Yanti & Salty MAD MANATEES Mentor Group - FULL POD (Page 22)

This is 100% dependent on what type of shoulder (or seemingly shoulder, or shows up in the shoulder as pain) injury you have. What was the diagnosis that got you sent to PT, what's the PT's opinion, and what kind of therapy are you doing/having there and what have they recommended you do during the week?

Happy Greek Easter!  You are really a training machine, aren't you!?  Swim squad - isn't that the insane cult you go to that swims 3k-4k on the regular???  But really, thank you for sharing, it's inspiring - I am chronically lazy when it comes to getting weekend workouts in!  Must...emulate...Jo...

Not knowing how to point your toes using your ankles (in some cases, how to do it at all) is very common among late-onset swimmers, and particularly runners (somewhat less so, but still, bikers too).

Hold your foot up so your toes are pointing up to the ceiling. Without using your toes or toe muscles at all--just moving the ankle joint--get your toes to point to the wall.

If you can't get your foot-toes to at least a 45-degree angle (from either ceiling or wall, I guess!), there's some ankle-flexibility stretches and work you can do that will really help with putting your feet in position for good swimming -- streamline and kicking.

I do the same thing - I pay for coached cycling workout at 5:30 am!!! It's torture, but it's the only time I can fit it in.  Good for you on the break through - isn't it awesome!? I have them most frequently when I ride horses, I switched disciplines after 27 years and it's like learning a new lanugage. But when I get the right feeling, it is amazing (especially when you feel the horse respond!).  For me, I've been really working on breathing normal - I used to PUSH air out under water and GASP air in when I surfaced.  I focus on breathing out through my nose mostly until it clears the water surface, it seems to really help.  I'm an every right strike breather, but I've been working on left side too.  I hear it's a good skill for OW.

Something for all of us to remember

Today was 6:15am triathlon bootcamp strength training:

4 x 40 secs each:
hands to elbows
leg raises in plank
moutain climbers
plank
push ups (wide, narrow)

4 x 40 sec each:
bicycle
hip raises
side to side
roll up
leg extensions

deadlift 10 each led; 10 step ups; 10 side step raises; 40 jumping jacks x 2; 10 x 4 around the world med ball; 40 secs each w/5 lbs shoulder press, front raise, side raise; 2 x 15 burpies.

We haven't had a workout that hard in about a month! I think my arms AND abs will be crying tomorrow.  I'm also hoping to get on my bike for my FIRST outdoor ride on it (my first road bike, first ride with the clipless pedals...ayayay) since it is FINALLY nice around here  The whole weekend should be great, but a little too warm for the Boston runner on Monday...I would be pissed if after all this cold, raw weather the sun and warmth finally shows up for marathon Monday.  But more often than not, that's the way it goes. Welcome to New England, people.

YAY ALLEN!

Really, like marriage and surgery, it's the commitment and the waiting that's the scary part. You will be AWESOME the day of!

I got you on tea. I actually said that to someone in CoJ the other day, and then realized they probably thought I meant actual tea. Heh.

It is a critical skill for OW and very important in creating a balanced stroke. In my opinion, learning to breathe predominantly with any specific pattern is not that important (e.g., every 3 strokes).

Focusing on breathing in swimming seems to have beneficial effects on all the aspects of swimming in training, and, as Salty referred to with "yoga breathing", is extremely helpful in keeping calm in OW race situations.

P.S. That strength routine looks OWIE--well done!

Congratulations on tenure!!  There should be some kind of rule that dinners should be good.  I'd expect more from your university! Isn't that what all the tuition is for? 

Sorry to hear about Sugar Daddy's (are we still allowed to call him that?) uncle.  Hope he has a safe trip back to Michigan and you survive with the girls.

You're like a text book on crazy infectious diseases!

BLECH indeed.

I am now (I suppose not so secretly) confessing I've been pretty sick the last two days ... don't even want Pop Tarts, which means I should have called an ambulance yesterday.

I'm terrible at seeking medical help when appropriate ... I'll see how it goes tomorrow. But anyway, that's why I haven't been posting much of late ...

As it should be!

Yikes. I can't even imagine the exhaustion that comes along with having and caring for a new baby ...

Oh, I can do that - i thought you were trying to teach me some super-duper flexible thing that actually had my ankles pointed somewhere rather that using my ankles to point my toes.  I feel much better now

I'll have to try pointing the ankles rather than my toes during my swim set this afternoon. Perhaps that will alleviate some of the cramping...

It should. The dealio is that you want the foot to be elongated, but still a bit floppy--in fact, exactly like a fin. And the only way to do that is to point from your ankles ... not your toes. Like a ballerina, that makes your toes rigid so you could stand on them.

And LOL to Ann-Marie!

Yanti, you not wanting PopTarts is a very bad sign.  Also, it is Friday, which means you will probably not see a doctor until next week.  Is there anyone you can see over the weekend?

cdban66 - 2012-04-13 8:33 AM Wow, be away from this thread for a day and look what happens, it goes nuts. So I am trying to catch up and reply wherever I can. In no particular order: 1) My morning beverage is coffee, black, one sweetener. It has been this way since I owned a diner a lifetime ago. 6 months ago I was introduced to the Java Chip Frappacino. OH. MY. GOODNESS. Yea, a little frozen heaven in a cup. I try to limit my intake of these treats, especially after reading the calorie content. 2) Adrienne, you do some really nice work. The inside of those stores really does set a mood and put the customer in a certain frame of mind. 3) Felicia, I hope the weather is as nice as can be hoped for on the weekend. The fact that there are rules stated for the race in the event of tornados, well that's crazy talk right there. 4) Church attire - I occasionally wear running gear under my church clothes and then run home afterward. Just an idea for those that are so inclined. 5) Melanie - Any time spent on the kayak is time well spent. Enjoy, I am jealous. 6) Race Nutrition - please take this with a grain of salt, I am not the most experienced. My current ride nutrition for anything over an hour is Fig Newtons. 2 of them are 90 calories and they keep me going for another hour or so (sort of). Gummy bears for any run over an hour. They travel well in my Amphipod. YMMV And agreed with Jo on the pre race. Water and pasta for me as well. 7) Kirsten - Congrats on the swim breakthrough! More to come, I'm sure. 8) Jo - Congrats on the run. Negative split = Positive run! Enjoy your Easter celebration! 9) Kristen - I am so sorry for your family's loss. I'll be keeping you all in my prayers. And resting the knee has never been a bad idea. I had about a month off in Dec this past year just to get that squared away. Spent time recharging the batteries and riding the bike a bit. That was less stressful on the knee for me, but I also think I caught it before it turned into an issue. Congrats on the tenure as well. 10) Yanti - Congrats on 39,000 more post then me. You have given me more stuff to think about when I am in the water, toe pointing! I already swim with a mental picture of your avatar to remind me to rotate my body. It is a wonder I don't drown with all the work that my brain is doing And please try to see a medical professional before you get more ill. I got in 6 miles of trails this morning, ran past a eagles nest that has a mom and babies in it. I am soooo blessed to live where I do. The mid point of the run is a dock that juts out into the bay. Fish jumping, birds flying, the whole nine yards. Just beautiful. I hope everyone has a wonderful day. Grab a hold of every opportunity you have to smile, for that makes you and everyone around you happy!

Hee hee.  I do the same thing...

Oh dear. I see new motherhood has not affected your razor-sharp perception anyway ... I was hoping to slink under the radar with that ...

Yes, there are people I can see over the weekend, although you're right, I probably won't. Also, it's twice as expensive. But I really really will go if I need to. I promise. Okay, I probably needed to today, but ... sigh. I won't let the money dictate whether I see a doc tomorrow, okay?

Thank you for caring ... really ... and I needed the flipper thwack on the azz, because you know how I am about going.

OMG Jo, you are a machine!!

Awwwrrr shucks ... shuffles feet ... grinning and pink

And DubSix ... I live in paradise, for sure (one side of where I live is bordered by an eco-preserve) but your place really does sound like paradise too!

Kristin, congrats on tenure!  Sorry for your family's loss as well.

Yanti, I hope you are feeling better and that it is nothing serious (again...)

Masters swim was good this AM.  About 2000m total.  Man, I DO NOT like kicking drills.  My legs scream the whole time.  Guess that means I should be doing more of them, huh?

Beautiful sunny day here--hoping it hangs around for the race on Sunday.  Have a great weekend everyone!

When I swim I also use the mental picture of Yanti in the water but mainly to remind me to look super sexy. 

*I do not live in paradise

bcraht - 2012-04-13 9:42 AM

cdban66 - 2012-04-13 8:33 AM Wow, be away from this thread for a day and look what happens, it goes nuts. So I am trying to catch up and reply wherever I can. In no particular order: 1) My morning beverage is coffee, black, one sweetener. It has been this way since I owned a diner a lifetime ago. 6 months ago I was introduced to the Java Chip Frappacino. OH. MY. GOODNESS. Yea, a little frozen heaven in a cup. I try to limit my intake of these treats, especially after reading the calorie content. 2) Adrienne, you do some really nice work. The inside of those stores really does set a mood and put the customer in a certain frame of mind. 3) Felicia, I hope the weather is as nice as can be hoped for on the weekend. The fact that there are rules stated for the race in the event of tornados, well that's crazy talk right there. 4) Church attire - I occasionally wear running gear under my church clothes and then run home afterward. Just an idea for those that are so inclined. 5) Melanie - Any time spent on the kayak is time well spent. Enjoy, I am jealous. 6) Race Nutrition - please take this with a grain of salt, I am not the most experienced. My current ride nutrition for anything over an hour is Fig Newtons. 2 of them are 90 calories and they keep me going for another hour or so (sort of). Gummy bears for any run over an hour. They travel well in my Amphipod. YMMV And agreed with Jo on the pre race. Water and pasta for me as well. 7) Kirsten - Congrats on the swim breakthrough! More to come, I'm sure. 8) Jo - Congrats on the run. Negative split = Positive run! Enjoy your Easter celebration! 9) Kristen - I am so sorry for your family's loss. I'll be keeping you all in my prayers. And resting the knee has never been a bad idea. I had about a month off in Dec this past year just to get that squared away. Spent time recharging the batteries and riding the bike a bit. That was less stressful on the knee for me, but I also think I caught it before it turned into an issue. Congrats on the tenure as well. 10) Yanti - Congrats on 39,000 more post then me. You have given me more stuff to think about when I am in the water, toe pointing! I already swim with a mental picture of your avatar to remind me to rotate my body. It is a wonder I don't drown with all the work that my brain is doing And please try to see a medical professional before you get more ill. I got in 6 miles of trails this morning, ran past a eagles nest that has a mom and babies in it. I am soooo blessed to live where I do. The mid point of the run is a dock that juts out into the bay. Fish jumping, birds flying, the whole nine yards. Just beautiful. I hope everyone has a wonderful day. Grab a hold of every opportunity you have to smile, for that makes you and everyone around you happy!

Hee hee.  I do the same thing...

ME TOO!!!!!!!!!!!