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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I think part of the issue is timing......I'm doing my first in 12 weeks, and signed up for my second today - because if I wait until after I (hopefully) survive my first, 2010 is almost over! Hubby's first was IM Canada last year, IMWI this year will be second. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I was one of the 864(?) first-timers at IMCdA yesterday. 2032 finished (prelim results showed DNF's too, I'm guessing 2300 started and 2400-2500 were registered. ) I think this was more an acknowledgement of us (and somehow help make us less anxious) than a "good" trend. I'd guess CdA is more "novice friendly" because it doesn't sell out so quickly. Am I done with IM? Probably not, but I may not do another one for 2-3 years because it takes a lot of time away from my family to train.
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() PennState - 2009-06-22 7:00 PM geoffs - 2009-06-22 6:53 PM I can see that happening( people doing one). I'm doing my first this year(lp) and I doubt that I will ever do another. The time commitment is huge and it takes me away from family way too much. In addition, there are a lot of other challenges in life to experience. I don't have the available time to be fast at Ironman distance so I'm going to be in steady/survival mode which I think anyone can do. Racing Ironman ( like pennstate and others ) is very impressive. It is what it is. Geoff Great post. you make a very valid arguement about time committment. I wonder as does KathyG about the people that leave multi-sport altogether. But as you say there are different challenges in life to take on. IMs are just 1 of many things to take on, as is triathlon. I might leave multi-sport all together in August after I do an IM. I might stay in it for 20 years. No idea. For now, I'm having fun pushing myself way out of my comfort zone. But I'm the first to admit I'm not exactly fond of 2 out of the 3 sports, and so much solo training is really not my thing either. But for now, I'm happy. Doesn't really surprise me though that a lot of people are one and done. People who do IMs....not exactly the type to settle for small goals. For me, so many other things in life that I can't wait to try or goals I want to achieve....learning to wakeboard, learning to play guitar, doing 10 pull-ups. All kinds of stuff. So, leaving the sport for me won't be a bad thing at all. It will mean I'm ready to move onto other things that bring me the exact same thrill this sport did. |
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![]() PennState - 2009-06-22 6:37 PM McFuzz - 2009-06-22 9:02 PM I was one of the 864(?) first-timers at IMCdA yesterday. 2032 finished (prelim results showed DNF's too, I'm guessing 2300 started and 2400-2500 were registered. ) I think this was more an acknowledgement of us (and somehow help make us less anxious) than a "good" trend. I'd guess CdA is more "novice friendly" because it doesn't sell out so quickly. Am I done with IM? Probably not, but I may not do another one for 2-3 years because it takes a lot of time away from my family to train.
Hey how are you? Great IM performance btw! ![]() I think it's very neat that they tell you the # of 1st timers... it made me feel less over-whelmed at my 1st one. IM training can be VERY self-consuming and egocentric, which can be bad. I think the questions I was wondering aloud were to open a discussion like the one that has alreadt occurred. My intention was never to make this an "IM snob... one and doners are ruining the sport" thread. It was really to see the other side of the story... ie; if all these new participants are in (and yes they have added a few new IMs) each race, what happened to the ones that did it last year? . Fred, you read way too much into my post. apologize for not playing well with others, but I think you got a bit defensive. As were you, I was just asking a question, is all. that is all. carry on, I won't sully the thread further Edited by ChrisM 2009-06-22 11:47 PM |
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Member![]() ![]() | ![]() hey 10 pull ups for a gal ain't easy you know!! One year at uni I spent each night working on my pull ups. couldn't go past 8. you go gopennstate-girl!! |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I have never done an IM, but even at the shorter distances, time management can be a nightmare. I looked at the CdA site today and as of this afternoon the registration was still open...for $550. To some of you who are doctors and lawyers and other well-salaried professionals, this is probably 2 days wages, but to someone like me who balances the budget on a government employees salary, this is not so easy. However, I will say this. If I (or anybody for that matter), wanted it bad enough, then I would just find a way to put the time in and save up the money. It is my goal to do an IM within the next three years.
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() PennState - 2009-06-23 5:27 AM Chris, apology accepted, and I apologize myself ![]() (nature of internet communication I guess)
If you gals are done making nice, can we move on with the discussion?! :-)
I think the consensus is because the time, money, energy commitment of an ironman is huge, perhaps many people don't think it's worth it a second time around. That is, the reward of #2 is simply not big enough to stay committed/focused/motivated again. I think the DNS rate for 2nd timers is higher than for fist timers. Becuase for many IM event you have to sign up a year in advance, I think many first timers, are still caught up in the glory of crossing the finishline, sign up again...but later decided they don't want to invest that much of their lives again. Being a DNS myself this year, I'm intested in my DNS rates are so high at IM....most are like 20 to 25% DNS. Injury, pregnacy, moving to a different part of the county, got caught up in the excitement of IM and bit off more than they were ready for, work situations that don't allow training,....life.... ~Mike
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I've been saying for quite awhile to triathletes starting out.. If you want to get out of shape, do a Ironman. I've seen it so many times where people are in their second year of triathlons and sign up for a Ironman. They aren't ready to train properly for one and get burned out physically and even more so mentally. They go and shuffle through the race and never come back. |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I'm not sure that the 50% first timer stat really say's anything about IM in general, good or bad. Certainly over the last few years, the growth of IM participation, expansion of number of race entrants, and the addition of new events has allowed for a marked increase in those who will be doing the race for the first time. We should also take into consideration that those that do multiple IM's per year or at the least one every year is probably relatively small. That's not to say they won't be back after a hiatus. I took last year off, so in theory I was off the IM radar screen of participation. But I am back this year as I'm sure are many others so these kind os statistics are fluid and are evolving. During an expansion of the brand, growth will always mean a huge influx of first timers. The trick will be to keep them coming back opver time. That metrics we haven't seen yet and won't know until the growth slows. So, I don't think we can conclude anything yet as far as the long term participatuion rates vs. those that do an IM and then leave the distance for good. |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Maybe I am off based, but the economy might have something to do with it. People are penny pinching. Maybe veterans are waiting till they have more money. These races are EXPENSIVE!! Not including the airfare, lodging, food, car rental. Also some of the "Iron Distance" races are sometimes half the price if not more off of the sponsored IM race. Ohio has a HIM race for $90, alot cheaper then Steelhead. |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() The time commitment is part of it but you can fit IM training around your family life. It may mean a lot of 4am training but it can be done. I would think that the money side of it is the bigger issue. Entry fee, airfair, car rental, hotel, meals.... I've done IMCDA 5 times because it's in my backyard. If I had to travel to an IM I might be a one-and-done or at least multi-year between races. |
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Giver![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Velcromom touched on it, but no one has really made this point: for most IM races (ironically, CdA being one of the few exceptions), in order to do next year's race you have to sign up immediately after this year's race. And for most folks (me at least), immediately after finishing an IM your first thought isn't usually OMG! I have to do another one of these! So...inthe post-race fog, next year's race gets closed out before you can wrap your head around doing another. Also, for lots of people, IM races are destination events, and I can see how folks would want to move on to races in differetn locations. |
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Coach![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() That's easy; HIM/70.3 is where the cool kids play ![]() |
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