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 2014-07-24 7:57 AM in reply to: 0 |
Master  3022  |  Subject: RE: Consistency Equals SuccessJim, Gabe and Jackie - Thanks for the analysis/thoughts/comments. Leaning towards yes. Will have to be real honest in getting my swims in. I have an upcoming camping trip to Muskoka Canada that will allow me the opportunity for at least 2 nice long open swims. This morning - 1:45:00 on the bike in the basement. B O R I N G. Mitch 23 27:15:19 Gabe 20 27:21:05 Jackie 20 30:15:37 Jim 18 22:15:01 Lisa 16 20:50:50 Dennis 14 16:31:00 Barry 11 09:53:16 Mark Z 09 12:55:00 Brian 07 05:10:00 Mark H 09 07:00:00 Edited by trisuppo 2014-07-24 7:58 AM |
| 2014-07-24 8:26 AM in reply to: trisuppo |
Expert 2811  | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Originally posted by trisuppo Jim, Gabe and Jackie - Thanks for the analysis/thoughts/comments. Leaning towards yes. Will have to be real honest in getting my swims in. I have an upcoming camping trip to Muskoka Canada that will allow me the opportunity for at least 2 nice long open swims. Muskoka will be a good place to practice OWS, especially if you can swim in the Georgian Bay at least once to swim. You are a little further North than us, it looks like it is about equal to Alpena. It should give you a good frame of reference on water temp. The inland lakes and Lake St. Clair are a lot warmer that Huron and Michigan are right now (3 weeks ago the mean temp of the 2 lakes was 48F, which is why we have had such a cool summer). Shore temps around here have fluctuated between high 50's and low 60's. Its a shock the first time you hit the water, after that it become like testing a hot pan before you grab. The issue is swimming long in it and having that realization that as you swim your body warms up and its not that bad. The same as running in the cold. Jackie is right, physically you have the training to do this, its all psychological. If you pull the trigger, I will give you the inside info on the bike course, so you will know how to attack it, beat most other riders and still have fresh legs at the end. It is just a matter of picking the right spots to be aggressive. My swim always stinks, but I make up for it on the bike and hold my own on the run. |
| 2014-07-24 9:33 AM in reply to: JBacarella |
Master 3022 | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Originally posted by JBacarella Originally posted by trisuppo Jim, Gabe and Jackie - Thanks for the analysis/thoughts/comments. Leaning towards yes. Will have to be real honest in getting my swims in. I have an upcoming camping trip to Muskoka Canada that will allow me the opportunity for at least 2 nice long open swims. Muskoka will be a good place to practice OWS, especially if you can swim in the Georgian Bay at least once to swim. You are a little further North than us, it looks like it is about equal to Alpena. It should give you a good frame of reference on water temp. The inland lakes and Lake St. Clair are a lot warmer that Huron and Michigan are right now (3 weeks ago the mean temp of the 2 lakes was 48F, which is why we have had such a cool summer). Shore temps around here have fluctuated between high 50's and low 60's. Its a shock the first time you hit the water, after that it become like testing a hot pan before you grab. The issue is swimming long in it and having that realization that as you swim your body warms up and its not that bad. The same as running in the cold. Jackie is right, physically you have the training to do this, its all psychological. If you pull the trigger, I will give you the inside info on the bike course, so you will know how to attack it, beat most other riders and still have fresh legs at the end. It is just a matter of picking the right spots to be aggressive. My swim always stinks, but I make up for it on the bike and hold my own on the run. Thanks for all the gouge (in my Navy days I learned an "ounce of gouge is worth a pound of knowledge"). If I race I'll be coming up with a close friend who will also be racing. No wives. Just two 40 somethings trying to convince themselves that we're not getting older.He's done a couple ironmen and a 50 mile ultra. His training is a bit behind mine though. |
| 2014-07-24 11:24 AM in reply to: trisuppo |
Expert 1255  Philadelphia, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Mitch 23 27:15:19 Gabe 20 27:21:05 Jackie 21 31:30:45 Jim 18 22:15:01 Lisa 16 20:50:50 Dennis 14 16:31:00 Barry 11 09:53:16 Mark Z 09 12:55:00 Brian 07 05:10:00 Mark H 09 07:00:00 Mitch, I can't remember and I couldn't tell from your logs, how many Olympic distance tris have you done? |
| 2014-07-24 12:14 PM in reply to: 0 |
Veteran 419 clayton | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success easy trainer spin tis morning. Mitch 23 27:15:19 Gabe 20 27:21:05 Jackie 21 31:30:45 Jim 18 22:15:01 Lisa 16 20:50:50 Dennis 14 16:31:00 Barry 11 09:53:16 Mark Z 09 12:55:00 Brian 07 05:10:00 Mark H 10 08:00:00 Mitch - apart from the sound advice from Jackie, Gabe and Jim here's my additional input - change your goal form "sub six hrs' to "complete the swim by hell-or-highwater, then complete the bike and run by time specific goal". Meaning take the pressure and high expectation off the swim - you know you can do it regardless of swimming freestyle all the way or several breaks using other strokes and the occasional kayak if needed. now go sign up. Mark. Edited by markhodges1973 2014-07-24 12:20 PM |
| 2014-07-24 1:14 PM in reply to: markhodges1973 |
Master 3022 | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Originally posted by markhodges1973 Mitch - apart from the sound advice from Jackie, Gabe and Jim here's my additional input - change your goal form "sub six hrs' to "complete the swim by hell-or-highwater, then complete the bike and run by time specific goal". Meaning take the pressure and high expectation off the swim - you know you can do it regardless of swimming freestyle all the way or several breaks using other strokes and the occasional kayak if needed. now go sign up. Mark. Mark - great advice and I love the approach. |
| 2014-07-24 5:38 PM in reply to: markhodges1973 |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success 1:05:17 on the bike for 20.2 miles Mitch 23 27:15:19 Gabe 20 27:21:05 Jackie 21 31:30:45 Jim 19 23:20:18 Lisa 16 20:50:50 Dennis 14 16:31:00 Barry 11 09:53:16 Mark Z 09 12:55:00 Brian 07 05:10:00 Mark H 10 08:00:00 |
| 2014-07-24 6:18 PM in reply to: JBacarella |
Expert 1109 Guatemala | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Joe, how are you and how is your recovery going? Today 1hr drainer Mitch 23 27:15:19 |
| 2014-07-24 6:49 PM in reply to: trigabe |
| 33 | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success 38' 5.2 mile run at lunch. Just getting back into it after my ~2 weeks off, and am a little discouraged because I have felt very out of shape on my first few workouts. Mitch 23 27:15:19 Jackie 21 31:30:45 Gabe 21 28:21:35 Jim 19 23:20:18 Lisa 16 20:50:50 Dennis 14 16:31:00 Barry 11 09:53:16 Mark Z 09 12:55:00 Brian 08 05:48:00 Mark H 10 08:00:00 |
| 2014-07-24 7:03 PM in reply to: 0 |
Master 3022 | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Originally posted by jackiep Mitch, I can't remember and I couldn't tell from your logs, how many Olympic distance tris have you done? Zero. Seeing as the HIM swim is just incrementally longer I figured i'd just jump in with two feet to long course racing. Edited by trisuppo 2014-07-24 7:05 PM |
| 2014-07-24 7:42 PM in reply to: itsbs2 |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Originally posted by itsbs2 38' 5.2 mile run at lunch. Just getting back into it after my ~2 weeks off, and am a little discouraged because I have felt very out of shape on my first few workouts. Brian- its not a loss of fitness, its the evil little voice that tells you its too hard, the distance is too far, you are too fat, you lost all of your fitness. Two weeks off is not enough time off to lose fitness. It takes 3-4 weeks for you to lose any measurable fitness. Your muscles are well rested with 2 weeks off and you have more in you than you think. Just keep pushing through and don't let the demons win. The workout that you don't want to do is the workout you have to do. |
| 2014-07-24 7:45 PM in reply to: trisuppo |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Originally posted by trisuppo Originally posted by jackiep Mitch, I can't remember and I couldn't tell from your logs, how many Olympic distance tris have you done? Zero. Seeing as the HIM swim is just incrementally longer I figured i'd just jump in with two feet to long course racing. If swimming is your weakness, then HIM is a better distance for you. The Oly bike and run are too short for me to catch up with the good swimmers. I am still going to do one next week as a tune up for my HIM |
| 2014-07-25 12:17 PM in reply to: itsbs2 |
Master 3022 | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Another mile+ swim at lunch Mitch 24 27:58:15 Jackie 21 31:30:45 Gabe 21 28:21:35 Jim 19 23:20:18 Lisa 16 20:50:50 Dennis 14 16:31:00 Barry 11 09:53:16 Mark Z 09 12:55:00 Brian 08 05:48:00 Mark H 10 08:00:00 |
| 2014-07-25 12:22 PM in reply to: trisuppo |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success 1600 yards OWS at lunch. 35:24 Mitch- When you go to Canada bring ear plugs to swim in the Lake, if not the cold water will make you nauseous. I like the moldable wax kind you find at the pharmacy. Mitch 24 27:58:15 Jackie 21 31:30:45 Gabe 21 28:21:35 Jim 20 23:55:42 Lisa 16 20:50:50 Dennis 14 16:31:00 Barry 11 09:53:16 Mark Z 09 12:55:00 Brian 08 05:48:00 Mark H 10 08:00:00 |
| 2014-07-25 8:12 PM in reply to: JBacarella |
Master 1609 Gold Coast Australia. | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success 2hr bike ride and 5k Parkrun (23:50) this morning. Mitch 24 27:58:15 Jackie 21 31:30:45 Gabe 21 28:21:35 Jim 20 23:55:42 Lisa 16 20:50:50 Dennis 14 16:31:00 Barry 11 09:23:16 Mark Z 10 15:55:00 Brian 08 05:48:00 Mark H 10 08:00:00 |
| 2014-07-25 8:24 PM in reply to: markz |
Expert 1109 Guatemala | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Good job Mark, funny for me to see that you got your Saturday workouts in already! Ever since my knee injury in December, I had not been to the track until today to do a 5k test. As expected, I have lost my running speed/fitness and struggled to push through my test which I finished in 22:59. On top of that, I'm having trouble breathing during intense workouts which I think could be related to allergies/virus. Will need to find out and work a lot more on speed workouts going forward Mitch 24 27:58:15 |
| 2014-07-26 7:45 AM in reply to: trigabe |
Master 3022 | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success 6 miles running last night and 2 hrs 15 minutes on the bike this morning. Mitch 25 31:12:30 Jackie 21 31:30:45 Gabe 22 29:11:35 Jim 20 23:55:42 Lisa 16 20:50:50 Dennis 14 16:31:00 Barry 11 09:23:16 Mark Z 10 15:55:00 Brian 08 05:48:00 Mark H 10 08:00:00 |
| 2014-07-26 10:32 AM in reply to: trisuppo |
| 353 Conroe, Texas | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Updating my workouts on the challenge for the week. I've been kind of bummed out this week due to a hip injury I got over the weekend. I limited my self to swim and strength workouts this week in hopes of the hip feeling better before next weekends Triathlon. Tomorrow is the swim, run and transition clinic for my first tri and I'm planning on attending the swim and transition clinic but I'm not running. I really wanted to be 100% on my first tri and I almost made it. I've been training since March and this is my first injury to have to deal with, but holding out hope it will be better before the event. Mitch 25 31:12:30 Jackie 21 31:30:45 Gabe 22 29:11:35 Jim 20 23:55:42 Lisa 16 20:50:50 Dennis 19 23:16:00 Barry 11 09:23:16 Mark Z 10 15:55:00 Brian 08 05:48:00 Mark H 10 08:00:00 |
| 2014-07-26 12:46 PM in reply to: sawyer1206 |
| 33 | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Jim- Thanks for the advice! Work is crazy and I am gone on another business trip so will be limited to running and stationary bike workouts until the middle of August. Adding yesterdays 5.7 mile run for 44 minutes. Mitch 25 31:12:30 Jackie 21 31:30:45 Gabe 22 29:11:35 Jim 20 23:55:42 Lisa 16 20:50:50 Dennis 19 23:16:00 Barry 11 09:23:16 Mark Z 10 15:55:00 Brian 09 06:32:00 Mark H 10 08:00:00 |
| 2014-07-26 3:01 PM in reply to: itsbs2 |
Master 1609 Gold Coast Australia. | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Gabe, the international date line puzzles me when I think about it.  |
| 2014-07-26 6:09 PM in reply to: markz |
Veteran 445 Chicago, Illinois | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success 14.5 mile bike last evening Mitch 25 31:12:30 Jackie 21 31:30:45 Gabe 22 29:11:35 Jim 20 23:55:42 Lisa 16 20:50:50 Dennis 19 23:16:00 Barry 12 10:25:20 Mark Z 10 15:55:00 Brian 09 06:32:00 Mark H 10 08:00:00 |
| 2014-07-26 8:04 PM in reply to: baurryman |
Expert 1255 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Mitch 25 31:12:30 Jackie 23 37:51:10 Gabe 22 29:11:35 Jim 20 23:55:42 Lisa 16 20:50:50 Dennis 19 23:16:00 Barry 12 10:25:20 Mark Z 10 15:55:00 Brian 09 06:32:00 Mark H 10 08:00:00 Mitch, you don't have to do Olys first. Just curious. I like what Jim said about the distance. Dennis, hoping for quick recovery for you. Brian, work or life always seems to interfere. That's what makes this sport such a challenge. Gabe, hope you find a race to do soon ;-) Mark H, I'm looking at doing Beach to Battleship. |
| 2014-07-26 10:34 PM in reply to: jackiep |
Expert 1109 Guatemala | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Good job with your workout Jackie, did you just do the Badwater Ultra ;-) (actually a Guatemalan friend finished 6th overall in Badwater last weekend) Today 1hr drainer + 7 mile run Mitch 25 31:12:30 |
| 2014-07-27 1:50 AM in reply to: 0 |
Master 1609 Gold Coast Australia. | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success 2hrs of pool fun this morning with my daughter, but realistically I logged 30min (approximate swimming time) and 1.5he bike ride. Mitch 25 31:12:30 Jackie 23 37:51:10 Gabe 23 31:13:35 Jim 20 23:55:42 Lisa 16 20:50:50 Dennis 19 23:16:00 Barry 12 10:25:20 Mark Z 11 17:55:00 Brian 09 06:32:00 Mark H 10 08:00:00 Gabe, looks like you are also slowly entering the world of ultras... OMG, hat off to all of the competitors and congrats to your friend!!! Edited by markz 2014-07-27 1:55 AM |
| 2014-07-27 12:49 PM in reply to: markz |
| 33 | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success 4 mile fun run for 32' Mitch 25 31:12:30 Jackie 23 37:51:10 Gabe 23 31:13:35 Jim 20 23:55:42 Lisa 16 20:50:50 Dennis 19 23:16:00 Barry 12 10:25:20 Mark Z 11 17:55:00 Brian 10 07:04:00 Mark H 10 08:00:00 |
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