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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Techdiver - 2012-09-28 11:59 AM When is it appropriate to accept an offer for a date if you and your wife have signed a Separation agreement but she is still living with you until her apartment is available?
Side note I have been living in a separate room for about 2 months now.
I have been asked out and told it is casual not to think to hard about it by a friend, I have known she has liked me for a while. Just not sure what the right thing to do is. I told her to wait until after Nov 1 and she seemed a bit bummed about that.
I personally didn't date until my ex filed just because I felt it was wrong to date while we were married even if it was ending but that was because at the time I was hoping it would change. It's really up to you. Are you working on the marriage or trying to fix it? Would you feel bad if she knew you were dating? If the answer is no to the questions go on the date. |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() 4agoodlife - 2012-09-28 1:59 PM NRG42 - 2012-09-28 9:28 AM tech_geezer - 2012-09-28 11:25 AM 4agoodlife - 2012-09-28 12:19 PM Big Appa - 2012-09-28 9:10 AM 4agoodlife - 2012-09-28 9:08 AM Morning, All. So much goes on around here before my 9am! I know I'm late to the party, but just for the record... every day should be happy vagina day.
So you are a west coast person like myself. Early morning is the East coaster and me since I start work at 5am. Used to be Cali, but AZ now. Didn't know I'd have to look back 3 pages to "catch up" on the morning chatter! Casa Grande? Something Jaclarke said made me think you two know each other. TW maybe they are secret lovers All I know is that he showed up at my door with pizza and beer last night. Maybe he read about my afternoon craving yesterday. Couldn't close the door in his face. That would've been rude... and detrimental to getting what I wanted. Nothing wrong with a girl who knows what she wants and know how to get it. Pizza.....nice choice! Only flowers could have perfected the night. |
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![]() | ![]() Techdiver - 2012-09-28 1:59 PM When is it appropriate to accept an offer for a date if you and your wife have signed a Separation agreement but she is still living with you until her apartment is available?
Side note I have been living in a separate room for about 2 months now.
I have been asked out and told it is casual not to think to hard about it by a friend, I have known she has liked me for a while. Just not sure what the right thing to do is. I told her to wait until after Nov 1 and she seemed a bit bummed about that. I say don't over-think it. But also be up-front about your situation (which it sounds like you are). |
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Pro![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Teejaay - 2012-09-28 2:02 PM Big Appa - 2012-09-28 11:55 AM I hate you both. bradleyd3 - 2012-09-28 11:53 AM Big Appa - 2012-09-28 1:49 PM Fireworks make my ears yell bradleyd3 - 2012-09-28 11:47 AM Big Appa - 2012-09-28 1:44 PM The berries taste like burning..... bradleyd3 - 2012-09-28 11:43 AM Big Appa - 2012-09-28 1:42 PM Sounds like Ralphie from the Simpsons. Teejaay - 2012-09-28 11:39 AM jford2309 - 2012-09-28 11:34 AM Awwwww. I dislike the swimming either. today was the first swim since my HIM, felt good.
I realized though that I do not like to swim just to swim. It was tough to get it finished. Did I write this? Sleep. Thats where I'm a Viking! It says I choo choo choose you and it has a picture of a train on it. I found a moonrock in my nose. That's unpossible to hating us both. |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() NRG42 - 2012-09-28 3:01 PM so you won't need any help tcarlson78 - 2012-09-28 1:58 PM NRG42 - 2012-09-28 2:51 PM that sounds nice. Is it closer to work for you? You better not be working too hard moving and unpacking.tcarlson78 - 2012-09-28 1:46 PM NRG42 - 2012-09-28 2:41 PM TJ....time for us to wash our hair again and be lame? though I have a lot of shopping to do for my new "home" What is this new home thing you speak of? I missed all of that.
Moved into a two bedroom house with a 900 sq loft for the kids in RiverWest/Wickerpark. Rougher neighborhood (bunch of hipsters), but really happy with the brand new place and have tons of room for guest (if anyone ever wants to stay in chi-town). Will miss my swank amenties building, they will need to find a new resident Mom.
Same distance. Well I can barely breathe today, so small chance I over did it a bit, but everything is moved. And by the end of the weekend it will look liek I've live in the place for years.....but cleaner ![]() |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() bradleyd3 - 2012-09-28 12:04 PM Teejaay - 2012-09-28 2:02 PM That's unpossible to hating us both. Big Appa - 2012-09-28 11:55 AM I hate you both. bradleyd3 - 2012-09-28 11:53 AM Big Appa - 2012-09-28 1:49 PM Fireworks make my ears yell bradleyd3 - 2012-09-28 11:47 AM Big Appa - 2012-09-28 1:44 PM The berries taste like burning..... bradleyd3 - 2012-09-28 11:43 AM Big Appa - 2012-09-28 1:42 PM Sounds like Ralphie from the Simpsons. Teejaay - 2012-09-28 11:39 AM jford2309 - 2012-09-28 11:34 AM Awwwww. I dislike the swimming either. today was the first swim since my HIM, felt good.
I realized though that I do not like to swim just to swim. It was tough to get it finished. Did I write this? Sleep. Thats where I'm a Viking! It says I choo choo choose you and it has a picture of a train on it. I found a moonrock in my nose. She wants to hate us both at the same time. |
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![]() | ![]() Big Appa - 2012-09-28 2:03 PM Techdiver - 2012-09-28 11:59 AM When is it appropriate to accept an offer for a date if you and your wife have signed a Separation agreement but she is still living with you until her apartment is available?
Side note I have been living in a separate room for about 2 months now.
I have been asked out and told it is casual not to think to hard about it by a friend, I have known she has liked me for a while. Just not sure what the right thing to do is. I told her to wait until after Nov 1 and she seemed a bit bummed about that.
I personally didn't date until my ex filed just because I felt it was wrong to date while we were married even if it was ending but that was because at the time I was hoping it would change. It's really up to you. Are you working on the marriage or trying to fix it? Would you feel bad if she knew you were dating? If the answer is no to the questions go on the date. No I am done working on it. I tried to get her to counseling for 2 years. We don't have kids. And after the hidden credit card debt thing for the second time I am DONE. Not to mention I have been treated like crap for 3-4 years and no intimacy for about 2. But I would feel bad. I have always felt like i owe her for this or for that or everything. I feel like I owe it to her to not date serious. But I know some people that want me to get out and make sure I am not at home while we are both there waiting it out. We are getting along very respectfully. I know it would hurt her if I was on anything serious. But I can not live with this woman any longer. Most of our good friends keep telling me they are surprised I lasted this long. But I think you provided the right answer. I just need to lay ground rules and make sure going for Dinner means nothing more with people if I go. But I know how some people say ohhh it is casual and their intention is completely different. |
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![]() | ![]() lisac957 - 2012-09-28 2:03 PM Techdiver - 2012-09-28 1:59 PM When is it appropriate to accept an offer for a date if you and your wife have signed a Separation agreement but she is still living with you until her apartment is available?
Side note I have been living in a separate room for about 2 months now.
I have been asked out and told it is casual not to think to hard about it by a friend, I have known she has liked me for a while. Just not sure what the right thing to do is. I told her to wait until after Nov 1 and she seemed a bit bummed about that. I say don't over-think it. But also be up-front about your situation (which it sounds like you are). I am def upfront.
this girl knows EVERY thing that has been going on with my wife and I. And she knows I am not rushing out to date. I can't wait to have my house to myself so I can throw socks and cloths all about and leave things where I want... Although that will drive me insane after 15 mins and I will have to clean up..hahaha I am such a rebel... |
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Pro![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Teejaay - 2012-09-28 2:09 PM Big Appa - 2012-09-28 12:07 PM I'm Idaho! bradleyd3 - 2012-09-28 12:04 PM Teejaay - 2012-09-28 2:02 PM That's unpossible to hating us both. Big Appa - 2012-09-28 11:55 AM I hate you both. bradleyd3 - 2012-09-28 11:53 AM Big Appa - 2012-09-28 1:49 PM Fireworks make my ears yell bradleyd3 - 2012-09-28 11:47 AM Big Appa - 2012-09-28 1:44 PM The berries taste like burning..... bradleyd3 - 2012-09-28 11:43 AM Big Appa - 2012-09-28 1:42 PM Sounds like Ralphie from the Simpsons. Teejaay - 2012-09-28 11:39 AM jford2309 - 2012-09-28 11:34 AM Awwwww. I dislike the swimming either. today was the first swim since my HIM, felt good.
I realized though that I do not like to swim just to swim. It was tough to get it finished. Did I write this? Sleep. Thats where I'm a Viking! It says I choo choo choose you and it has a picture of a train on it. I found a moonrock in my nose. She wants to hate us both at the same time. The leprechan told me to burn things...... |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() tcarlson78 - 2012-09-28 2:06 PM NRG42 - 2012-09-28 3:01 PM so you won't need any help tcarlson78 - 2012-09-28 1:58 PM NRG42 - 2012-09-28 2:51 PM that sounds nice. Is it closer to work for you? You better not be working too hard moving and unpacking.tcarlson78 - 2012-09-28 1:46 PM NRG42 - 2012-09-28 2:41 PM TJ....time for us to wash our hair again and be lame? though I have a lot of shopping to do for my new "home" What is this new home thing you speak of? I missed all of that.
Moved into a two bedroom house with a 900 sq loft for the kids in RiverWest/Wickerpark. Rougher neighborhood (bunch of hipsters), but really happy with the brand new place and have tons of room for guest (if anyone ever wants to stay in chi-town). Will miss my swank amenties building, they will need to find a new resident Mom.
Same distance. Well I can barely breathe today, so small chance I over did it a bit, but everything is moved. And by the end of the weekend it will look liek I've live in the place for years.....but cleaner ![]() I am still able to eat and drink nice wine |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Techdiver - 2012-09-28 3:08 PM Big Appa - 2012-09-28 2:03 PM Techdiver - 2012-09-28 11:59 AM When is it appropriate to accept an offer for a date if you and your wife have signed a Separation agreement but she is still living with you until her apartment is available?
Side note I have been living in a separate room for about 2 months now.
I have been asked out and told it is casual not to think to hard about it by a friend, I have known she has liked me for a while. Just not sure what the right thing to do is. I told her to wait until after Nov 1 and she seemed a bit bummed about that.
I personally didn't date until my ex filed just because I felt it was wrong to date while we were married even if it was ending but that was because at the time I was hoping it would change. It's really up to you. Are you working on the marriage or trying to fix it? Would you feel bad if she knew you were dating? If the answer is no to the questions go on the date. No I am done working on it. I tried to get her to counseling for 2 years. We don't have kids. And after the hidden credit card debt thing for the second time I am DONE. Not to mention I have been treated like crap for 3-4 years and no intimacy for about 2. But I would feel bad. I have always felt like i owe her for this or for that or everything. I feel like I owe it to her to not date serious. But I know some people that want me to get out and make sure I am not at home while we are both there waiting it out. We are getting along very respectfully. I know it would hurt her if I was on anything serious. But I can not live with this woman any longer. Most of our good friends keep telling me they are surprised I lasted this long. But I think you provided the right answer. I just need to lay ground rules and make sure going for Dinner means nothing more with people if I go. But I know how some people say ohhh it is casual and their intention is completely different. Not sure about divorce laws in Canadia, but in NJ, even though we were living apart and had agreed to file on grounds of 18 months of physical separation (no-fault divorce does not exist in NJ) it was made clear to me by the legal types that either one of us could file on grounds of infidelity if we knew the other was sexually active. Even though it was "over" it wasn't legally over. Just be careful. |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Techdiver - 2012-09-28 3:08 PM Since your thinking about it then it matters. going out to dinner with someone is not a problem go have fun and laugh and smile. One risk I see is that if a relationship develops, that could put you at risk in the settlement of your divorce (it all depends on your local rules) I would not put that at risk and when your at dinner explain it that way. Better to wait on anything serious but don't live in fear. Big Appa - 2012-09-28 2:03 PM Techdiver - 2012-09-28 11:59 AM When is it appropriate to accept an offer for a date if you and your wife have signed a Separation agreement but she is still living with you until her apartment is available?
Side note I have been living in a separate room for about 2 months now.
I have been asked out and told it is casual not to think to hard about it by a friend, I have known she has liked me for a while. Just not sure what the right thing to do is. I told her to wait until after Nov 1 and she seemed a bit bummed about that.
I personally didn't date until my ex filed just because I felt it was wrong to date while we were married even if it was ending but that was because at the time I was hoping it would change. It's really up to you. Are you working on the marriage or trying to fix it? Would you feel bad if she knew you were dating? If the answer is no to the questions go on the date. No I am done working on it. I tried to get her to counseling for 2 years. We don't have kids. And after the hidden credit card debt thing for the second time I am DONE. Not to mention I have been treated like crap for 3-4 years and no intimacy for about 2. But I would feel bad. I have always felt like i owe her for this or for that or everything. I feel like I owe it to her to not date serious. But I know some people that want me to get out and make sure I am not at home while we are both there waiting it out. We are getting along very respectfully. I know it would hurt her if I was on anything serious. But I can not live with this woman any longer. Most of our good friends keep telling me they are surprised I lasted this long. But I think you provided the right answer. I just need to lay ground rules and make sure going for Dinner means nothing more with people if I go. But I know how some people say ohhh it is casual and their intention is completely different. |
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![]() | ![]() mrbbrad - 2012-09-28 2:12 PM Not sure about divorce laws in Canadia, but in NJ, even though we were living apart and had agreed to file on grounds of 18 months of physical separation (no-fault divorce does not exist in NJ) it was made clear to me by the legal types that either one of us could file on grounds of infidelity if we knew the other was sexually active. Even though it was "over" it wasn't legally over. Just be careful.
Well that Damn LAW SUCKS I have already gone 2 years without any loving. Now the damn courts say I have to wait one more. 1 year in Canada from the time of separation to be considered legal separation.
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Techdiver - 2012-09-28 12:14 PM mrbbrad - 2012-09-28 2:12 PM Not sure about divorce laws in Canadia, but in NJ, even though we were living apart and had agreed to file on grounds of 18 months of physical separation (no-fault divorce does not exist in NJ) it was made clear to me by the legal types that either one of us could file on grounds of infidelity if we knew the other was sexually active. Even though it was "over" it wasn't legally over. Just be careful.
Well that Damn LAW SUCKS I have already gone 2 years without any loving. Now the damn courts say I have to wait one more. 1 year in Canada from the time of separation to be considered legal separation.
Here in CA a legal separation only matters for money issues. Does Canada care about infidelity or things like that going into a divorce? Here it doesn't matter or my divorce would have gone a different way. |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Big Appa - 2012-09-28 3:16 PM Techdiver - 2012-09-28 12:14 PM mrbbrad - 2012-09-28 2:12 PM Not sure about divorce laws in Canadia, but in NJ, even though we were living apart and had agreed to file on grounds of 18 months of physical separation (no-fault divorce does not exist in NJ) it was made clear to me by the legal types that either one of us could file on grounds of infidelity if we knew the other was sexually active. Even though it was "over" it wasn't legally over. Just be careful.
Well that Damn LAW SUCKS I have already gone 2 years without any loving. Now the damn courts say I have to wait one more. 1 year in Canada from the time of separation to be considered legal separation.
Here in CA a legal separation only matters for money issues. Does Canada care about infidelity or things like that going into a divorce? Here it doesn't matter or my divorce would have gone a different way. And in NJ there is no legal separation; you're either married or divorced. Turns out a lot of people file under grounds of "extreme mental cruelty" and the courts are pretty liberal with what that constitutes. Sort of a work around for the lack of no-fault. |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() mrbbrad - 2012-09-28 12:22 PM And in NJ there is no legal separation; you're either married or divorced. Turns out a lot of people file under grounds of "extreme mental cruelty" and the courts are pretty liberal with what that constitutes. Sort of a work around for the lack of no-fault. Wish I would have got divorced in NJ. In CA it is truly a no fault state and cheating or cruelty doesn't mean jack. |
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Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Big Appa - 2012-09-28 12:27 PM mrbbrad - 2012-09-28 12:22 PM And in NJ there is no legal separation; you're either married or divorced. Turns out a lot of people file under grounds of "extreme mental cruelty" and the courts are pretty liberal with what that constitutes. Sort of a work around for the lack of no-fault. Wish I would have got divorced in NJ. In CA it is truly a no fault state and cheating or cruelty doesn't mean jack. So does this mean if one party decides its over then its over and all your sh*t gets split 50/50 no matter what? |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() mjr66 - 2012-09-28 3:30 PM Big Appa - 2012-09-28 12:27 PM mrbbrad - 2012-09-28 12:22 PM And in NJ there is no legal separation; you're either married or divorced. Turns out a lot of people file under grounds of "extreme mental cruelty" and the courts are pretty liberal with what that constitutes. Sort of a work around for the lack of no-fault. Wish I would have got divorced in NJ. In CA it is truly a no fault state and cheating or cruelty doesn't mean jack. So does this mean if one party decides its over then its over and all your sh*t gets split 50/50 no matter what? makes more sense than fighting to be with someone who wants nothing to do with you... |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Teejaay - 2012-09-28 12:33 PM mjr66 - 2012-09-28 12:30 PM Community property states ...doesn't mean 50/50...it's what is equitable. I divorced in AZ community property state ...just filed irreconcilable differences ..settled it through collaborative lawyers ...stuff was split equitably. Over in 7 months from start to finish. Big Appa - 2012-09-28 12:27 PM mrbbrad - 2012-09-28 12:22 PM And in NJ there is no legal separation; you're either married or divorced. Turns out a lot of people file under grounds of "extreme mental cruelty" and the courts are pretty liberal with what that constitutes. Sort of a work around for the lack of no-fault. Wish I would have got divorced in NJ. In CA it is truly a no fault state and cheating or cruelty doesn't mean jack. So does this mean if one party decides its over then its over and all your sh*t gets split 50/50 no matter what? We were able to come to an agreement over property and money but only with the help of lawyers and a mediator (on her part) but we were both legally equal in the eyes of the law. The house, money, and whatever else that was achieved while married was legally 50/50. |
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Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Big Appa - 2012-09-28 12:37 PM Teejaay - 2012-09-28 12:33 PM mjr66 - 2012-09-28 12:30 PM Community property states ...doesn't mean 50/50...it's what is equitable. I divorced in AZ community property state ...just filed irreconcilable differences ..settled it through collaborative lawyers ...stuff was split equitably. Over in 7 months from start to finish. Big Appa - 2012-09-28 12:27 PM mrbbrad - 2012-09-28 12:22 PM And in NJ there is no legal separation; you're either married or divorced. Turns out a lot of people file under grounds of "extreme mental cruelty" and the courts are pretty liberal with what that constitutes. Sort of a work around for the lack of no-fault. Wish I would have got divorced in NJ. In CA it is truly a no fault state and cheating or cruelty doesn't mean jack. So does this mean if one party decides its over then its over and all your sh*t gets split 50/50 no matter what? We were able to come to an agreement over property and money but only with the help of lawyers and a mediator (on her part) but we were both legally equal in the eyes of the law. The house, money, and whatever else that was achieved while married was legally 50/50. What I was really getting at was the notion that what leads to the divorce doesn't impact the division of 'stuff.' Seems like it could create some pretty unfair situations but probably works out best for the majority. Lucky for me I don't see this being something I need to worry about. |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Techdiver - 2012-09-28 12:14 PM mrbbrad - 2012-09-28 2:12 PM Not sure about divorce laws in Canadia, but in NJ, even though we were living apart and had agreed to file on grounds of 18 months of physical separation (no-fault divorce does not exist in NJ) it was made clear to me by the legal types that either one of us could file on grounds of infidelity if we knew the other was sexually active. Even though it was "over" it wasn't legally over. Just be careful.
Well that Damn LAW SUCKS I have already gone 2 years without any loving. Now the damn courts say I have to wait one more. 1 year in Canada from the time of separation to be considered legal separation.
If you're really concerned about how it might look or who could be at fault for something, is there anything stopping you from meeting for lunch or coffee? I realize still a "date", but maybe not as potentially tempting as a dinner/dessert date. Obviously, you might have already done the day dates. So it might mean you need to be patient until you are totally comfortable with your decision and don't need TAN's opinion. THEN you can report back on the awesome date you had! |
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