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Anyone ever worked in "Corporate America" and felt like they were "living the dream?
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2013-02-12 10:35 PM
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Dan-L - 2013-02-13 12:24 PM I work for a Wall St firm but based I'm in London. Love my job, I think I'm good at it.  I manage to spend at least one day a week working from home so I get to take my kids to school.  I spend a week every 3 months in New York and I've travelled the world business class studying for a business degree thanks to the company.  The people i work with are great.  The injection of the American culture into the English company I worked for was amazing for me (they didn't care what school I went to, who my parents were, or what accent I had - they valued me on my input) and I've been promoted every 2 years I've worked for them.  If it's not giving too much away, it's all change again soon thanks to another merger, but bring it on.

worked for big retailers in London - about 16 years at Marks and Spencer - an institution of a company - best place i ever worked.  I never realised it at the time - they really looked after us, at the time we had free dental, hairdressing, podiatry - bonuses, shares all sorts of perks!

and they paid well.  I now live and work in Australia - currently in a small family company which is great.  Worked for one big corporate company - they were AWFUL!

 



2013-02-13 6:43 AM
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Dan-L - 2013-02-13 12:24 PM I work for a Wall St firm but based I'm in London. Love my job, I think I'm good at it.  I manage to spend at least one day a week working from home so I get to take my kids to school.  I spend a week every 3 months in New York and I've travelled the world business class studying for a business degree thanks to the company.  The people i work with are great.  The injection of the American culture into the English company I worked for was amazing for me (they didn't care what school I went to, who my parents were, or what accent I had - they valued me on my input) and I've been promoted every 2 years I've worked for them.  If it's not giving too much away, it's all change again soon thanks to another merger, but bring it on.

worked for big retailers in London - about 16 years at Marks and Spencer - an institution of a company - best place i ever worked.  I never realised it at the time - they really looked after us, at the time we had free dental, hairdressing, podiatry - bonuses, shares all sorts of perks!

and they paid well.  I now live and work in Australia - currently in a small family company which is great.  Worked for one big corporate company - they were AWFUL!

I always think M&S staff look particular satisfied in their jobs and they clearly only hire the best so well done on spending that long there.   I bet having them on your CV opens a lot of other doors in retailers around the world.  I've studies M&S a lot, they're an open company with a fascinating history who have reinvented themselves several times.  Will be interesting to see how they do it again into the digital age of clothes shopping.  

I'm looking out of my window now at a snow covered back garden thinking a bit of Australian sun would go down nicely!

2013-02-13 7:49 AM
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Subject: RE: Anyone ever worked in "Corporate America" and felt like they were "living the dream?
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BrianRunsPhilly - 2013-02-12 12:08 PM

Everything has a price. Did that for 14 years and I have to say towards the end it was a little like selling my soul. Of course, it depends entirely upon the industry, company, and, most importantly, coworkers.

That was cathartic, thanks

What an incredible story. Thanks for sharing it Brian.

Yes thanks for sharing.

2013-02-13 9:02 AM
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I'm in corporate America and I really do enjoy my job.

That's sounds like the start to some work based addiction meeting....

Honestly though, I really do enjoy my job, I look forward to the work day, I moan about it sometimes, but when I sit at the end of the year for the appraisal cycle, I mean it when I say I enjoy working where I do and doing what I do.

I enjoy working with and leading my team, I enjoy working with and learning from my boss.  I am challenged daily in my role, I am challenged in the mid and long term to step outside of my comfort zone and as a result I see growth.  I like that!

I am fortunate, whilst the demands of the job mean I put in long hours, I have a drive for balance, I am afforded the opportunity to do a lot of things outside of the work environment because of the job I have.  From spontaneous weekends away with the family, to flying back to the UK to compete in a race, these things cost time and money.

I spend time and effort doing things outside of the office that also force me to disengage from work, I coach youth soccer, I take my kids horse riding, swimming and every now and then I will get a date night with my incredibly supportive wife.

There are a couple of things I think make a difference in why I enjoy my job.

1. I don't let it consume me, my priorities are my wife and children, always will be.

2. I feel like I make a difference in the workplace.

3. Even though some days I will put in that 18 hour day, other days I will run 8 miles at lunch, leave early and coach soccer for my sons team, all in the same day.  I try to find balance.

 



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2013-02-13 9:59 AM
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trinnas - 2013-02-13 8:49 AM
KateTri1 - 2013-02-12 11:31 PM
BrianRunsPhilly - 2013-02-12 12:08 PM

Everything has a price. Did that for 14 years and I have to say towards the end it was a little like selling my soul. Of course, it depends entirely upon the industry, company, and, most importantly, coworkers.

That was cathartic, thanks

What an incredible story. Thanks for sharing it Brian.

Yes thanks for sharing.

Thanks, Kate and Kate

I don't usually open up, especially on here. I know it's easy to lose perspective when there's so much pressure to keep reaching for that brass ring. It's just sad to see how my industry has lost it's way. But that's a different discussion.

2013-02-13 1:54 PM
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I never really felt like I was "living the dream" until my husband and I both quit our corporate jobs to start our own businesses.

I worked for Texas big oil for a few years as an engineer, and I've never been so miserable in my life. After that, I moved back to Colorado and did environmental work, which was a lot better because I felt like I had a purpose and I was working on something I cared about. But I never really loved what I was doing, and when I got pregnant with my first kid I thought really long and hard about what I wanted to model for my children someday - did I want them to think they should be miserable at work just to make a big paycheck? So I quit when I had my daughter and became a painter (artist). It's about as far from a corporate job as it gets, but I love it. Do I make the same $ I made as an engineer? No. But my schedule is totally flexible and my job takes me to some really cool places, and I get to make money doing something I love.

My husband also quit his corporate gig when we had our first kid, and started his own homebuilding business. Everybody thought we were kind of nuts for quitting our "stable" jobs right when we decided to have kids, but I wouldn't change it for the world. That was 2006 and since then the economy has gone in the tank and we've seen tons of our corporate friends struggle with layoffs and pay cuts. Building a homebuilding business and selling paintings (hello, luxury item!) in this economy hasn't been easy, but that's what's cool about it. We feel like we're finally in charge. If things aren't going well, we work harder, or try to work smarter - we're not dependant on someone else to make the big decisions. And if we want to take off and go for a bike ride in the middle of a beautiful afternoon, we can



2013-02-13 2:14 PM
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I do-and heres why:
-I work exactly 8 hours a day/5 days a week, period.
-My boss is a former RAM competitor and road national champion and all around fun guy
-I get paid well
-I have plenty of time off
-My company is huge on folks having a life so personal time is respected fully-no texts, calls etc are allowed to anyone off the clock

I have worked for 2 small businesses and both were an absolute nightmare. The owners both encroached on my personal time, expected me to do overtime when it wasnt in the job description(and one refused to pay the OT so I had to get the state employee folks involved). Oh, and the slap in the face 50 cent raises because 'we're running lean right now, ya know, the economy.' Never, ever again.
2013-02-13 2:32 PM
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My answer to the basic question is no. I never dreamed of a corporate job, but I have thrived at the particular corporation I now work for, and had tried to get in here for years. I had always worked at smaller mom & pop type companies with one stint at a multinational technology company where I learned the hard way how not to behave in corporate America. A few years later I got hired at another very large technology company and have been promoted 4 times in the past 6.5 years. I am now in upper middle management (woo hoo!) and make more money that I ever thought I'd make. There is much to be grateful for with this job and the career path I chose for myself, but it was never my dream. I just sort of stumbled into it while life was moving along. I had a wife and kids and a mortgage and just kept trying to find the next best thing. I stumbled from being a typewriter repairman, to a computer repair man, to a network engineer, to a Senior Manager in the Network Engineering organization of a huge service provider. So I've got that going for me, which is nice.
2013-02-13 2:42 PM
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LittleCat - 2013-02-13 2:14 PM I do-and heres why: -I work exactly 8 hours a day/5 days a week, period. -My boss is a former RAM competitor and road national champion and all around fun guy -I get paid well -I have plenty of time off -My company is huge on folks having a life so personal time is respected fully-no texts, calls etc are allowed to anyone off the clock I have worked for 2 small businesses and both were an absolute nightmare. The owners both encroached on my personal time, expected me to do overtime when it wasnt in the job description(and one refused to pay the OT so I had to get the state employee folks involved). Oh, and the slap in the face 50 cent raises because 'we're running lean right now, ya know, the economy.' Never, ever again.

I found this to be the case working for a nonprofit (my last job). Except I never got a raise (the opposite, they actually threatened to REDUCE my pay) and when I took my corporate job my pay increased by about 50% overnight.

2013-02-13 9:19 PM
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BrianRunsPhilly - 2013-02-12 11:08 AM

Everything has a price. Did that for 14 years and I have to say towards the end it was a little like selling my soul. Of course, it depends entirely upon the industry, company, and, most importantly, coworkers.

I worked in research in large Pharma. In the early/mid 90's we were still all about innovation and commitment to basic research. As a freshly minted scientist who was used to working with limited budget and resources, it was incredible. We had access to the best of everything, and I was also fortunate to be in the right place at the right time. I was eager and aggressive, and got promoted 4 times in 5 years. Did a lot of international travel, all business class, hired car and driver, etc. Then we got 'merged' and I left. Took another step up. Same deal, only more. Meanwhile moving from research to business development and pure management. Didn't get a promotion, so started looking around. Was offered a job as Sr. VP at a major Pharma and went for the money and position. Uprooted the family yet again, moved across the country, and was utterly miserable. The job was impossible, the company was dysfunctional, and I was now on 50% travel. I did zero science, and my primary job function became politics, budgets, sitting in meetings and laying people off.

I had the crazy big house, more money than we could spend, and all that other materialistic cr*p. Never saw my kids, ego spiraled out of control, and was very, very unhappy. All I did was work. When merger #3 came down the pike I crashed. Wife left (rightly so), had no self control, and took quite a bit of time to get back to a good place.

I did a year's worth of charity work and figured out what was really important in my life. Science makes me happy, and that is no longer a priority in corporate Pharma. So I started a company to do my own thing. Fast forward to today. My oldest lives with me while he's in college, I see my other son whenever I want (~3 times a week), and my ex is a great friend. Family is the priority. I'm still a type "A" but it's not a one-dimensional thing anymore. I make probably a quarter of what I did at my peak and it's fine. Maybe my company will hit on something big, maybe not.

There are things I do miss though. I miss not having to worry about payroll. I miss some of the travel. I really miss a lot of the very talented people I was privileged to work with on a daily basis. They're out of Pharma too now, and we do keep in touch.

That was cathartic, thanks



Thanks for sharing! Sounds like you found your happiness!

2013-02-13 9:23 PM
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Dan-L - 2013-02-13 11:43 PM
jobaxas - 2013-02-13 4:35 AM

Dan-L - 2013-02-13 12:24 PM I work for a Wall St firm but based I'm in London. Love my job, I think I'm good at it.  I manage to spend at least one day a week working from home so I get to take my kids to school.  I spend a week every 3 months in New York and I've travelled the world business class studying for a business degree thanks to the company.  The people i work with are great.  The injection of the American culture into the English company I worked for was amazing for me (they didn't care what school I went to, who my parents were, or what accent I had - they valued me on my input) and I've been promoted every 2 years I've worked for them.  If it's not giving too much away, it's all change again soon thanks to another merger, but bring it on.

worked for big retailers in London - about 16 years at Marks and Spencer - an institution of a company - best place i ever worked.  I never realised it at the time - they really looked after us, at the time we had free dental, hairdressing, podiatry - bonuses, shares all sorts of perks!

and they paid well.  I now live and work in Australia - currently in a small family company which is great.  Worked for one big corporate company - they were AWFUL!

I always think M&S staff look particular satisfied in their jobs and they clearly only hire the best so well done on spending that long there.   I bet having them on your CV opens a lot of other doors in retailers around the world.  I've studies M&S a lot, they're an open company with a fascinating history who have reinvented themselves several times.  Will be interesting to see how they do it again into the digital age of clothes shopping.  

I'm looking out of my window now at a snow covered back garden thinking a bit of Australian sun would go down nicely!

Just for you then....

 





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KSH - 2013-02-13 10:19 PM
BrianRunsPhilly - 2013-02-12 11:08 AM

Everything has a price. Did that for 14 years and I have to say towards the end it was a little like selling my soul. Of course, it depends entirely upon the industry, company, and, most importantly, coworkers.

I worked in research in large Pharma. In the early/mid 90's we were still all about innovation and commitment to basic research. As a freshly minted scientist who was used to working with limited budget and resources, it was incredible. We had access to the best of everything, and I was also fortunate to be in the right place at the right time. I was eager and aggressive, and got promoted 4 times in 5 years. Did a lot of international travel, all business class, hired car and driver, etc. Then we got 'merged' and I left. Took another step up. Same deal, only more. Meanwhile moving from research to business development and pure management. Didn't get a promotion, so started looking around. Was offered a job as Sr. VP at a major Pharma and went for the money and position. Uprooted the family yet again, moved across the country, and was utterly miserable. The job was impossible, the company was dysfunctional, and I was now on 50% travel. I did zero science, and my primary job function became politics, budgets, sitting in meetings and laying people off.

I had the crazy big house, more money than we could spend, and all that other materialistic cr*p. Never saw my kids, ego spiraled out of control, and was very, very unhappy. All I did was work. When merger #3 came down the pike I crashed. Wife left (rightly so), had no self control, and took quite a bit of time to get back to a good place.

I did a year's worth of charity work and figured out what was really important in my life. Science makes me happy, and that is no longer a priority in corporate Pharma. So I started a company to do my own thing. Fast forward to today. My oldest lives with me while he's in college, I see my other son whenever I want (~3 times a week), and my ex is a great friend. Family is the priority. I'm still a type "A" but it's not a one-dimensional thing anymore. I make probably a quarter of what I did at my peak and it's fine. Maybe my company will hit on something big, maybe not.

There are things I do miss though. I miss not having to worry about payroll. I miss some of the travel. I really miss a lot of the very talented people I was privileged to work with on a daily basis. They're out of Pharma too now, and we do keep in touch.

That was cathartic, thanks

Thanks for sharing! Sounds like you found your happiness!
Still work hard, but it's different. The number of absolutely useless meetings in corporations is amazing. Now every meeting I have means something. The ones I have with my employees are rare and quick. And there are plenty of days I'm sharing a chair with the cat, or popping out for a bike ride. My lead developer wears flip flops and has been known to keep beer in the fridge. He also works incredibly hard, so why should I care? Oh, we have a 55 inch tv in the conference room and the office shuts down for 15 minutes to see the end of each stage during the TdF. What's not to like?
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BrianRunsPhilly - 2013-02-13 10:02 PM
KSH - 2013-02-13 10:19 PM
BrianRunsPhilly - 2013-02-12 11:08 AM

Everything has a price. Did that for 14 years and I have to say towards the end it was a little like selling my soul. Of course, it depends entirely upon the industry, company, and, most importantly, coworkers.

I worked in research in large Pharma. In the early/mid 90's we were still all about innovation and commitment to basic research. As a freshly minted scientist who was used to working with limited budget and resources, it was incredible. We had access to the best of everything, and I was also fortunate to be in the right place at the right time. I was eager and aggressive, and got promoted 4 times in 5 years. Did a lot of international travel, all business class, hired car and driver, etc. Then we got 'merged' and I left. Took another step up. Same deal, only more. Meanwhile moving from research to business development and pure management. Didn't get a promotion, so started looking around. Was offered a job as Sr. VP at a major Pharma and went for the money and position. Uprooted the family yet again, moved across the country, and was utterly miserable. The job was impossible, the company was dysfunctional, and I was now on 50% travel. I did zero science, and my primary job function became politics, budgets, sitting in meetings and laying people off.

I had the crazy big house, more money than we could spend, and all that other materialistic cr*p. Never saw my kids, ego spiraled out of control, and was very, very unhappy. All I did was work. When merger #3 came down the pike I crashed. Wife left (rightly so), had no self control, and took quite a bit of time to get back to a good place.

I did a year's worth of charity work and figured out what was really important in my life. Science makes me happy, and that is no longer a priority in corporate Pharma. So I started a company to do my own thing. Fast forward to today. My oldest lives with me while he's in college, I see my other son whenever I want (~3 times a week), and my ex is a great friend. Family is the priority. I'm still a type "A" but it's not a one-dimensional thing anymore. I make probably a quarter of what I did at my peak and it's fine. Maybe my company will hit on something big, maybe not.

There are things I do miss though. I miss not having to worry about payroll. I miss some of the travel. I really miss a lot of the very talented people I was privileged to work with on a daily basis. They're out of Pharma too now, and we do keep in touch.

That was cathartic, thanks

Thanks for sharing! Sounds like you found your happiness!
Still work hard, but it's different. The number of absolutely useless meetings in corporations is amazing. Now every meeting I have means something. The ones I have with my employees are rare and quick. And there are plenty of days I'm sharing a chair with the cat, or popping out for a bike ride. My lead developer wears flip flops and has been known to keep beer in the fridge. He also works incredibly hard, so why should I care? Oh, we have a 55 inch tv in the conference room and the office shuts down for 15 minutes to see the end of each stage during the TdF. What's not to like?

I want to work for you!  I have no experience in your field at all.  Will this be an issue?

Creating an environment and company that people WANT to be in should be the goal goal of a boss.  At least I think so.  Attracting the top talent and good workers is so much more than just pay.  Many people, me included at the moment, work for a company because it's simply a job that gives us enough money to do other things that make us forget about our job.  I'd take less for a better environment in a heart beat, but I haven't found one yet.  

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