would vote for since the debates started?

Why did you make two entries for Obama in the poll scoobs?

It's a legitimate questions isn't it?

http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2011/08/04/communist-party-usa-endorses-obama-democrats-for-2012/

Frankly, I'm getting tired of this garbage.  Your continued belittling of the Democrat party is getting old.

Jenna Jameson endorsed Romney.  Does that make him a porn star?

White Surpremist group endoreses Ron Paul.  Does that make him a member of the KKK?

Perhaps you should start a poll in the nutritional cafe... I'm guessing most of the tree-huggers hang out over there, since there are so many threads about being vegetarian.  I bet you'll find Barry wins by 10 to 1.

Yes and yes. What do I win?

Why wouldn't they endorse their own candidate?

I'm not really sure what you mean?

How am I belittling the Democrat Party?

Have you looked at the cpusa.org web site to compare what the CPUSA stand for and what their goals and objectives are?

Tony, first I want to thank you for spelling my name correctly. 

Well yes it is old but never the less the CPUSA has been a registered party since I think 1916. You make it sound like they are some foreign and radical fringe group, when in fact the majority of their goals and objectives are pretty much the same as President Obama's.

One of the main principals of Communism is a strong central govt. and weak, little or no local government. Quite the opposite of what our founding fathers set up in the 1700s and warned us against. Which one does our current country look more like today? What has been the trend for the last 50 years, growing/bigger or shrinking Federal Govt.?

From what I read President Obama is their candidate. 

It isn't just this thread.  You continue to belittle liberals/progressives with demeaning comments instead of commenting directly on the subject of the thread.  It is a tired tactic and really does nothing for your argument about the topic.  For me, it degrades when you might actually have thoughtful comments to make, which you do sometimes.  You make me think.  I don't always agree, but you make me think, and that is a good thing.  But when you continue to make statements like that, it makes me less likely to take what you say seriously.

So to take your question to its ridiculous extreme, you didn't answer my questions.  What about those endorsements?