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2005-06-27 11:43 AM
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H13 - 2005-06-27 10:22 AM

Bring an ice pick and take out his tires in transition area when he goes to swim area.


THANK YOU. I'm all for keeping a positive attitude and all, but come on, stick a tack in one of his tires. Brothers. They're all alike. When you're the only girl you learn to play dirty.


2005-06-27 11:50 AM
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1st things first.....Awesome job losing 82 lbs and making yourself healthier!

2nd thing, I'll bet that your BIL will blow up on the bike.  Most people can do one thing at a good pace for a while, but the ability and the training to go within your limits is quite another thing.  I say that even I can hang with Lance Armstrong......as long as the light stays red.....

You know what you can do and can maintain for the duration of these activities.  My guess is you will end up ahead in the end in awesome condition and proud of your performance.  Your family will recognize your accomplishments and your BIL will not get the accolades that you will.

You can always hope for the following to make you laugh during the day:

Your BIL drafts on the bike and gets penalized

Your BIL cant sight on the swim and gets way off course

Your BIL rides over the dismount line and gets penalized

Your BIL misses his swim wave

In the end...I think you will be waiting for him at the finishline because you are prepared!

2005-06-27 11:53 AM
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OldAg92 - 2005-06-27 10:47 AM

I'm gonna have my wife holding some extra water bottles for me on the course."  I politely expalined that this was a no no and would probably lead to DQ.  So, I guess anything is possible this weekend.

heh heh - you might want to clue him in on other "rules" such as drafting to save energy on the bike,  helmets optional, nobody minds nudity in the transition area, etc. >

Seriously - its your race. Don't let what your BIL does or doesn't do spoil your day. You have accomplished a great deal already and should be proud. You wouldn't be upset by some other unknown athlete's performance, why should your BIL be any different?

(FWIW - I think joeinco has it right. 24 mph w/o clips? Does he even have a computer on his bike?)

2005-06-27 12:01 PM
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OldAg92 - 2005-06-27 8:27 AM

... Everyone is planning on coming to cheer me on, knowing that I am a BOPer but proud none the less.



Read that part again! You already knew you were a BOPer but you could take pride in finishing. Now, one of the people finishing ahead of you might be someone you know, that's all. You and he can share the experience and later you can share the stories of the day. Where he finishes, and what he or any of the other people at the event did to prepare, doesn't change anything about what you wrote in this quote. If your family has reason to celibrate what your brother-in-law does too, don't look at it as taking away from your party but adding to the whole event for all of you. Read the quote again and finish YOUR race proudly! Have fun!


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2005-06-27 12:02 PM
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Brandt - I can echo a lot of the frustration you have here.... my 1st triathlon season has inspired 2 colleagues to get into the craze as well. I try to run my race and not be mindful of the fact that they can completely smoke me with minimal training.

Be the bigger triathlete - Give your BIL a nod and race your best. I'm thinking that the shock of an OW swim will be sufficiently traumatic... remember - you've been training like this:

http://www.weshobsonperformance.com/newsletter/commercial.html

He's just taken a few dips in the pool. He'll get out of that OW swim thinking.. "Why were they all hitting me!?"

I was really impressed with how fast you, Joe, and Bill were at the new Territory Tri in Sugarland - so, if it makes you feel better... just think - I'm where YOU were about 3 months ago. Remember, the race is long and in the end - it is against yourself.

Be strong brother - you are faster and better than you think.
2005-06-27 12:03 PM
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Tell him to position himself at the front of the pack on the swim start!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



2005-06-27 12:09 PM
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I had the exact same situation with my brother-in-law. He found out about my first race and decided to enter too. I liken it to the best man at a wedding announcing his engagement during his toast. It's stealing some thunder. Luckily I have a pretty good relationship with my brother-in-law and I simply expressed my feelings. That this was something that I had been training for for a long time, that for me being 240 pounds and completing a tri was a huge thing, that I was being a little selfish and wanted just some of the lime light for me on that day. He's a pretty cool guy so he understood, and decided not to run the race.

The plus side is he is still interested in traing for tri's and it does give me somethign in common with him whe there are family get togethers and we are going to run a couple of races next year together.

Try talking to your BIL if you have that type of relationship. But at some point you have to realize that it's not technically "your" race. If he wants to get involved with tri's you need to be as supportive of him as you have been of other BT members. He has just as much right to tri as any of us.
2005-06-27 12:14 PM
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2005-06-27 12:15 PM
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Hmm. For what it's worth, maybe you can change the way you view your BIL entering the tri in the first place. I don't know anything about your relationship with him, but assuming you guys are not super compettitive with one another over EVERYTHING, maybe he's entering the tri as a sort of ultimate show of support. You know- he admires you so much for what you've accomplished, he wants to be there, too.

Regardless of all that, though, remember, your family is making a big deal about it because YOU are doing it. He's only doing it because YOU'RE doing it. And, I bet at the end of the race, unless he's a total jerk, he'll tell you how much he admires you because it was harder than he expected. (And if he doesn't admit to it being hard, then he's too embarrassed to admit it to himself). I bet you'll get props from him and the rest of your fam when you're still competing at the end of the summer and he's still talking about that one tri he did that one time.

Just remember- you rock- people who do tri's are cool, he's just hoping some of your coolness will rub off on him!
2005-06-27 12:20 PM
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Man you're doing great, you're where I'd love to be next year.

Don't worry about other racers, even relatives, ya only have control over yourself.
His accomplishments do not replace or invalidate yours.

If my brother in law picked up this sport, he'd get there faster because he's starting halfway up the hill.
I hope I wouldn't get upset. After all, it's just someone else to have fun with on race day.

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2005-06-27 12:27 PM
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I think everyone has pretty much said it.

  1. Think where you've come from, and what you've accomplished.
  2. Don't compare yourself with your BIL.
  3. Training and racing are two different things.
  4. Putting it all together is harder then BIL knows.
  5. I think he's a little full of himself.  21 to 24 MPH? I don't think so.
  6. Last, but not least.  Actually most important.........

HAVE FUN!!!!!!!!!!!

2005-06-27 12:56 PM
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OldAg92 - 2005-06-27 10:27 AM

For those who don't know my story, this year has been the beginning of my "athletic life" after 35 years of being sedentary.  I've lost 82 pounds since January 22nd, thanks to tri training and to this site and all of you here.  I'm still a Clyde, but easily in the best shape of my life.  Given my history, just finishing these events is a good accomplishment for me.

Will someone (cue Tania) please give me an appropriate butt-kicking and put this into perspective?  Because it is really pissing me off right now.



Ok, I think your story should be enough! You are doing great, 82lbs!!!!! Working out after 35 years of being a couch potato!!!! WOW inspiring!
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I believe that people like your brother in law are prone to injuries because sports come easy to them. You have to respect the value of training! You are doing the right thing, baby steps, stay injure free... Just because you could do something doesn't mean you should do witout proper training.
I have a friend who started to train for a marathon, he pushed the envelope because he was a good runner and though that finishing wasn't enough, he wanted to be fast. I kept telling him to take it easy. He injured his knee. No marathon for him, he pushed to hard.
Do not worry about your brother in law, you have a race to take care of.
Good Luck!
2005-06-27 1:02 PM
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Thanks, everyone.  I am over my little tantrum and refocused on my preparations for the race this weekend (he says as he slips an ice pick into his transition bag )

Seriously, I appreciate everyone's comments.  I let some frustration, and probably a little selfishness, get in the way of what is really important.  And, if this wacko BIL of mine actually gets hooked on the sport like I have, I'll actually have someone else to race with next season.

2005-06-27 1:10 PM
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Man I HATE it when my stupid job interferes with my BT time - I miss the best posts!  Sorry to jump in late here, and all the good stuff has already been said - but heaven forbid I don't get to put my 2 cents in!

If someone did this to me my initial reaction would be to be really pissed off at them.  Everyone else can be as mature as they want to - good for them. So I don't blame you one bit. Now, the good news is - I think your BIL is possibly fudging on his bike average.  That is REALLY smoking fast for anyone, let alone a beginner. Secondly, did you say anything about his swim? That's that hardest part for the vast majority of beginners, so he may be in for some trouble there, and YOU, as we all know, have really worked hard on your swim and have some OW time under your belt, so I think it's almost certain you'll kick his (thunder stealing) butt on the swim. Then, 10 minute training miles do not necessarily equate to 10 minute race miles, and there's a chance he's fudging there, as well.

I think this guy is an unfortuate combination of insensitive, and jealous.  There's nothing you can do about that but wish him well and let him run his race while you run yours.  You can advise him if you feel that is the good karma thing to do, (which I agree, it really is), but as for any actual ASSISTS, forget about it.  Advice is one thing, offering to actually DO anything for him (lend him any of the numerous things he will forget at race time, anything like that) - FORGET IT!  He is on his own. And on race day, absolutely do NOT give into any dumb requests he might make about racing together.  No way, Jose.  Tell him you really want to go for a PR, so thanks but no thanks.

I really and truly with all my heart hope you KICK HIS ASS on race day - this will be a great motivator for you.  But fight the urge to beat yourself up or let it take anything away from your accomplishment if it does not work out that way.  Some people are just simply more naturally athletic than others - I have a friend who could go out tomorrow and kick my butt at anything I do.  You just have to keep repeating "this is not about him - it's about ME and all that I have achieved".  And check it out - imitation is the sincerest form of flattery even if it is done by a jerk.

Best of luck at your tri !!

2005-06-27 1:10 PM
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It's okay to be peeved.  You're human.

 

But AllieG makes a good point.  It's all about attitude.  Let's say this guy is a "natural athlete" and can actually bike 20+ mph and run 10 minute miles.  82 pounds ago, you would not have been competing with athletes!  Now, you are an athlete competing in athletic competitions, no longer a couch potato.

There's always someone better.  Compete against yourself.

Btw - I have a brother who can pick up any sport and beat me with no training.  Makes me sick...



2005-06-27 1:23 PM
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I would bet my paycheck your dear BIL is fibbing about his bike times.
And he hasn't been training nearly long enough to be prepared for how his body will balk at the run. Just keep focused on your preparation. Do your best and I bet your preparation will trump some of his athletic ability. And even if he finishes in front, I'll make another bet and say he'll be for $hit the rest of the day, and won't be able to move the next.

You've accomplished so much, this isn't even a bump in the road. And we all know, it's not just 3 different sports, it's pacing through 3 different sports.
2005-06-27 1:34 PM
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Now that Tania has arrived and mentioned the swim...I do have a funny story about that too.  I have asked my BIL two weeks ago what he was doing for swim training.  He  told me "I'm not worried about the swim...I swam a lot as a kid."  I asked my sister (his wife) about whether he was doing any lap swimming or anything, and she told me that he was going to try to do that this week....the race is Sunday.

So, there is a good chance that he will be doing a LOT of doggie paddling on sunday...it is a 750 meter swim.

2005-06-27 1:35 PM
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Brandt,

I know I have given you a tough time in the past because of your Aggie past, but I will tell you that you have accomplished a ton more than your BIL has. Think of all your training hours, all your hours studying and learning about our sport and the obvious benefit you have gained from that effort.

When I coach youth sports, I always tell my boys that there will always be someone bigger, faster and stronger than any of them on any given day. That is reality. Race your race and be proud of your accomplishment. You have the love and admiration of your family more so than this Lameo-Come-Lately. If you beat him, great. If he beats you, so what.

When you come to the finish line, try and stand up straight, zip up your tri top and smile for the pictures your family will undoubtably take. If you get beat, take photos with the BIL and be a gracious loser. Walk tall and proud.

You are a triathlete.

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2005-06-27 1:41 PM
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2005-06-27 1:42 PM
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Ahhh hahahahahahaha he "swam a lot as a kid!!!" HAHAahahhaaahaha!!!!!

I wish i lived nearby so i could watch this monkey!!
AHAHAH!!!


2005-06-27 1:52 PM
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Oh Lord....your semi-joking reference to the rescue kayaks dragging his ass out of the water may not be that far-fetched.

If he does get some pool time in this week, look for him to drop out of the race after his first dose of reality:

"*pant pant pant* Okay, how far was that?"
"Uh, 100 meters."
"How far is the race?"
"750."
"What?!?"
"Did I mention it's in open water where you can't touch....with no lane lines....and you can't see....and you're getting bumped and kicked...and you have to lift your head every once in a while to make sure you're going in the right direction?"

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2005-06-27 1:53 PM
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Ok, I can talk a little bit from experience here. I've been training since January, dropped 30lbs and ran my first Tri in early June. I work at a college and one of the recent grads (23 year old member of the wrestling team) sort of challenged me to the Tri race. He's in much better shape than I am at this point but I did the race any way. My goal was to finish. Well, racing is different and I think my training and the folks here really helped me out. I beat him in every phase of the race and over all by 10 minutes.

All I can say is run your own race and have fun. What ever the clock says at the end will tell the true story if he's full of it or not. Even if he does post a better time keep your accomplishments in focus. You've come a long way since you started, there's no way you can lose that.

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2005-06-27 1:58 PM
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OldAge92,

Your family has got to be smart enough to realize what you went through to get where you are took SIGNIFICANTLY more guts than someone who just jumped in and said'this is fun". Besides, you know what it takes now for the training and have stuck with it. If the brother-in-law does not stay with it soon you will kick his butt as you progress. Let people like him motivate you. Anybody can be a flash-in-the-pan one time star. You find out what people are made of when the going is tough, not easy like it apparently is for him. Hey, you may get a super training partner out of the deal as well!

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2005-06-27 2:11 PM
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OldAg92 - 2005-06-27 1:34 PM

He  told me "I'm not worried about the swim...I swam a lot as a kid." 

Yeah, I used to do a lot of cartwheels as a kid, doesn't make me a gymnast.  If you're in the same wave start you better start fast and get the hell away from him - he's likely to try to grab onto you to save himself!

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