Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)

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rrrunner - 2013-05-08 11:25 PM

melbo55 - 2013-05-08 10:04 AM

capnrus789 - 2013-05-08 8:12 AM

Good morning all! Swimming question for the masses. I swim in a 25yd pool, and last night was averaging between 2:02 and 2:20/100 yds. With my bum knee I wasn't really pushing off very had, basically using just one leg, and I don't do flip turns. It's my first season do any sort of swim training, what do you think of my progress? I've always know how to swim, and starting focusing on it in January. My initial times were closer to 3:00/100 yds.

Also, what you do experienced swimmers average for times? Just curious as to how my fitness level ranks with others.

Thanks!

I'm here to make you feel better, LOL! I swim in a 25 meter pool and am usually around a few seconds +-2 min/100 for a 100, more than 2 min/100 if the distance is more. I'm pokey compared to most, but a little faster than a few. Sure I'd love to be faster and keep working on better form, but there is a part of me that wonders what makes some folks that much faster. Last week I was having a pretty fast-for-me day when some teenage piglets jumped in and reminded me just how slow I really am. I watched them with awe, wonder and envy - they made it look so effortless and went so fast!

Hang in there, keep practicing, and take any advice Yanti gives - she's a real fish! Jo is pretty fishy, too!

I'm always amazed at people that go from 3:00/100 to 2ish/100. My improvement never made it to that extreme. I went from barely finishing 25 to doing about 2:15/100. After two years of swimming I seemed to have stalled out at that number, with minor improvements occasionally. I guess I believe the theory that the amount of black line time it would take to make me a better swimmer is better used in other ways (b/r or "real life").

That's the thing. We've been ambulating on two legs our whole lives, so running simply isn't as difficult (still takes years of consistent work for vast improvement, though). And unless we're learning to ride a bike from scratch--but even then, it's still a lot easier to learn to ride a bike.

Swimming's like learning to play the piano, and then being able to play it really really fast. Like Flight of the Bumblebee.

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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)

TriAya - 2013-05-08 10:31 AM

rrrunner - 2013-05-08 11:25 PM

melbo55 - 2013-05-08 10:04 AM

capnrus789 - 2013-05-08 8:12 AM

Good morning all! Swimming question for the masses. I swim in a 25yd pool, and last night was averaging between 2:02 and 2:20/100 yds. With my bum knee I wasn't really pushing off very had, basically using just one leg, and I don't do flip turns. It's my first season do any sort of swim training, what do you think of my progress? I've always know how to swim, and starting focusing on it in January. My initial times were closer to 3:00/100 yds.

Also, what you do experienced swimmers average for times? Just curious as to how my fitness level ranks with others.

Thanks!

I'm here to make you feel better, LOL! I swim in a 25 meter pool and am usually around a few seconds +-2 min/100 for a 100, more than 2 min/100 if the distance is more. I'm pokey compared to most, but a little faster than a few. Sure I'd love to be faster and keep working on better form, but there is a part of me that wonders what makes some folks that much faster. Last week I was having a pretty fast-for-me day when some teenage piglets jumped in and reminded me just how slow I really am. I watched them with awe, wonder and envy - they made it look so effortless and went so fast!

Hang in there, keep practicing, and take any advice Yanti gives - she's a real fish! Jo is pretty fishy, too!

I'm always amazed at people that go from 3:00/100 to 2ish/100. My improvement never made it to that extreme. I went from barely finishing 25 to doing about 2:15/100. After two years of swimming I seemed to have stalled out at that number, with minor improvements occasionally. I guess I believe the theory that the amount of black line time it would take to make me a better swimmer is better used in other ways (b/r or "real life").

That's the thing. We've been ambulating on two legs our whole lives, so running simply isn't as difficult (still takes years of consistent work for vast improvement, though). And unless we're learning to ride a bike from scratch--but even then, it's still a lot easier to learn to ride a bike.

Swimming's like learning to play the piano, and then being able to play it really really fast. Like Flight of the Bumblebee.

A brilliant composition. I've seen it done on piano and by a trumpet line. Quite a feat.

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rrrunner - 2013-05-08 11:37 PM

TriAya - 2013-05-08 10:31 AM

rrrunner - 2013-05-08 11:25 PM

melbo55 - 2013-05-08 10:04 AM

capnrus789 - 2013-05-08 8:12 AM

Good morning all! Swimming question for the masses. I swim in a 25yd pool, and last night was averaging between 2:02 and 2:20/100 yds. With my bum knee I wasn't really pushing off very had, basically using just one leg, and I don't do flip turns. It's my first season do any sort of swim training, what do you think of my progress? I've always know how to swim, and starting focusing on it in January. My initial times were closer to 3:00/100 yds.

Also, what you do experienced swimmers average for times? Just curious as to how my fitness level ranks with others.

Thanks!

I'm here to make you feel better, LOL! I swim in a 25 meter pool and am usually around a few seconds +-2 min/100 for a 100, more than 2 min/100 if the distance is more. I'm pokey compared to most, but a little faster than a few. Sure I'd love to be faster and keep working on better form, but there is a part of me that wonders what makes some folks that much faster. Last week I was having a pretty fast-for-me day when some teenage piglets jumped in and reminded me just how slow I really am. I watched them with awe, wonder and envy - they made it look so effortless and went so fast!

Hang in there, keep practicing, and take any advice Yanti gives - she's a real fish! Jo is pretty fishy, too!

I'm always amazed at people that go from 3:00/100 to 2ish/100. My improvement never made it to that extreme. I went from barely finishing 25 to doing about 2:15/100. After two years of swimming I seemed to have stalled out at that number, with minor improvements occasionally. I guess I believe the theory that the amount of black line time it would take to make me a better swimmer is better used in other ways (b/r or "real life").

That's the thing. We've been ambulating on two legs our whole lives, so running simply isn't as difficult (still takes years of consistent work for vast improvement, though). And unless we're learning to ride a bike from scratch--but even then, it's still a lot easier to learn to ride a bike.

Swimming's like learning to play the piano, and then being able to play it really really fast. Like Flight of the Bumblebee.

A brilliant composition. I've seen it done on piano and by a trumpet line. Quite a feat.

Holy schitzendoodle.

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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)

TriAya - 2013-05-08 10:39 AM

rrrunner - 2013-05-08 11:37 PM

TriAya - 2013-05-08 10:31 AM

rrrunner - 2013-05-08 11:25 PM

melbo55 - 2013-05-08 10:04 AM

capnrus789 - 2013-05-08 8:12 AM

Good morning all! Swimming question for the masses. I swim in a 25yd pool, and last night was averaging between 2:02 and 2:20/100 yds. With my bum knee I wasn't really pushing off very had, basically using just one leg, and I don't do flip turns. It's my first season do any sort of swim training, what do you think of my progress? I've always know how to swim, and starting focusing on it in January. My initial times were closer to 3:00/100 yds.

Also, what you do experienced swimmers average for times? Just curious as to how my fitness level ranks with others.

Thanks!

I'm here to make you feel better, LOL! I swim in a 25 meter pool and am usually around a few seconds +-2 min/100 for a 100, more than 2 min/100 if the distance is more. I'm pokey compared to most, but a little faster than a few. Sure I'd love to be faster and keep working on better form, but there is a part of me that wonders what makes some folks that much faster. Last week I was having a pretty fast-for-me day when some teenage piglets jumped in and reminded me just how slow I really am. I watched them with awe, wonder and envy - they made it look so effortless and went so fast!

Hang in there, keep practicing, and take any advice Yanti gives - she's a real fish! Jo is pretty fishy, too!

I'm always amazed at people that go from 3:00/100 to 2ish/100. My improvement never made it to that extreme. I went from barely finishing 25 to doing about 2:15/100. After two years of swimming I seemed to have stalled out at that number, with minor improvements occasionally. I guess I believe the theory that the amount of black line time it would take to make me a better swimmer is better used in other ways (b/r or "real life").

That's the thing. We've been ambulating on two legs our whole lives, so running simply isn't as difficult (still takes years of consistent work for vast improvement, though). And unless we're learning to ride a bike from scratch--but even then, it's still a lot easier to learn to ride a bike.

Swimming's like learning to play the piano, and then being able to play it really really fast. Like Flight of the Bumblebee.

A brilliant composition. I've seen it done on piano and by a trumpet line. Quite a feat.

Holy schitzendoodle.

Exactly!

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TriAya - 2013-05-08 8:17 AM

a dear friend posted this on my FB with the caption: Indonesia's First Iron Woman!

hahaha

i do feel like this most days right now.

Do you have to be an IM competitor to relate? Cuz this SAHM looks like her^^^ most days

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capnrus789 - 2013-05-08 8:12 AM

Good morning all! Swimming question for the masses. I swim in a 25yd pool, and last night was averaging between 2:02 and 2:20/100 yds. With my bum knee I wasn't really pushing off very had, basically using just one leg, and I don't do flip turns. It's my first season do any sort of swim training, what do you think of my progress? I've always know how to swim, and starting focusing on it in January. My initial times were closer to 3:00/100 yds.

Also, what you do experienced swimmers average for times? Just curious as to how my fitness level ranks with others.

Thanks!

Started off at like 2:00/100 yds or so. Progressed slowly over a few years to maybe breaking 1:40 in some sets. The past few months in masters has seen that get down to around 1:22/100 yds or 1:30/100 meters plus/minus a few seconds depending on the set (our pool switches between them). Swimming can be very frustrating at times. Takes some good direction and a good deal of work.

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TriAya - 2013-05-08 11:33 AM

Long tough day but not in the usual ways. It's not 'til I get back to Bali that I realize how deeply fatigued I am. Spent most of the last three days sleeping. Really needed to. So today was travel day back to Jakarta and I'm still exhausted.

A good friend of mine, someone close in our Bali circle, died today. It wasn't totally unexpected--she'd been in hospital in Hawaii--but she'd been rallying back and we were hoping for the best. Not to be. I'm worried about her dogs, whom she adored, but I know our Bali friends are taking care of her affairs. She didn't really have family so we were her family.

Long tough day.

I am thinking your cloud needs to be changed from black to happy. We manatees need to rally and do a Happy Yanti dance! It needs to include chanting, while in our underwear, as we dance around our wetsuits eating pop tarts. Pictures need to be posted, especially of the hot half-naked single manatee piglets. {{{MELONPRESSES}}}

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rrrunner - 2013-05-08 10:30 AM

jmkizer - 2013-05-08 9:19 AM

Oh, get the bike. I'm told that bike technology* is currently changing enough that it's worth an upgrade about every five years. You are past due for a bike technology upgrade! ;-)

* This was specifically referring to road bikes. I think that tri bikes maybe in a similar place. I think that mountain bikes may actually be moving faster with 26, 29 and now 27.5s...

Therein lies the key to my dihlemma. If I'm going to do this I want it to be a true improvement, not just new for new's sake. This weekend I'll go to a shop owner I know and trust. His website even talks about doing a fit or "sizing" to make sure the correct brand/model is chosen. Yet on Ann-Marie's other hands I want to get last year's model for better pricing which could limit my options.

What kind of things are involved with the "sizing" description? A fit bike? It's quite possible without, but usually takes a very good eye with a lot of experience. Should know something about stack & reach. They also don't worry about things like stand-over.

The last year's model idea can be an excellent way to get a lot of value. Most won't really change the frame much from year to year except rather minor things. Then do some much more significant design change one year. It's in those years you may want to at least think about it instead of automatically going for last year.

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brigby1 - 2013-05-08 11:55 PM

rrrunner - 2013-05-08 10:30 AM

jmkizer - 2013-05-08 9:19 AM

Oh, get the bike. I'm told that bike technology* is currently changing enough that it's worth an upgrade about every five years. You are past due for a bike technology upgrade! ;-)

* This was specifically referring to road bikes. I think that tri bikes maybe in a similar place. I think that mountain bikes may actually be moving faster with 26, 29 and now 27.5s...

Therein lies the key to my dihlemma. If I'm going to do this I want it to be a true improvement, not just new for new's sake. This weekend I'll go to a shop owner I know and trust. His website even talks about doing a fit or "sizing" to make sure the correct brand/model is chosen. Yet on Ann-Marie's other hands I want to get last year's model for better pricing which could limit my options.

What kind of things are involved with the "sizing" description? A fit bike? It's quite possible without, but usually takes a very good eye with a lot of experience. Should know something about stack & reach. They also don't worry about things like stand-over.

The last year's model idea can be an excellent way to get a lot of value. Most won't really change the frame much from year to year except rather minor things. Then do some much more significant design change one year. It's in those years you may want to at least think about it instead of automatically going for last year.

Does this bike shop carry last year's models?

Is he a FIST fitter (no, not what it sounds like!) It's not a guarantee but there's definitely a standard.

Generally a really solid pro fitting costs at the very least $200 (3-4 is more common) and is going to take a couple 2-3 hours as well. Some places that also sell bikes (there are pluses and minuses to that) will put all or part of that to the purchase.

I really gotta chase down that David Greenfield link.

Ah, here. I think it's under The Fit Process or it may actually link directly if you're lucky.

http://www.elitebicycles.com/tech_tut_fit.php

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jogo - 2013-05-08 11:52 PM

TriAya - 2013-05-08 11:33 AM

Long tough day but not in the usual ways. It's not 'til I get back to Bali that I realize how deeply fatigued I am. Spent most of the last three days sleeping. Really needed to. So today was travel day back to Jakarta and I'm still exhausted.

A good friend of mine, someone close in our Bali circle, died today. It wasn't totally unexpected--she'd been in hospital in Hawaii--but she'd been rallying back and we were hoping for the best. Not to be. I'm worried about her dogs, whom she adored, but I know our Bali friends are taking care of her affairs. She didn't really have family so we were her family.

Long tough day.

I am thinking your cloud needs to be changed from black to happy. We manatees need to rally and do a Happy Yanti dance! It needs to include chanting, while in our underwear, as we dance around our wetsuits eating pop tarts. Pictures need to be posted, especially of the hot half-naked single manatee piglets. {{{MELONPRESSES}}}

YES. I WANT PICS.

{MELON PRESS}

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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)

TriAya - 2013-05-08 11:04 AM

jogo - 2013-05-08 11:52 PM

TriAya - 2013-05-08 11:33 AM

Long tough day but not in the usual ways. It's not 'til I get back to Bali that I realize how deeply fatigued I am. Spent most of the last three days sleeping. Really needed to. So today was travel day back to Jakarta and I'm still exhausted.

A good friend of mine, someone close in our Bali circle, died today. It wasn't totally unexpected--she'd been in hospital in Hawaii--but she'd been rallying back and we were hoping for the best. Not to be. I'm worried about her dogs, whom she adored, but I know our Bali friends are taking care of her affairs. She didn't really have family so we were her family.

Long tough day.

I am thinking your cloud needs to be changed from black to happy. We manatees need to rally and do a Happy Yanti dance! It needs to include chanting, while in our underwear, as we dance around our wetsuits eating pop tarts. Pictures need to be posted, especially of the hot half-naked single manatee piglets. {{{MELONPRESSES}}}

YES. I WANT PICS.

{MELON PRESS}

Under-roos are a bonus

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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)

TriAya - 2013-05-08 11:33 AM

Long tough day but not in the usual ways. It's not 'til I get back to Bali that I realize how deeply fatigued I am. Spent most of the last three days sleeping. Really needed to. So today was travel day back to Jakarta and I'm still exhausted.

A good friend of mine, someone close in our Bali circle, died today. It wasn't totally unexpected--she'd been in hospital in Hawaii--but she'd been rallying back and we were hoping for the best. Not to be. I'm worried about her dogs, whom she adored, but I know our Bali friends are taking care of her affairs. She didn't really have family so we were her family.

Long tough day.

Please accept my condolences. A very sad situation.

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rrrunner - 2013-05-08 12:37 PM

TriAya - 2013-05-08 10:31 AM

rrrunner - 2013-05-08 11:25 PM

melbo55 - 2013-05-08 10:04 AM

capnrus789 - 2013-05-08 8:12 AM

Good morning all! Swimming question for the masses. I swim in a 25yd pool, and last night was averaging between 2:02 and 2:20/100 yds. With my bum knee I wasn't really pushing off very had, basically using just one leg, and I don't do flip turns. It's my first season do any sort of swim training, what do you think of my progress? I've always know how to swim, and starting focusing on it in January. My initial times were closer to 3:00/100 yds.

Also, what you do experienced swimmers average for times? Just curious as to how my fitness level ranks with others.

Thanks!

I'm here to make you feel better, LOL! I swim in a 25 meter pool and am usually around a few seconds +-2 min/100 for a 100, more than 2 min/100 if the distance is more. I'm pokey compared to most, but a little faster than a few. Sure I'd love to be faster and keep working on better form, but there is a part of me that wonders what makes some folks that much faster. Last week I was having a pretty fast-for-me day when some teenage piglets jumped in and reminded me just how slow I really am. I watched them with awe, wonder and envy - they made it look so effortless and went so fast!

Hang in there, keep practicing, and take any advice Yanti gives - she's a real fish! Jo is pretty fishy, too!

I'm always amazed at people that go from 3:00/100 to 2ish/100. My improvement never made it to that extreme. I went from barely finishing 25 to doing about 2:15/100. After two years of swimming I seemed to have stalled out at that number, with minor improvements occasionally. I guess I believe the theory that the amount of black line time it would take to make me a better swimmer is better used in other ways (b/r or "real life").

That's the thing. We've been ambulating on two legs our whole lives, so running simply isn't as difficult (still takes years of consistent work for vast improvement, though). And unless we're learning to ride a bike from scratch--but even then, it's still a lot easier to learn to ride a bike.

Swimming's like learning to play the piano, and then being able to play it really really fast. Like Flight of the Bumblebee.

A brilliant composition. I've seen it done on piano and by a trumpet line. Quite a feat.

Wow, no joke!! That would be hardcore.

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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)

melbo55 - 2013-05-08 12:04 PM

capnrus789 - 2013-05-08 8:12 AM

Good morning all! Swimming question for the masses. I swim in a 25yd pool, and last night was averaging between 2:02 and 2:20/100 yds. With my bum knee I wasn't really pushing off very had, basically using just one leg, and I don't do flip turns. It's my first season do any sort of swim training, what do you think of my progress? I've always know how to swim, and starting focusing on it in January. My initial times were closer to 3:00/100 yds.

Also, what you do experienced swimmers average for times? Just curious as to how my fitness level ranks with others.

Thanks!

I'm here to make you feel better, LOL! I swim in a 25 meter pool and am usually around a few seconds +-2 min/100 for a 100, more than 2 min/100 if the distance is more. I'm pokey compared to most, but a little faster than a few. Sure I'd love to be faster and keep working on better form, but there is a part of me that wonders what makes some folks that much faster. Last week I was having a pretty fast-for-me day when some teenage piglets jumped in and reminded me just how slow I really am. I watched them with awe, wonder and envy - they made it look so effortless and went so fast!

Hang in there, keep practicing, and take any advice Yanti gives - she's a real fish! Jo is pretty fishy, too!

That she is...

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rrrunner - 2013-05-08 9:37 AM

TriAya - 2013-05-08 10:31 AM

rrrunner - 2013-05-08 11:25 PM

melbo55 - 2013-05-08 10:04 AM

capnrus789 - 2013-05-08 8:12 AM

Good morning all! Swimming question for the masses. I swim in a 25yd pool, and last night was averaging between 2:02 and 2:20/100 yds. With my bum knee I wasn't really pushing off very had, basically using just one leg, and I don't do flip turns. It's my first season do any sort of swim training, what do you think of my progress? I've always know how to swim, and starting focusing on it in January. My initial times were closer to 3:00/100 yds.

Also, what you do experienced swimmers average for times? Just curious as to how my fitness level ranks with others.

Thanks!

I'm here to make you feel better, LOL! I swim in a 25 meter pool and am usually around a few seconds +-2 min/100 for a 100, more than 2 min/100 if the distance is more. I'm pokey compared to most, but a little faster than a few. Sure I'd love to be faster and keep working on better form, but there is a part of me that wonders what makes some folks that much faster. Last week I was having a pretty fast-for-me day when some teenage piglets jumped in and reminded me just how slow I really am. I watched them with awe, wonder and envy - they made it look so effortless and went so fast!

Hang in there, keep practicing, and take any advice Yanti gives - she's a real fish! Jo is pretty fishy, too!

I'm always amazed at people that go from 3:00/100 to 2ish/100. My improvement never made it to that extreme. I went from barely finishing 25 to doing about 2:15/100. After two years of swimming I seemed to have stalled out at that number, with minor improvements occasionally. I guess I believe the theory that the amount of black line time it would take to make me a better swimmer is better used in other ways (b/r or "real life").

That's the thing. We've been ambulating on two legs our whole lives, so running simply isn't as difficult (still takes years of consistent work for vast improvement, though). And unless we're learning to ride a bike from scratch--but even then, it's still a lot easier to learn to ride a bike.

Swimming's like learning to play the piano, and then being able to play it really really fast. Like Flight of the Bumblebee.

A brilliant composition. I've seen it done on piano and by a trumpet line. Quite a feat.

Ohhhhh! Yes. Always fun to hear that one. And now it will be playing in my head during my swim tonight. LOL

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4agoodlife - 2013-05-09 12:23 AM

rrrunner - 2013-05-08 9:37 AM

TriAya - 2013-05-08 10:31 AM

rrrunner - 2013-05-08 11:25 PM

melbo55 - 2013-05-08 10:04 AM

capnrus789 - 2013-05-08 8:12 AM

Good morning all! Swimming question for the masses. I swim in a 25yd pool, and last night was averaging between 2:02 and 2:20/100 yds. With my bum knee I wasn't really pushing off very had, basically using just one leg, and I don't do flip turns. It's my first season do any sort of swim training, what do you think of my progress? I've always know how to swim, and starting focusing on it in January. My initial times were closer to 3:00/100 yds.

Also, what you do experienced swimmers average for times? Just curious as to how my fitness level ranks with others.

Thanks!

I'm here to make you feel better, LOL! I swim in a 25 meter pool and am usually around a few seconds +-2 min/100 for a 100, more than 2 min/100 if the distance is more. I'm pokey compared to most, but a little faster than a few. Sure I'd love to be faster and keep working on better form, but there is a part of me that wonders what makes some folks that much faster. Last week I was having a pretty fast-for-me day when some teenage piglets jumped in and reminded me just how slow I really am. I watched them with awe, wonder and envy - they made it look so effortless and went so fast!

Hang in there, keep practicing, and take any advice Yanti gives - she's a real fish! Jo is pretty fishy, too!

I'm always amazed at people that go from 3:00/100 to 2ish/100. My improvement never made it to that extreme. I went from barely finishing 25 to doing about 2:15/100. After two years of swimming I seemed to have stalled out at that number, with minor improvements occasionally. I guess I believe the theory that the amount of black line time it would take to make me a better swimmer is better used in other ways (b/r or "real life").

That's the thing. We've been ambulating on two legs our whole lives, so running simply isn't as difficult (still takes years of consistent work for vast improvement, though). And unless we're learning to ride a bike from scratch--but even then, it's still a lot easier to learn to ride a bike.

Swimming's like learning to play the piano, and then being able to play it really really fast. Like Flight of the Bumblebee.

A brilliant composition. I've seen it done on piano and by a trumpet line. Quite a feat.

Ohhhhh! Yes. Always fun to hear that one. And now it will be playing in my head during my swim tonight. LOL

Bet you don't have to breathe every 4, then.

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Here is a photo of today's super hero in underoos...

introducing my son...

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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)

brigby1 - 2013-05-08 12:55 PM

rrrunner - 2013-05-08 10:30 AM

jmkizer - 2013-05-08 9:19 AM

Oh, get the bike. I'm told that bike technology* is currently changing enough that it's worth an upgrade about every five years. You are past due for a bike technology upgrade! ;-)

* This was specifically referring to road bikes. I think that tri bikes maybe in a similar place. I think that mountain bikes may actually be moving faster with 26, 29 and now 27.5s...

Therein lies the key to my dihlemma. If I'm going to do this I want it to be a true improvement, not just new for new's sake. This weekend I'll go to a shop owner I know and trust. His website even talks about doing a fit or "sizing" to make sure the correct brand/model is chosen. Yet on Ann-Marie's other hands I want to get last year's model for better pricing which could limit my options.

What kind of things are involved with the "sizing" description? A fit bike? It's quite possible without, but usually takes a very good eye with a lot of experience. Should know something about stack & reach. They also don't worry about things like stand-over.

The last year's model idea can be an excellent way to get a lot of value. Most won't really change the frame much from year to year except rather minor things. Then do some much more significant design change one year. It's in those years you may want to at least think about it instead of automatically going for last year.

One of our local shops does their pre-fit by measuring you. The have a ruler thing that goes from crotch to floor and so on. They eliminate a good bit of their product line that way.

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crews - 2013-05-09 12:27 AM

Here is a photo of today's super hero in underoos...

introducing my son...

An example to us all!

Caaaaarla ... I feel much better already.

I kinda wanna do the next IM in that outfit.

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OMG that is amazing Carla!!!

Oh man, next time the undie run happens in Seattle this is exactly what I will be wearing. Ski goggles included.

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Melon Presser

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Asalzwed - 2013-05-09 12:31 AM

OMG that is amazing Carla!!!

Oh man, next time the undie run happens in Seattle this is exactly what I will be wearing. Ski goggles included.

No top either?

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TriAya - 2013-05-08 12:33 PM

Asalzwed - 2013-05-09 12:31 AM

OMG that is amazing Carla!!!

Oh man, next time the undie run happens in Seattle this is exactly what I will be wearing. Ski goggles included.

No top either?

Nah, why bother.

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Melon Presser

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Asalzwed - 2013-05-09 12:34 AM

TriAya - 2013-05-08 12:33 PM

Asalzwed - 2013-05-09 12:31 AM

OMG that is amazing Carla!!!

Oh man, next time the undie run happens in Seattle this is exactly what I will be wearing. Ski goggles included.

No top either?

Nah, why bother.

Just don't unnecessarily bruise any bystanders.

By colliding with them, I mean.

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Master

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Asalzwed - 2013-05-08 10:34 AM

TriAya - 2013-05-08 12:33 PM

Asalzwed - 2013-05-09 12:31 AM

OMG that is amazing Carla!!!

Oh man, next time the undie run happens in Seattle this is exactly what I will be wearing. Ski goggles included.

No top either?

Nah, why bother.

July 6th here in Vancouver

You could run with these guys

Edited by bcraht 2013-05-08 12:40 PM

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TriAya - 2013-05-08 12:37 PM

Asalzwed - 2013-05-09 12:34 AM

TriAya - 2013-05-08 12:33 PM

Asalzwed - 2013-05-09 12:31 AM

OMG that is amazing Carla!!!

Oh man, next time the undie run happens in Seattle this is exactly what I will be wearing. Ski goggles included.

No top either?

Nah, why bother.

Just don't unnecessarily bruise any bystanders.

By colliding with them, I mean.

Yeah, that has been an issue.

Fffuuuuuuuuu I was just thinking of that undie run I DID do. My friend got WILDLY intoxicated ...

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