Teen suing parents for financial support (Page 2)

I am an old man.  A grumpy old man.  Damn kids.  When I was young.....

Here you go Josh:  https://fafsa.ed.gov/fotw1314/help/fahelp29a.htm

Note: Although students whose parents refuse support are not eligible for a dependency override, the Higher Education Opportunity Act of 2008 (HEOA) granted that such students may receive unsubsidized Stafford loans only. For a student to be eligible for this provision you must get documentation (1) the parents refuse to provide information on the FAFSA and (2) that they do not and will not provide any financial support to the student. Include the date support ended. If the parents refuse to sign and date a statement to this effect, you must get documentation from a third party (the student himself is not sufficient), such as a teacher, counselor, cleric, or court. As noted above, this situation does not justify a dependency override.

They still only get unsubsidized Stafford loans that start accruing interest immediately but can get student loans.  Even if your dad is Bill gates you get $5k in subsidized Stafford loans (no interest in deferment), but anything over that is based on your EFC unless you have a special circumstance outlined above.

The other piece is that the EFC is based on all children.  I'm in a situation right now where my oldest is a Freshmen in college and our EFC is over $25k and his total tuition and housing is around $21k.  So, he has $5k on a Stafford Subsidized loan and the rest is on a private loan (or paid out of pocket).  However, once his brother starts school (in 2 years) we'll still likely have the same EFC but combined the kids will be at $42k, so they'll each be eligible for roughly $10k each in subsidized Stafford loans.

The system is really jacked up because our oldest will get jacked for two years on unsubsidized loans.  The middle one will skate out almost completely and our youngest will get jacked on the back end when both of her brothers graduate.  It's a crazy system that makes no sense.  Kind of like all other "fairness" programs.

Ha!   You know, I think every middle aged and older person has probably said something along the lines of "the disturbing part of this whole thing is the entitlement of this generation".......along with "TURN THAT $HIT DOWN!!!"   

Still, from what I see.....we're in good hands with these kids as our future.

I thought that with the ACA that 26 was the new 18? What's wrong with these parents abandoning this poor girl? 

It's child abuse, straight up!!

I drove my son tonight to meet a charter bus, along with 28 of his teammates, on it's way to a USA swimming Sectional Championship meet in Jenks, Ok.  Those 29 kids, and thousands like them across the country, are up at 4am most mornings to make a swim practice before school.  Many of them also participate in after school sports and still manage to get their homework done and keep their grades up.  They don't know what a Friday night party is because they also have to be up at 5 am on Saturday.  Their teachers love them, their friends (and even those who are on the wrong path) respect them, and they prop each other up on days that don't go well.  They have already learned the value of hard work and sacrifice....and standing up to brush yourself off.  They are not featured on CNN, most of us will never know their names, and they measure the success of hundreds of miles of swimming and hard work in 1/1000 of a second of improvement....and rejoice in those small gains.  Most of them will come home on Sunday disappointed that they didn't get their Jr. National cuts......and Monday they will be back at the pool to keep trying to be better.

No matter what you read....they are, and always have been, a part of the next generation that keeps our way of life moving forward.  "Teen Suing Parent" would crack them up.

I'm not worried.

I have to agree with LB, but simply from a statistical outlook. News is consistently bringing up the lower end of society. I figure there are roughly 4,000,000 people her age in America, give or take a few. How many stories about the good kids do we not hear about? How many of them are going to do the work they need to do every day? How many go on mission trips to help orphans in third world countries?  How many are giving of themselves in our own towns, working in soup kitchens or with Habitat for Humanity or the like?  How many are in research facilities, looking for answers that we struggle with daily like cancer, heart diesease, and such? I feel much better about our future after I do the math.

As I said, I'm not either. Both my kids were involved in FIRST Robotics. They gave up nights and weekends to build their robots and travel to competitions. Imagine a stadium completely filled with kids working on robots, and the stands filled with supporters cheering for their teams. Building the robots require skills from welding and machining to CAD and programming. The kids come from all backgrounds, but the one thing they have in common is that they are all motivated and smart. LB sums it up perfectly.

I had no idea there was such a thing....that's really cool. Unfortunately, when you put all of us together at the dinner table our collective IQ can't come together to even spell robotics. 

Wait......what?

You just lied. Shame on you! Actually, look up some of  the video, they are incredibly cool. And in case you didn't know, I'm a geek, which is an inheritable trait. What's funny is my kids are taking entirely different career paths (Chef and an Engineer), but both have known what they wanted to do since the start of High School. How many of us can say that?

I did look it up, and it IS cool as hell. 

Your kids are lucky.....I also knew what I wanted to do from the time I was a very young boy.  I have never once in my life felt like I was going "to work".

Yeah.....................I think.

My 6th grade teacher told me she thought I would be a scientist when I grew up. She was half right

I was thinking about this. I know drive comes from within, but my parent's always worked hard, and I and my ex always worked hard. The kids are surrounded by other students who competed to get into these programs. If you're surrounded by success (however you want to measure that), it increases the odds dramatically. The opposite also holds true.

Absolutely not.  The articles I've read from American news outlets seem to just be focused the overall lawsuit in general, but the Daily Mail has a thorough write-up of the whole case and back story.  She's thrown out some real serious allegations; physical, mental, and sexual abuse.  That's not the kind of stuff you claim against your parents just to avoid some college bills.  

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2574016/EXCLUSIVE-Now-PARENTS-war-Father-boyfriend-accused-corrupting-cheerleader-whos-suing-mom-dad-furiously-hits-claims-drove-home-drunk-3-30am.html