No More TSA Body Scanners (Page 2)

I have to say, I just don't care.  

I've searched alot of people and seen alot of people searched.......there's really not much to it, or much discussion about it afterwards.  It's business.

I'm the same way.  In my case, working in the fitness industry I am often in very close proximity to people of all shapes and sizes to take their measurements.  As you say, it's business.  I've never been party to nor even overheard a conversation among trainers that judged someone they are working with.  We truly don't pay attention beyond gathering the numbers needed to perform the job.

WIN!

I forgot Tony was born a fully mature adult and was never "that kid."

Rules are that kids under 4'7" don't get scanned. But in the last 3 years, I haven't seen a single teenage girl get scanned. I've seen teenaged boys get scanned though.

I have gotten to the point that I don't mind the scanners. And they generally don't slow me down much. I do worry a bit about the cancer aspects because I fly a lot and getting zapped in addition to the flying itself doesn't bode well for my chances of avoiding cancer... (I read somewhere that a 2 hour flight gives you more rads than getting scanned 200x, but like someone said, calibration could change that).

You got any facts to support this or is it just your totally incorrect, ignorant, and uninformed opinion?

Backscatter machines (the ones that they removed) use x-rays which are ionizing radiation.

Yes and your point?  Most likely the smoke detectors in your house use ionization for detection.

Clearly you must be responding to Aaron, since he is the one who made a fully unsupported statement.  I was merely asking for him to site his reference for his totally incorrect, ignorant, and uninformed opinion.

Personal insults are the best way to get an argument settled. Shows clear superiority both in argument and in articulation. 

Of course you did.

I assume if your mom, girlfriend, or boss said something you disagreed with you tell them they are totally incorrect, ignorant and uninformed?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionizing_radiation#Biological_effects

The point is that it is a known carcinogen.  I'm not trying to bust your chops or say that it'll instantly give everyone cancer.  The problem is that it builds up - the dosage is cumulative.  I could get a CT scan once a year and probably be ok.  But is it a good idea?  Not really.

What personal insult? 

I merely asked if you had facts to support your opinion?  Otherwise it IS an incorrect, ignorant, and uninformed opinion.  No insult there, just facts. 

BTW: making things up (e.g. "cancer causing") isn't exactly in the debating handbook either!  Just sayin'

Of course.  Calling people ignorant and uninfomred, that's not a personal insult, what was I thinking?????

Sure I get that, but the fact is that we are exposed to so much more radiation thoughout our lives that to say that this type of a machine that a typical person might use a handful of times a year is a "cancer causer" is simply ludicrous. 

Wonder how fast the TSA would confiscate a dosimeter if I tried to wear one during the scan :P

Incorrect = not correct.  I tell people that they (or something they say) are (is) incorrect all the time.

Ignorant = lacking knowledge of a topic.  Again, not an insult.  As a matter of fact I actually used the word ignorant to describe my knowledge of a topic just the other day.  I certainly was not insulting myself.

uninformed = lacking information.  Where is the insult there?  If they think that these machines cause cancer then they are lacking information.

Now, if someone perceives my pointing out their being incorrect, ignorant, or uninformed on a particular topic as an insult, well that's just not my problem.

ETA:  By the way I don't "disagree" with the statement.  The statement is wrong.  There is a difference.

I didn't call anyone those things.  I said that their statement/opinion was.  

And honestly if you think that a backscatter x-ray inspection system is a "cancer causer" then you would be incorrect, and your opinion on and knowledge of the topic would be lacking knowledge (i.e. ignorant and uninformed).

so where's the personal insult again?