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2011-04-14 1:42 PM
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fattyfatfat - 2011-04-14 2:24 PM
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gdale - 2011-04-14 11:23 AM

having adult conversations with my wife (and other adult activities!), sleeping...

These are just some of the things (not necessarilly in order) that get higher priority than writing a  race report!!

Nice!  This mentor group will talk about anything.  Too bad BT doesn't have a place to log those activities Laughing

You just need to be creative....add it in under 'other sports'! Wink

Bike:11h 30m
Run:9h 00m
Swim:5h 33m 10s
i'd hit it:07s

Dude, You're an endurance athlete.  Better get training!!



2011-04-14 2:04 PM
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cherifortin - 2011-04-14 2:25 AM

3. Why do my toes go numb after mile 10... everytime I bike?  I hate it and it makes the run transitions hard!

This question seems to have been overlooked. So I will throw my 2 cents out there.

There a number of possible reasons for this including:

1. Bike Fit.

2. Bike Shoes. Too tight OR too loose can cause numbness.

3. Tightening your shoes to tight.

4. Cleat placement.

5. Your mechanics might require a wedge between one or both cleats and the shoe; and

6. Crank arms might be too long.

There could be other reasons or a combination of them. If your knees do not bother you than it is probably not item 6. I bet your shoes are the reason.

Doug

PS: I see after posting that Tony also responded. Let me add that feet tend to swell while riding and if the shoes are comfortable when you start they may become tight over time. Bear that in mind when choosing your shoe fit.

 

+1  I agree. My feet gets numb, and discovered that I've been using one size too small shoes and too narrow. It didn't cause too much of a problem last year, but now it is bothersome.  Got new shoes, voila - problem is gone!

2011-04-14 2:19 PM
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Have you ever noticed that the health industry keeps promoting better nutrition but the prices are double to triple the cost of junk food.

2011-04-14 2:41 PM
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mike6232 - 2011-04-14 2:15 PM Back on the hydration topic.  Has anyone used coconut water?  A friend told me about it and stated that it is great for hydration.  I have not used it.  Anyone have any thoughts on it?

Yes, it's one of the things Sam and I drank while on our weekly cleanse of no sugar/caffine/dairy/etc.

It's actually tastes pretty good and it has quite a few sports drink like qualities without the sugar and chemicals.

2011-04-14 2:58 PM
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fowlmood - 2011-04-14 2:19 PM

Have you ever noticed that the health industry keeps promoting better nutrition but the prices are double to triple the cost of junk food.

Yes.  It's been an ongoing concern across the country for a lot of years, and it is one of the reasons why there is a higher obesity rate in lower income households.  Unhealthy food is often processed and has a longer shelf life, which makes the cost to produce them far less than healthier foods that have a limited shelf life and limited availability in time and geography. 

Ryan eats unhealthily and can buy his food for a week for about $30.  I cost about $70.

2011-04-14 3:11 PM
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gdale - 2011-04-14 11:23 AM

having adult conversations with my wife (and other adult activities!), sleeping...

These are just some of the things (not necessarilly in order) that get higher priority than writing a  race report!!

Nice!  This mentor group will talk about anything.  Too bad BT doesn't have a place to log those activities Laughing

I don't know what you are talking about.  I was referring to Trival Pursuit.  The kids suck at the adult version of that!!!

Oh and BT does have a place to log what your talking about.  It's called  BODY SURFING

 



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fowlmood - 2011-04-14 3:19 PM

Have you ever noticed that the health industry keeps promoting better nutrition but the prices are double to triple the cost of junk food.

I notice it every time I pay $8 for some grapes at the grocery store and the box of Little Debbie brownies costs $1.59.

George

 

2011-04-14 3:27 PM
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velcromom - 2011-04-14 9:56 AM
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gdale - 2011-04-14 11:23 AM

having adult conversations with my wife (and other adult activities!), sleeping...

These are just some of the things (not necessarilly in order) that get higher priority than writing a  race report!!

Nice!  This mentor group will talk about anything.  Too bad BT doesn't have a place to log those activities Laughing

You just need to be creative....add it in under 'other sports'! Wink

I think it goes under Body Surfing.... or Hand Cycling - depending on your situation.

edit - man, you look away to answer a couple emails and get sniped.... oh, well.



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SSMinnow - 2011-04-14 11:10 AM  Fatty: Quite the name dropper...you staying with Mike while doing your IM?

no.  he's staying with me.

they'll be spoonin'

 

It'll make race day a little weird, when Mike screams out " JOHN DAVIS YOU ARE AN IRONMAN." - could be a total double meaning.

2011-04-14 3:38 PM
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jfought - 2011-04-14 9:31 AM
gdale - 2011-04-14 11:23 AM

having adult conversations with my wife (and other adult activities!), sleeping...

These are just some of the things (not necessarilly in order) that get higher priority than writing a  race report!!

Nice!  This mentor group will talk about anything.  Too bad BT doesn't have a place to log those activities Laughing

You just need to be creative....add it in under 'other sports'! Wink

Bike:11h 30m
Run:9h 00m
Swim:5h 33m 10s
i'd hit it:07s

Technically, "I'd hit it" isn't burning any calories. "I hit it" would be burning calories.

2011-04-14 3:44 PM
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TrevorC - 2011-04-14 4:38 PM
fattyfatfat - 2011-04-14 12:24 PM
velcromom - 2011-04-14 12:56 PM
jfought - 2011-04-14 9:31 AM
gdale - 2011-04-14 11:23 AM

having adult conversations with my wife (and other adult activities!), sleeping...

These are just some of the things (not necessarilly in order) that get higher priority than writing a  race report!!

Nice!  This mentor group will talk about anything.  Too bad BT doesn't have a place to log those activities Laughing

You just need to be creative....add it in under 'other sports'! Wink

Bike:11h 30m
Run:9h 00m
Swim:5h 33m 10s
i'd hit it:07s

Technically, "I'd hit it" isn't burning any calories. "I hit it" would be burning calories.

Do you know this because John copied it from your training log???

 



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7 seconds?  Really?   That's sad.  Innocent
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fowlmood - 2011-04-14 2:19 PM

Have you ever noticed that the health industry keeps promoting better nutrition but the prices are double to triple the cost of junk food.

Yes.  It's been an ongoing concern across the country for a lot of years, and it is one of the reasons why there is a higher obesity rate in lower income households.  Unhealthy food is often processed and has a longer shelf life, which makes the cost to produce them far less than healthier foods that have a limited shelf life and limited availability in time and geography. 

Ryan eats unhealthily and can buy his food for a week for about $30.  I cost about $70.

Don't get me started... food is something I am extremely passionate about and I strive to provide good nutrition for my family, support local farmers, make good choices for myself, etc. Oh, I dream more about this more than it's a reality: My kids are the pickiest eaters ever (what kids don't eat pasta?) and my husband is a self-proclaimed veggie-hater. But that doesn't stop me. If they won't eat the fabulous food I push, at least I do my best to educate them about the crap they choose to eat and the choices they choose to make. Good food costs more because it is not government-subsidized and filled with corn- and soy-based additives. Raising a cow on grass costs more and requires much more space than raising it on corn feed. Processing a cow one at a time, humanely and using high standards costs more than what goes on at the huge slauterhouses.

IMO, the single-best thing I do for my family and my enviornment is to support local CSAs. I've been buying local produce for 3 or 4 years. Do I love everything I get? No. But I have learned a ton about vegetables! I, too, had never eaten a turnip or a parsnip. Now I have all sorts of ways to prepare them and love when they appear in my veggie box. I am constantly overwhelmed by greens (chard, kale) because no matter how I prepare them my husband doesn't really care for them (he eats one serving at dinner because he knows it's good for him!) -- but there's only so many greens a gal can eat day in and day out, ha!! But I don't give up. And when all else fails, I'll just puree a batch of kale and feed it to my dog (yes, he eats a raw diet -- no processed food for him!).

If anyone finds school nutrition an interesting topic, tune into Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution. It's an awesome show. My kids love it, too. Jamie Oliver is trying to revamp school food and is currently tackling the LA school district, and meeting with tons of resistance. But he is persistent and I can't wait to see how it all ends up.

Off my soap box. But I love to talk about and learn about food (and I love to eat it, too!!).

Need to go drink a bunch of water and head to PT!

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TrevorC - 2011-04-14 4:38 PM
fattyfatfat - 2011-04-14 12:24 PM
velcromom - 2011-04-14 12:56 PM
jfought - 2011-04-14 9:31 AM
gdale - 2011-04-14 11:23 AM

having adult conversations with my wife (and other adult activities!), sleeping...

These are just some of the things (not necessarilly in order) that get higher priority than writing a  race report!!

Nice!  This mentor group will talk about anything.  Too bad BT doesn't have a place to log those activities Laughing

You just need to be creative....add it in under 'other sports'! Wink

Bike:11h 30m
Run:9h 00m
Swim:5h 33m 10s
i'd hit it:07s

Technically, "I'd hit it" isn't burning any calories. "I hit it" would be burning calories.

but then you have to listen to her (edit... or him if the case may be) .  "i'd hit it" is a whole lot easier. 



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Bike:11h 30m
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Swim:5h 33m 10s
I hit it:07s  Every chance Jarrett gives me!

Fixed that for one for you also .....

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fowlmood - 2011-04-14 2:19 PM

Have you ever noticed that the health industry keeps promoting better nutrition but the prices are double to triple the cost of junk food.

Yes.  It's been an ongoing concern across the country for a lot of years, and it is one of the reasons why there is a higher obesity rate in lower income households.  Unhealthy food is often processed and has a longer shelf life, which makes the cost to produce them far less than healthier foods that have a limited shelf life and limited availability in time and geography. 

Ryan eats unhealthily and can buy his food for a week for about $30.  I cost about $70.

Don't get me started... food is something I am extremely passionate about and I strive to provide good nutrition for my family, support local farmers, make good choices for myself, etc. Oh, I dream more about this more than it's a reality: My kids are the pickiest eaters ever (what kids don't eat pasta?) and my husband is a self-proclaimed veggie-hater. But that doesn't stop me. If they won't eat the fabulous food I push, at least I do my best to educate them about the crap they choose to eat and the choices they choose to make. Good food costs more because it is not government-subsidized and filled with corn- and soy-based additives. Raising a cow on grass costs more and requires much more space than raising it on corn feed. Processing a cow one at a time, humanely and using high standards costs more than what goes on at the huge slauterhouses.

IMO, the single-best thing I do for my family and my enviornment is to support local CSAs. I've been buying local produce for 3 or 4 years. Do I love everything I get? No. But I have learned a ton about vegetables! I, too, had never eaten a turnip or a parsnip. Now I have all sorts of ways to prepare them and love when they appear in my veggie box. I am constantly overwhelmed by greens (chard, kale) because no matter how I prepare them my husband doesn't really care for them (he eats one serving at dinner because he knows it's good for him!) -- but there's only so many greens a gal can eat day in and day out, ha!! But I don't give up. And when all else fails, I'll just puree a batch of kale and feed it to my dog (yes, he eats a raw diet -- no processed food for him!).

If anyone finds school nutrition an interesting topic, tune into Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution. It's an awesome show. My kids love it, too. Jamie Oliver is trying to revamp school food and is currently tackling the LA school district, and meeting with tons of resistance. But he is persistent and I can't wait to see how it all ends up.

Off my soap box. But I love to talk about and learn about food (and I love to eat it, too!!).

Need to go drink a bunch of water and head to PT!

CAN WE STAY ON TOPIC, Please???? 

You bring up such good points, Kyla!  What a great philosophy...while eating organic and locally is more expensive, it is so good for our local economy.  Not to mention tastier and healthier.

We do the Farmer's market especially more so in the spring/summer and really only buy grass fed beef and locally raised chicken these days.  It is much easier with a family of two and living in No. Cal, with great produce year round.  I think much harder financially for a family of 4 or more!  Kudos to making great choices! 

 

 



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kt65 - 2011-04-14 6:03 PM 

CAN WE STAY ON TOPIC, Please????   

I thought we were on a topic?  Hahahaha  

I'm really liking this MG so far!

Ok, I'll ask a serious question.  What cadence are you all spinning when you're training?  I have a tri bike and I've been trying to stay around 85-90.  Does that sound about right?

2011-04-14 5:51 PM
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kt65 - 2011-04-14 3:03 PM

CAN WE STAY ON TOPIC, Please???? 

You bring up such good points, Kyla!  What a great philosophy...while eating organic and locally is more expensive, it is so good for our local economy.  Not to mention tastier and healthier.

We do the Farmer's market especially more so in the spring/summer and really only buy grass fed beef and locally raised chicken these days.  It is much easier with a family of two and living in No. Cal, with great produce year round.  I think much harder financially for a family of 4 or more!  Kudos to making great choices! 

 

We try to buy organic chicken, fruits and vegs.  We're buying a beef this month w/ a couple friends and it will be raised on another friend's property until Oct.  When all is said and done, we should end up w/ a couple hundred pounds of clean beef for about $2/lb.  Leaner and tastier than the corn and antibiotic fed stuff you get in the stores.

We didn't worry about organic before we had kids, but not wanting to feed them garbage and chemicals changed that.  I can taste test many fruits and vegs now and tell you which are organic and which aren't.  Broccoli, bananas, cucumbers, carrots - huge difference in taste.

We've looked at the CSA's, but they seem to contain a lot of stuff we wouldn't/couldn't eat that much of and Kyla's dog lives too far away to feed it to him.

2011-04-14 5:52 PM
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I do not pay attention to cadence. I watch speed and power.
2011-04-14 5:53 PM
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Interesting article about not going all out on the swim and thereby going faster over all in a triathlon:

http://triathlon.competitor.com/2011/03/training/faster-swim-times-may-not-lead-to-faster-finish-times_24498

 

Doug

2011-04-14 5:58 PM
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SoccerGK - 2011-04-14 12:58 PM
fowlmood - 2011-04-14 2:19 PM

Have you ever noticed that the health industry keeps promoting better nutrition but the prices are double to triple the cost of junk food.

Yes.  It's been an ongoing concern across the country for a lot of years, and it is one of the reasons why there is a higher obesity rate in lower income households.  Unhealthy food is often processed and has a longer shelf life, which makes the cost to produce them far less than healthier foods that have a limited shelf life and limited availability in time and geography. 

Ryan eats unhealthily and can buy his food for a week for about $30.  I cost about $70.

Don't get me started... food is something I am extremely passionate about and I strive to provide good nutrition for my family, support local farmers, make good choices for myself, etc. Oh, I dream more about this more than it's a reality: My kids are the pickiest eaters ever (what kids don't eat pasta?) and my husband is a self-proclaimed veggie-hater. But that doesn't stop me. If they won't eat the fabulous food I push, at least I do my best to educate them about the crap they choose to eat and the choices they choose to make. Good food costs more because it is not government-subsidized and filled with corn- and soy-based additives. Raising a cow on grass costs more and requires much more space than raising it on corn feed. Processing a cow one at a time, humanely and using high standards costs more than what goes on at the huge slauterhouses.

IMO, the single-best thing I do for my family and my enviornment is to support local CSAs. I've been buying local produce for 3 or 4 years. Do I love everything I get? No. But I have learned a ton about vegetables! I, too, had never eaten a turnip or a parsnip. Now I have all sorts of ways to prepare them and love when they appear in my veggie box. I am constantly overwhelmed by greens (chard, kale) because no matter how I prepare them my husband doesn't really care for them (he eats one serving at dinner because he knows it's good for him!) -- but there's only so many greens a gal can eat day in and day out, ha!! But I don't give up. And when all else fails, I'll just puree a batch of kale and feed it to my dog (yes, he eats a raw diet -- no processed food for him!).

If anyone finds school nutrition an interesting topic, tune into Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution. It's an awesome show. My kids love it, too. Jamie Oliver is trying to revamp school food and is currently tackling the LA school district, and meeting with tons of resistance. But he is persistent and I can't wait to see how it all ends up.

Off my soap box. But I love to talk about and learn about food (and I love to eat it, too!!).

Need to go drink a bunch of water and head to PT!

Kyla, I LOVE Jamie Oliver!!!



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kt65 - 2011-04-14 6:03 PM 

CAN WE STAY ON TOPIC, Please????   

I thought we were on a topic?  Hahahaha  

I'm really liking this MG so far!

Ok, I'll ask a serious question.  What cadence are you all spinning when you're training?  I have a tri bike and I've been trying to stay around 85-90.  Does that sound about right?

Jayne!  i think you were the one that STARTED it!!! 

Okay, so serious answer...I like 85-90, too.  And I think it is because at that cadence, no matter the power, my pedal stroke feels really good and I can maintain it without killing myself.  80 and less I usually am working either not hard enough if the gear is too easy or too hard if the gear is too hard, does that make any sense?  Too high, like 95 or more and I am bouncing too much. 

That said, sometimes it is good to train higher cadence for technique and sometimes good to train force (harder gear and lower cadence)--I think this helps build our cycling muscles.  But for out on the roads, usually I like 85-90, if I'm on a steep hill then easiest gear to get me up and who cares what cadence anything over 50 so I don't topple over!!!

It's a pretty individual thing, but I find that it matches well with my foot cadence for running so it feels very natural to get off the bike and start running with my 90 foot cadence.

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DougRob - 2011-04-14 3:53 PM

Interesting article about not going all out on the swim and thereby going faster over all in a triathlon:

http://triathlon.competitor.com/2011/03/training/faster-swim-times-may-not-lead-to-faster-finish-times_24498

 

Doug

I KNEW there was a reason I swim so slow! 

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kt65 - 2011-04-14 3:03 PM

CAN WE STAY ON TOPIC, Please???? 

You bring up such good points, Kyla!  What a great philosophy...while eating organic and locally is more expensive, it is so good for our local economy.  Not to mention tastier and healthier.

We do the Farmer's market especially more so in the spring/summer and really only buy grass fed beef and locally raised chicken these days.  It is much easier with a family of two and living in No. Cal, with great produce year round.  I think much harder financially for a family of 4 or more!  Kudos to making great choices! 

 

We try to buy organic chicken, fruits and vegs.  We're buying a beef this month w/ a couple friends and it will be raised on another friend's property until Oct.  When all is said and done, we should end up w/ a couple hundred pounds of clean beef for about $2/lb.  Leaner and tastier than the corn and antibiotic fed stuff you get in the stores.

We didn't worry about organic before we had kids, but not wanting to feed them garbage and chemicals changed that.  I can taste test many fruits and vegs now and tell you which are organic and which aren't.  Broccoli, bananas, cucumbers, carrots - huge difference in taste.

We've looked at the CSA's, but they seem to contain a lot of stuff we wouldn't/couldn't eat that much of and Kyla's dog lives too far away to feed it to him.

Yup, being a parent is what really helped open my eyes. I will say living where I do I have become much more educated -- Seattle's green (in all aspects!) reputation did not happen by accident. 

And yeah, Matt, that is the hard part about CSAs is finding enough palatable veggies to eat. I used to eat the basics -- broccoli, cauli, asparagus, spinach... the CSA has broadened my horizons for sure. But there are thing we just can't/don't use (burdock root, anyone? still haven't had the balls to try that stuff! ha!). Good for you for making good choices for your family!!

I also try to practice what I preach to my kids: Everything in moderation, and balance over time. We eat pizza. The kids get McDonald's (gasp!) from time to time (Dave too, ha!). I love dessert (but homemade is best!). If you try to make good choices most of the time, the few times you choose not to aren't a big deal, IMO. 

I'm getting sick of rain.

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kt65 - 2011-04-14 6:03 PM 

CAN WE STAY ON TOPIC, Please????   

I thought we were on a topic?  Hahahaha  

I'm really liking this MG so far!

Ok, I'll ask a serious question.  What cadence are you all spinning when you're training?  I have a tri bike and I've been trying to stay around 85-90.  Does that sound about right?

Jayne!  i think you were the one that STARTED it!!! 

Okay, so serious answer...I like 85-90, too.  And I think it is because at that cadence, no matter the power, my pedal stroke feels really good and I can maintain it without killing myself.  80 and less I usually am working either not hard enough if the gear is too easy or too hard if the gear is too hard, does that make any sense?  Too high, like 95 or more and I am bouncing too much. 

That said, sometimes it is good to train higher cadence for technique and sometimes good to train force (harder gear and lower cadence)--I think this helps build our cycling muscles.  But for out on the roads, usually I like 85-90, if I'm on a steep hill then easiest gear to get me up and who cares what cadence anything over 50 so I don't topple over!!!

It's a pretty individual thing, but I find that it matches well with my foot cadence for running so it feels very natural to get off the bike and start running with my 90 foot cadence.

x2. My cadence was much slower when I started cycling/spinning, but I've worked to aim for a 90 average over the past few years. I do find that on long efforts (2+ hours) my cadence drifts downward over time. In fact, today, at the end of my 3-hour ride that was all I worked on, was trying to keep a 90 cadence. I was warming down anyway, so kept making it easier, but I really had to focus to keep the cadence up. Gave me something to work on so I didn't slack off the last :30 or so. 

But I agree with Kim, that it's an individual thing. Do I remember reading that Chrisie Wellington tends to ride at a lower cadence than most pros (or am I making this up)? It certainly isn't hurting her! There is that sweet spot where it just feels right, and that's where you should be!!

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