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 2009-07-07 11:14 AM in reply to: #2266395 |
Expert  1123   Columbus |  Subject: RE: Run etiquette?agarose2000 there is a very real and definite advantage in drafting. watch elite / collegiate / olympic footage of any race greater than 880 and you can watch athletes very purposefully drafting. - more true if there is wind but important even on a calm day. oh and to the original post: i just remembered i have had to say on your left in races - it happens when going through a narrow trail or a race that loops so I have to pass joggers and walkers who a going slow 4 abreast. |
| 2009-07-07 11:17 AM in reply to: #2266395 |
Elite 5316 Alturas, California | Subject: RE: Run etiquette? I have said on your left on the run in a race when we were on a bikepath and there were a lot of folks in both lanes all coming together, like 3 in each lane nearly side by side, so 6 total and it looked like the person I was about to pass was about to cut left into me just as I was coming up to pass him and it might have gotten ugly. I said it just so he would know I was there and as it looked like he was going to move right into me as he was going to go left of the person in front of him. So usually you don't say it, but if you expect a collision it does not hurt to let someone know you are there. Some people on the course are remarkably unaware of what is going on around them by the time you get to the run. |
| 2009-07-07 11:21 AM in reply to: #2266395 |
Elite 3315 Miami | Subject: RE: Run etiquette? regarding drafting. last couple of races, i get behind someone in my age group that got off the bike and keep getting behind the next person that passes us. its a huge mental benefit to me, not really care in a race if they like it or not. if you can hear someone breathing in a race....you are not going hard enough imo. because only thought that goes through my head is "please god, let this end" |
| 2009-07-07 12:02 PM in reply to: #2266463 |
Expert 1123 Falls Church, VA | Subject: RE: Run etiquette? agarose2000 - 2009-07-07 2:55 AM Not an issue on the run unless it's a super-tight squeeze. In fact, it may be seen as annoying and show-offy by some sensitive folks. Just do your pass and keep moving. "Drafting" is also seen by most runners as annoying, as there's no real speed gain from it, and they hear you breathing down their neck. On the bike, I do it mainly if I think the person ahead really doesn't expect someone to be coming up from behind. In a race, they generally do - it's more of an issue on training rides, though do be careful around turns. Oh, I've drafted off of a big guy against a headwind, while it wasn't faster, I was sure able to conserve my energy for a while. Funny story though, I had a little lady keep blocking me when I tried to pass her in a for-charity 5k last fall.. We had to stick to a pretty narrow path and she kept moving left and right as i was trying to just gradually go by her, eventually I had to put on the jets to get by her.. what a waste of energy. |
| 2009-07-07 12:34 PM in reply to: #2266395 |
Master 1359 South of SLC | Subject: RE: Run etiquette? All of this discussion on passing -- I just find good pace booty and try to hang on. Mike |
| 2009-07-07 3:55 PM in reply to: #2266961 |
Pro 6767 the Alabama part of Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Run etiquette? smilford - 2009-07-07 9:54 AM I'll let out a odd sounding grunt.  Are you sure it's coming out that end? |
| 2009-07-07 3:58 PM in reply to: #2266395 |
Master 2167 Livonia, MI | Subject: RE: Run etiquette? No need to say anything. A nice smack on the a$$ should do just fine. |
| 2009-07-07 4:05 PM in reply to: #2266395 |
Regular 80 Ft. Bragg, NC | Subject: RE: Run etiquette? Never had anyone say excuse me... but I have had someone say, "You look like you're running [GASP] from a mountain lion..." while they passed me. That was at the army 10 miler, and after I saw a few photos.... I concurred...  |
| 2009-07-07 5:18 PM in reply to: #2266565 |
Champion 5782 Northridge, California | Subject: RE: Run etiquette? Birkierunner - 2009-07-07 4:42 AM agarose2000 - 2009-07-07 1:55 AM In fact, it may be seen as annoying and show-offy by some sensitive folks. huh???????? Um...yeah...F the "sensitive" folks...sheesh. Honestly. I've been in situations on trail runs, esp. on downhills on narrow paths where, damn skippy, I'll say "on your left" or "passing"...esp. when it's some nimrod with earbuds in, clearly assuming the race is just their personal self-realization experience, oblivious to all around them. (Which I've seen depressingly often.) |
| 2009-07-07 5:30 PM in reply to: #2267112 |
Master 2158 | Subject: RE: Run etiquette? lisac957 - 2009-07-07 9:27 AM agarose2000 - 2009-07-07 1:55 AM "Drafting" is also seen by most runners as annoying, as there's no real speed gain from it, and they hear you breathing down their neck. Maybe it's mental, but I think there is a definite advantage on a super windy course running behind someone larger than yourself. As a 120lb female, I have staked out large dudes to stick behind more than once!  Seriously, as a large dude, I can't imagine anyone benefiting from being behind me. Anyone who is going to "draft" behind me on a run must be suffering. I know I am. And about passing, I rarely say anything. You can hear me coming about 400 meters away, even with an ipod blasting. |
| 2009-07-07 6:08 PM in reply to: #2268415 |
| Regular 281 | Subject: RE: Run etiquette? noelle1230 - 2009-07-07 4:58 PM No need to say anything. A nice smack on the a$$ should do just fine. This post makes the most sense of any post so far. I've never heard someone say "on your left/right" while running (and I get passed a ton). I think it's mainly because in a race people tend to maintain a straight line vs a biker who might suddenly move left/right to avoid an obstacle in the roadway/trail. I was recently in a race with roughly 55,000 runners and I didn't hear on your left or right once. |
| 2009-07-08 1:29 AM in reply to: #2266395 |
Master 2665 The Whites, New Hampshire | Subject: RE: Run etiquette? In a race, I'll often go with a "How you doin'" or "Looking good" or "Great day, huh?" or some attempt at humor. One, I like to let them know I'm there. Two, I like to be briefly social. Non-race? Uh, no people on my runs. Except the lady the other day walking her cow. I did have a sticky situation at a Turkey Trot. I had two groups in front of me, staggered. One in the middle of the road (roads not closed, but rural, so we had the whole thing) has two women walking, seemingly pretty serious about this affair. Other group is on the edge of the road, three women, walking along and chatting/laughing. I have plenty of space to pass the middle-road group then swing around the road-edge group. Until, right as I was about to draw abreast of the middle-road group, they started running. And squeezed me in between the two groups. Hmm, thanks. I got pretty chatty when passing after that, though most people back where I was had headphones on. |
| 2009-07-08 6:24 AM in reply to: #2266395 |
| Tyler, | Subject: RE: Run etiquette? Synon - 2009-07-06 11:37 PM I did a forum search and I couldn't find the answer to this... but is there any etiquette I should be aware of on the run? I know the bike portion you yell "on your left" or something similar to pass, would you do the same thing on the run portion though? On the bike I find my legs can push pretty hard and I'm not gasping for air, so yelling out is definitely do-able... but when I'm running at race pace my lungs are working so hard I find it very difficult to speak. When I ran cross country in highschool we never said anything, you just passed, but I could have sworn I saw someone here mention to use "on your left" during the run (I'm not exactly sure why). your thinking too hard dude, just freakin' run. |
| 2009-07-08 6:41 AM in reply to: #2266395 |
Master 1702 Southern Ontario | Subject: RE: Run etiquette? If they aren't running a straight line then I usually say "coming up on your left" so that they can stay over - sometimes people are all over the road. I used to congratulate people - but then I worried that it might seem condescending so now I don't say anything at all... |
| 2009-07-08 8:18 AM in reply to: #2267094 |
| Iron Donkey 38643 , Wisconsin | Subject: RE: Run etiquette? tri_d00d - 2009-07-07 9:22 AM Do you yell, "on top of you" on the swim? I don't yell anything on the run...I just pass.  No, but when having pizza , I don't either. |
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