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 2013-11-04 10:00 AM in reply to: switch |
Master 10208   Northern IL |  Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" ChallengeOriginally posted by switch Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by drfoodlove One week into the two week challenge and I can happily report I've been successful most days! I may have actually been too good (yesterday excepted), because I lost 9#. Some of that was probably sodium retention because we had Chinese food the day before my last weigh in, but that loss is too fast--I know it! Hmmm...license to eat more? Score! How are you all doing looking back over the last week? Question for the group: I'm headed into my first 3200yd swim today (previous long was 2500yds), and I'm pretty sure it is going to take me at least 1:15, if not 1:30 to finish. I will do it right after my weight session, so I'm thinking I should take in some calories along the way somewhere. I did 1:15 on Saturday and definitely felt a wall around the 1hr mark and the last bit of my workout was pretty miserable. How do you fuel (if you do) during swim workouts? I'm pretty sure my pool won't allow anything like Gu or blocks (or pb&j!). I bought some Gatorade powder this morning, thinking I can sneak it by the lifeguards in my purple water bottle, but looking at it, it only has 130 calories per qt. I'm not sure that is enough, but then Gu only has 100 calories per packet, and I wouldn't eat more than one per session anyway. Thoughts? Picking up some things to work on with swimming. One is getting more used to swimming faster. Have better swim fitness than some others, but not the skill to fully utilize it at race speeds. And as for nutrition in a swim, I haven't used anything during a workout. The most I've seen used is a sports drink. Some at masters do for the 1 hr and for the 1.5 hr days. And just a little bit of it at that. Not sure what others at the health club pool use, but not sure how many of them know what they're doing anyway. What are you doing in the weight session? Would think that would have a bigger impact than any nutrition might gain you. Ben's in! Nice. Would you elaborate on what you're going to do with your swimming? Curious minds want to know Turnover and getting used to going faster. I'm not able to step it up as much as others at a meet as I just don't know well enough how to go faster. Or am not familiar enough with it. Fitness is there, but timing changes some at racing speeds. |
| 2013-11-04 11:25 AM in reply to: drfoodlove |
Pro 6520  Bellingham, WA | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by drfoodlove One week into the two week challenge and I can happily report I've been successful most days! I may have actually been too good (yesterday excepted), because I lost 9#. Some of that was probably sodium retention because we had Chinese food the day before my last weigh in, but that loss is too fast--I know it! Hmmm...license to eat more? Score! How are you all doing looking back over the last week? Question for the group: I'm headed into my first 3200yd swim today (previous long was 2500yds), and I'm pretty sure it is going to take me at least 1:15, if not 1:30 to finish. I will do it right after my weight session, so I'm thinking I should take in some calories along the way somewhere. I did 1:15 on Saturday and definitely felt a wall around the 1hr mark and the last bit of my workout was pretty miserable. How do you fuel (if you do) during swim workouts? I'm pretty sure my pool won't allow anything like Gu or blocks (or pb&j!). I bought some Gatorade powder this morning, thinking I can sneak it by the lifeguards in my purple water bottle, but looking at it, it only has 130 calories per qt. I'm not sure that is enough, but then Gu only has 100 calories per packet, and I wouldn't eat more than one per session anyway. Thoughts? The only time I ever go over an hour for a swm workout is a very seldom long open water swim. My pool workouts are pretty brief as I have to squeeze them in during my lunch hour. One thing I do on my bike though if I'm doing one to two hours and don't need a lot of nutrition but want some and to make it easy I'll mix an ounce or two of gel into my sport drink. It will dilute so you hardly know its in there. |
| 2013-11-04 11:31 AM in reply to: switch |
Expert 4953  Middle River, Maryland Silver member | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by switch Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by drfoodlove One week into the two week challenge and I can happily report I've been successful most days! I may have actually been too good (yesterday excepted), because I lost 9#. Some of that was probably sodium retention because we had Chinese food the day before my last weigh in, but that loss is too fast--I know it! Hmmm...license to eat more? Score! How are you all doing looking back over the last week? Question for the group: I'm headed into my first 3200yd swim today (previous long was 2500yds), and I'm pretty sure it is going to take me at least 1:15, if not 1:30 to finish. I will do it right after my weight session, so I'm thinking I should take in some calories along the way somewhere. I did 1:15 on Saturday and definitely felt a wall around the 1hr mark and the last bit of my workout was pretty miserable. How do you fuel (if you do) during swim workouts? I'm pretty sure my pool won't allow anything like Gu or blocks (or pb&j!). I bought some Gatorade powder this morning, thinking I can sneak it by the lifeguards in my purple water bottle, but looking at it, it only has 130 calories per qt. I'm not sure that is enough, but then Gu only has 100 calories per packet, and I wouldn't eat more than one per session anyway. Thoughts? Picking up some things to work on with swimming. One is getting more used to swimming faster. Have better swim fitness than some others, but not the skill to fully utilize it at race speeds. And as for nutrition in a swim, I haven't used anything during a workout. The most I've seen used is a sports drink. Some at masters do for the 1 hr and for the 1.5 hr days. And just a little bit of it at that. Not sure what others at the health club pool use, but not sure how many of them know what they're doing anyway. What are you doing in the weight session? Would think that would have a bigger impact than any nutrition might gain you. Ben's in! Nice. Would you elaborate on what you're going to do with your swimming? Curious minds want to know --- Gretchen-- 9lbs! What the heck? I didn't even know that was possible. Wonderful that you are losing, but be careful Some swimmers I know bring a bottle with some sort of energy drink--Cytomax is one that an ex-D1 friend of mine swears by. I have used it and don't mind the taste. I have a hard time with Gatorade. I never thought I would say this but... I wonder if something like (deep breath) chocolate milk might be good to drink right after the weights? After weight training something with protein and carbs would be good, and a few more carbs (like from the sugar in chocolate milk as opposed to regular milk) might be good since you are going straight to swimming. Also, since it's a drink, your body won't have to divert a lot of blood to your gut to digest. Just spit ballin here...would love to have others weigh in on this. For Masters class I'll bring some diluted Gatorade. That gets me through the 90 min or 2 hour session. I'd be a little hesitant to put anything more substantial than that into my stomach, but everyone has a different tolerance for that sort of thing. Some of the Masters swimmers eat bananas or bagels during the workout...I'd be a puking mess. |
| 2013-11-04 11:37 AM in reply to: popsracer |
Pro 6520 Bellingham, WA | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Last week was huge for me. Over 40 miles and ran seven days. The best part is I don't feel too beatup and will get a little rest at the end of the week before my first 5k of the challenge. Saturday we had a big wind, rain storm just in time for my tempo run. My wife looked at me as rain is pelting the windows with sheets of rain and asked "are you really going out there"? and my response "I have to". It did not go real well. I had to cut the tempo part at about 2.25 miles and just took it easy for another 3.75 to get an even 6 miles in. I figured it was best to get a day like that out of my system during practice rather than race day. Yesterday was awesome though. The sun was out and it was calm. Ran 13.1 on my favorite path along the shoreline and through the trees. I was well under two hours which was a race goal not too long ago. Really felt good. Easy today with a swim and ride. Repeats on the track tomorrow. I few medium length easy days, then my first test. |
| 2013-11-04 12:28 PM in reply to: switch |
Member 3149 | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by switch I never thought I would say this but... I wonder if something like (deep breath) chocolate milk might be good to drink right after the weights? After weight training something with protein and carbs would be good, and a few more carbs (like from the sugar in chocolate milk as opposed to regular milk) might be good since you are going straight to swimming. Also, since it's a drink, your body won't have to divert a lot of blood to your gut to digest. Just spit ballin here...would love to have others weigh in on this. Thanks for all the ideas everyone! I did Gatorade, which turns out my tummy doesn't like. We don't have to start the chocolate milk conversation, cause there is just no freakin' way I could put that substance in my mouth. Just thinking about it dredges up too many terrible memories from grade school cafeteria. |
| 2013-11-04 12:39 PM in reply to: popsracer |
Extreme Veteran 2263 Ridgeland, Mississippi | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge I got past my long run with 1:15 at "race pace" without too much difficulty. I expect my runs to get more difficult when I enter back into the realm of slow and steady long runs. This week is a recovery week (woot!), but I will have some intensity with a FTP test tomorrow and a 10K on Saturday. My PR for 10K is 39:51, and I have only gone under 40 that one time. I'd like to get back under there. Pacing has always been a nemesis of mine in running. My plan is to hold 6:24 for the first 4 miles and push a bit more on the last 2.2. I have a bad habit of wanting to build a buffer, which ends up with a risky positive split. |
| 2013-11-04 1:21 PM in reply to: 0 |
Master 2167 Livonia, MI | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by popsracer Last week was huge for me. Over 40 miles and ran seven days. The best part is I don't feel too beatup and will get a little rest at the end of the week before my first 5k of the challenge. Saturday we had a big wind, rain storm just in time for my tempo run. My wife looked at me as rain is pelting the windows with sheets of rain and asked "are you really going out there"? and my response "I have to". It did not go real well. I had to cut the tempo part at about 2.25 miles and just took it easy for another 3.75 to get an even 6 miles in. I figured it was best to get a day like that out of my system during practice rather than race day. Yesterday was awesome though. The sun was out and it was calm. Ran 13.1 on my favorite path along the shoreline and through the trees. I was well under two hours which was a race goal not too long ago. Really felt good. Easy today with a swim and ride. Repeats on the track tomorrow. I few medium length easy days, then my first test. You're kicking azz and taking names. Solid job as usual Steve. Rainstorms cannot keep this man down! Edited for the girl who cannot spell. Edited by noelle1230 2013-11-04 1:22 PM |
| 2013-11-04 1:24 PM in reply to: StaceyK |
Master 2167 Livonia, MI | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by StaceyK Walked a 5k fun run this morning with my friend. It was so great to see how excited she was to finish it and get an event shirt and finishers medal. What was even better is that she was picking off people that she was not going to let beat her and ran a couple of small parts of it without any encouraging from me at all. She said it will be the first of many more which is great! Up until 12 months ago this girl had a severe hatred for exercise, in the last 12 months she has lost over 30kg (70#) and either walks or rides her bike every day now. Stacey, that is awesome to hear. People like that inspire me! Change is not easy to make, especially when you're overweight and not a fan of fitness. |
| 2013-11-04 1:32 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Master 2167 Livonia, MI | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by Asalzwed I'm so sad that I only have a moment to explain mg own thoughts of the weekend. I will address everyone else when I get a few minutes and am not on my phone! My race was amazing. So so so hard though. As on puke/tears/foaming at the mouth grown as women. Its hard to put that in words and hard to quantify. But we earned every moment this weekend. Oh, and I didn't eat sh*t in my spikes (worn for the first time) Every time I think you can't get more bad azz...... Can't wait to hear more! |
| 2013-11-04 1:35 PM in reply to: msteiner |
Master 2167 Livonia, MI | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by msteiner I got past my long run with 1:15 at "race pace" without too much difficulty. I expect my runs to get more difficult when I enter back into the realm of slow and steady long runs. This week is a recovery week (woot!), but I will have some intensity with a FTP test tomorrow and a 10K on Saturday. My PR for 10K is 39:51, and I have only gone under 40 that one time. I'd like to get back under there. Pacing has always been a nemesis of mine in running. My plan is to hold 6:24 for the first 4 miles and push a bit more on the last 2.2. I have a bad habit of wanting to build a buffer, which ends up with a risky positive split. Solid job on the 75 minute @ race pace run. Sounds like your build is going really well. Enjoy recovery week and psyche yourself up for that sub-40 10K! |
| 2013-11-04 2:14 PM in reply to: noelle1230 |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by noelle1230 Originally posted by Asalzwed I'm so sad that I only have a moment to explain mg own thoughts of the weekend. I will address everyone else when I get a few minutes and am not on my phone! My race was amazing. So so so hard though. As on puke/tears/foaming at the mouth grown as women. Its hard to put that in words and hard to quantify. But we earned every moment this weekend. Oh, and I didn't eat sh*t in my spikes (worn for the first time) Every time I think you can't get more bad azz...... Can't wait to hear more! http://beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=504936&posts=1#M4892056
,not best, but most certainly hardest race of my life |
| 2013-11-04 2:28 PM in reply to: popsracer |
Expert 4953 Middle River, Maryland Silver member | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by popsracer Last week was huge for me. Over 40 miles and ran seven days. The best part is I don't feel too beatup and will get a little rest at the end of the week before my first 5k of the challenge. Saturday we had a big wind, rain storm just in time for my tempo run. My wife looked at me as rain is pelting the windows with sheets of rain and asked "are you really going out there"? and my response "I have to". It did not go real well. I had to cut the tempo part at about 2.25 miles and just took it easy for another 3.75 to get an even 6 miles in. I figured it was best to get a day like that out of my system during practice rather than race day. Yesterday was awesome though. The sun was out and it was calm. Ran 13.1 on my favorite path along the shoreline and through the trees. I was well under two hours which was a race goal not too long ago. Really felt good. Easy today with a swim and ride. Repeats on the track tomorrow. I few medium length easy days, then my first test. That's just awesome...and easy sub-2 hour HM on a lazy Sunday. |
| 2013-11-04 3:16 PM in reply to: popsracer |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by popsracer Lots of awesome in here Steve. Even the going out in the horrific weather is a check in the "win" column. Hearing that your 13.1 pace felt easy, and that it was a race goal not too long ago makes me smile. Last week was huge for me. Over 40 miles and ran seven days. The best part is I don't feel too beatup and will get a little rest at the end of the week before my first 5k of the challenge. Saturday we had a big wind, rain storm just in time for my tempo run. My wife looked at me as rain is pelting the windows with sheets of rain and asked "are you really going out there"? and my response "I have to". It did not go real well. I had to cut the tempo part at about 2.25 miles and just took it easy for another 3.75 to get an even 6 miles in. I figured it was best to get a day like that out of my system during practice rather than race day. Yesterday was awesome though. The sun was out and it was calm. Ran 13.1 on my favorite path along the shoreline and through the trees. I was well under two hours which was a race goal not too long ago. Really felt good. Easy today with a swim and ride. Repeats on the track tomorrow. I few medium length easy days, then my first test. I am very excited to see how this 5K goes for you :) |
| 2013-11-04 3:17 PM in reply to: drfoodlove |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by drfoodlove Originally posted by switch I never thought I would say this but... I wonder if something like (deep breath) chocolate milk might be good to drink right after the weights? After weight training something with protein and carbs would be good, and a few more carbs (like from the sugar in chocolate milk as opposed to regular milk) might be good since you are going straight to swimming. Also, since it's a drink, your body won't have to divert a lot of blood to your gut to digest. Just spit ballin here...would love to have others weigh in on this. Lol. Yeha, that's EXACTLY how I feel about it. Bleh :) |
| 2013-11-04 3:23 PM in reply to: switch |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by switch Originally posted by popsracer Lots of awesome in here Steve. Even the going out in the horrific weather is a check in the "win" column. Hearing that your 13.1 pace felt easy, and that it was a race goal not too long ago makes me smile. Last week was huge for me. Over 40 miles and ran seven days. The best part is I don't feel too beatup and will get a little rest at the end of the week before my first 5k of the challenge. Saturday we had a big wind, rain storm just in time for my tempo run. My wife looked at me as rain is pelting the windows with sheets of rain and asked "are you really going out there"? and my response "I have to". It did not go real well. I had to cut the tempo part at about 2.25 miles and just took it easy for another 3.75 to get an even 6 miles in. I figured it was best to get a day like that out of my system during practice rather than race day. Yesterday was awesome though. The sun was out and it was calm. Ran 13.1 on my favorite path along the shoreline and through the trees. I was well under two hours which was a race goal not too long ago. Really felt good. Easy today with a swim and ride. Repeats on the track tomorrow. I few medium length easy days, then my first test. I am very excited to see how this 5K goes for you Just to reinforce Steve's HTFU-ness, here are some pictures I got on Saturday:
Seattle is inland. That is not an ocean. That is Puget SOUND. And that is someone surfing.
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| 2013-11-04 3:28 PM in reply to: msteiner |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by msteiner This post reminds me of the "I-do-not-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means" in the Princess Bride. Recovery week with an FTP test and a 10K on Saturday?! You so crazy :)I got past my long run with 1:15 at "race pace" without too much difficulty. I expect my runs to get more difficult when I enter back into the realm of slow and steady long runs. This week is a recovery week (woot!), but I will have some intensity with a FTP test tomorrow and a 10K on Saturday. My PR for 10K is 39:51, and I have only gone under 40 that one time. I'd like to get back under there. Pacing has always been a nemesis of mine in running. My plan is to hold 6:24 for the first 4 miles and push a bit more on the last 2.2. I have a bad habit of wanting to build a buffer, which ends up with a risky positive split. |
| 2013-11-04 3:32 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by Asalzwed Woah. That is C-R-A-Z-Y. Originally posted by switch Originally posted by popsracer Lots of awesome in here Steve. Even the going out in the horrific weather is a check in the "win" column. Hearing that your 13.1 pace felt easy, and that it was a race goal not too long ago makes me smile. Last week was huge for me. Over 40 miles and ran seven days. The best part is I don't feel too beatup and will get a little rest at the end of the week before my first 5k of the challenge. Saturday we had a big wind, rain storm just in time for my tempo run. My wife looked at me as rain is pelting the windows with sheets of rain and asked "are you really going out there"? and my response "I have to". It did not go real well. I had to cut the tempo part at about 2.25 miles and just took it easy for another 3.75 to get an even 6 miles in. I figured it was best to get a day like that out of my system during practice rather than race day. Yesterday was awesome though. The sun was out and it was calm. Ran 13.1 on my favorite path along the shoreline and through the trees. I was well under two hours which was a race goal not too long ago. Really felt good. Easy today with a swim and ride. Repeats on the track tomorrow. I few medium length easy days, then my first test. I am very excited to see how this 5K goes for you :) Just to reinforce Steve's HTFU-ness, here are some pictures I got on Saturday:
Seattle is inland. That is not an ocean. That is Puget SOUND. And that is someone surfing.
Salty, you always take such beautiful pictures. i was looking at the ones in your training log this weekend, and they are very cool. You always seem to have such interesting light. I also wanted to congratulate you on getting your first store approved by the USGBC! Hellz to the yes! |
| 2013-11-04 3:34 PM in reply to: switch |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Asalzwed Woah. That is C-R-A-Z-Y. Originally posted by switch Originally posted by popsracer Lots of awesome in here Steve. Even the going out in the horrific weather is a check in the "win" column. Hearing that your 13.1 pace felt easy, and that it was a race goal not too long ago makes me smile. Last week was huge for me. Over 40 miles and ran seven days. The best part is I don't feel too beatup and will get a little rest at the end of the week before my first 5k of the challenge. Saturday we had a big wind, rain storm just in time for my tempo run. My wife looked at me as rain is pelting the windows with sheets of rain and asked "are you really going out there"? and my response "I have to". It did not go real well. I had to cut the tempo part at about 2.25 miles and just took it easy for another 3.75 to get an even 6 miles in. I figured it was best to get a day like that out of my system during practice rather than race day. Yesterday was awesome though. The sun was out and it was calm. Ran 13.1 on my favorite path along the shoreline and through the trees. I was well under two hours which was a race goal not too long ago. Really felt good. Easy today with a swim and ride. Repeats on the track tomorrow. I few medium length easy days, then my first test. I am very excited to see how this 5K goes for you Just to reinforce Steve's HTFU-ness, here are some pictures I got on Saturday:
Seattle is inland. That is not an ocean. That is Puget SOUND. And that is someone surfing.
Salty, you always take such beautiful pictures. i was looking at the ones in your training log this weekend, and they are very cool. You always seem to have such interesting light. I also wanted to congratulate you on getting your first store approved by the USGBC! Hellz to the yes! I didn't go to art school fer nothin' baby! Naaaah, it's not all natural light. Lot's of that is just filters. I should only get credit for composition. And thank you! I've since gotten 3 more. |
| 2013-11-04 4:30 PM in reply to: switch |
Extreme Veteran 2263 Ridgeland, Mississippi | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by switch Originally posted by msteiner This post reminds me of the "I-do-not-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means" in the Princess Bride. Recovery week with an FTP test and a 10K on Saturday?! You so crazy I got past my long run with 1:15 at "race pace" without too much difficulty. I expect my runs to get more difficult when I enter back into the realm of slow and steady long runs. This week is a recovery week (woot!), but I will have some intensity with a FTP test tomorrow and a 10K on Saturday. My PR for 10K is 39:51, and I have only gone under 40 that one time. I'd like to get back under there. Pacing has always been a nemesis of mine in running. My plan is to hold 6:24 for the first 4 miles and push a bit more on the last 2.2. I have a bad habit of wanting to build a buffer, which ends up with a risky positive split.  Is it bad that I'd rather do both of those things than run 20 miles? |
| 2013-11-04 4:38 PM in reply to: switch |
Pro 4482 NJ | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by switch Originally posted by msteiner This post reminds me of the "I-do-not-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means" in the Princess Bride. Recovery week with an FTP test and a 10K on Saturday?! You so crazy I got past my long run with 1:15 at "race pace" without too much difficulty. I expect my runs to get more difficult when I enter back into the realm of slow and steady long runs. This week is a recovery week (woot!), but I will have some intensity with a FTP test tomorrow and a 10K on Saturday. My PR for 10K is 39:51, and I have only gone under 40 that one time. I'd like to get back under there. Pacing has always been a nemesis of mine in running. My plan is to hold 6:24 for the first 4 miles and push a bit more on the last 2.2. I have a bad habit of wanting to build a buffer, which ends up with a risky positive split. I love that movie. "Life is pain. Anyone who tells you differently is selling something." |
| 2013-11-04 4:47 PM in reply to: msteiner |
Pro 4482 NJ | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge I had a nice, easy Z2 4 mile run planned at lunch today. Pretty day so I hit the trails. It turned out a bit more exciting than expected. I got buzzed by a Coopers Hawk (I think...not a bird expert) about 5 times. She kept coming at me for about a half mile...flying pretty low to the ground at about knee height. It's too late in the year for it to have been protecting a nest but she really wanted me out of her woods. While a little startling, it was pretty cool to watch her navigate through the trees. Needless to say that mile was my fasted split. |
| 2013-11-04 4:52 PM in reply to: msteiner |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by msteiner Originally posted by switch Originally posted by msteiner This post reminds me of the "I-do-not-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means" in the Princess Bride. Recovery week with an FTP test and a 10K on Saturday?! You so crazy I got past my long run with 1:15 at "race pace" without too much difficulty. I expect my runs to get more difficult when I enter back into the realm of slow and steady long runs. This week is a recovery week (woot!), but I will have some intensity with a FTP test tomorrow and a 10K on Saturday. My PR for 10K is 39:51, and I have only gone under 40 that one time. I'd like to get back under there. Pacing has always been a nemesis of mine in running. My plan is to hold 6:24 for the first 4 miles and push a bit more on the last 2.2. I have a bad habit of wanting to build a buffer, which ends up with a risky positive split. Is it bad that I'd rather do both of those things than run 20 miles? lol it makes me wonder why you have chosen to train for a marathon. I do wonder though, for a rest week., why so much intensity? |
| 2013-11-04 5:14 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Extreme Veteran 2263 Ridgeland, Mississippi | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by msteiner Originally posted by switch Originally posted by msteiner This post reminds me of the "I-do-not-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means" in the Princess Bride. Recovery week with an FTP test and a 10K on Saturday?! You so crazy I got past my long run with 1:15 at "race pace" without too much difficulty. I expect my runs to get more difficult when I enter back into the realm of slow and steady long runs. This week is a recovery week (woot!), but I will have some intensity with a FTP test tomorrow and a 10K on Saturday. My PR for 10K is 39:51, and I have only gone under 40 that one time. I'd like to get back under there. Pacing has always been a nemesis of mine in running. My plan is to hold 6:24 for the first 4 miles and push a bit more on the last 2.2. I have a bad habit of wanting to build a buffer, which ends up with a risky positive split. Is it bad that I'd rather do both of those things than run 20 miles? lol it makes me wonder why you have chosen to train for a marathon. I do wonder though, for a rest week., why so much intensity? The purpose of the marathon training is to build base. The marathon itself was based on the thought that I may as well run a marathon if I'm going to train for one. The 10K is actually prescribed on the plan. The recovery weeks I have left are mainly tapers for races. This one is ended with a 10K, and the last recovery week before taper ends with a half mary. The FTP test is pushing it, but since this week is pretty easy outside of the 10K, I figured now is as good of a time to do it during my marathon training as any. My curiosity is too strong! |
| 2013-11-04 5:30 PM in reply to: 0 |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by msteiner Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by msteiner Originally posted by switch Originally posted by msteiner This post reminds me of the "I-do-not-think-that-word-means-what-you-think-it-means" in the Princess Bride. Recovery week with an FTP test and a 10K on Saturday?! You so crazy I got past my long run with 1:15 at "race pace" without too much difficulty. I expect my runs to get more difficult when I enter back into the realm of slow and steady long runs. This week is a recovery week (woot!), but I will have some intensity with a FTP test tomorrow and a 10K on Saturday. My PR for 10K is 39:51, and I have only gone under 40 that one time. I'd like to get back under there. Pacing has always been a nemesis of mine in running. My plan is to hold 6:24 for the first 4 miles and push a bit more on the last 2.2. I have a bad habit of wanting to build a buffer, which ends up with a risky positive split. Is it bad that I'd rather do both of those things than run 20 miles? lol it makes me wonder why you have chosen to train for a marathon. I do wonder though, for a rest week., why so much intensity? The purpose of the marathon training is to build base. The marathon itself was based on the thought that I may as well run a marathon if I'm going to train for one. The 10K is actually prescribed on the plan. The recovery weeks I have left are mainly tapers for races. This one is ended with a 10K, and the last recovery week before taper ends with a half mary. The FTP test is pushing it, but since this week is pretty easy outside of the 10K, I figured now is as good of a time to do it during my marathon training as any. My curiosity is too strong! Well, if you find you really don't like it just know that you have other base building options for sure. If you take a look at my training (saay ... the past 8 weeks or so?), even with frequent racing (where I have been tapering down approximately 25-30%), I am building and maintaining a really great base and it's built of more frequency and more intensity, rather than long long runs. This kind of training sounds right up your alley.
Edited by Asalzwed 2013-11-04 5:31 PM |
| 2013-11-04 5:38 PM in reply to: kcarroll |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by kcarroll I had a nice, easy Z2 4 mile run planned at lunch today. Pretty day so I hit the trails. It turned out a bit more exciting than expected. I got buzzed by a Coopers Hawk (I think...not a bird expert) about 5 times. She kept coming at me for about a half mile...flying pretty low to the ground at about knee height. It's too late in the year for it to have been protecting a nest but she really wanted me out of her woods. While a little startling, it was pretty cool to watch her navigate through the trees. Needless to say that mile was my fasted split. Woah crazy!!!! That is really cool. I got attacked by a robin once. I had it comin' though. I was much too close to the nest. |
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