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2011-05-23 9:52 PM in reply to: #3514318 |
Extreme Veteran 1005 Sykesville | Subject: RE: BamaDC's Mentor Group v4.0 - Closed titeloops - 2011-05-23 3:46 PMTried to run yesterday after a 10 day layoff. Lots of foam roller, and work with PT. Made it about 25 minutes before the IT band started to seize up. Funny how its knee pain. Anyway, I think this is a sign from the Tri Gods that I should become a fish for the next month. Thats where I suck anyway, so this is gonna force me to swim more. Maybe next year I'll jump on that bridge swim with you guys. Really impressd with yawls results! FWIW I think that is normal with ITB issues. The don't hurt at first but after a while the rubbing/strain builds up. Take easy and head to the pool. |
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2011-05-23 11:06 PM in reply to: #3514095 |
Master 2372 | Subject: RE: BamaDC's Mentor Group v4.0 - Closed BamaDC - 2011-05-23 1:20 PM sand101 - 2011-05-22 6:50 PM Race report. LostSheep also raced - I'm sure he'll detail his soon. Here is the race trace. Ignore the mileage and elevation - the GPS bounces around in the water.
Congrats on the win! Are you going back next year?
I'm a glutton for punishment, so probably yes. |
2011-05-24 6:39 AM in reply to: #3512771 |
Extreme Veteran 1005 Sykesville | Subject: RE: BamaDC's Mentor Group v4.0 - Closed |
2011-05-24 8:43 AM in reply to: #3514318 |
Master 2301 Rogersville, Alabama | Subject: RE: BamaDC's Mentor Group v4.0 - Closed titeloops - 2011-05-23 2:46 PM Tried to run yesterday after a 10 day layoff. Lots of foam roller, and work with PT. Made it about 25 minutes before the IT band started to seize up. Funny how its knee pain. Anyway, I think this is a sign from the Tri Gods that I should become a fish for the next month. Thats where I suck anyway, so this is gonna force me to swim more. Maybe next year I'll jump on that bridge swim with you guys. Really impressd with yawls results! I feel your pain. My left IT band was popping like crazy yesterday. Ice, Stretching, Foam Roller and NSAIDS for me.
I'm also thinking about the bridge swim. But I'd like to do Gulf Coast, I can't take too trips that close to the gulf. |
2011-05-24 11:51 AM in reply to: #3514306 |
Member 76 Apex, NC | Subject: RE: BamaDC's Mentor Group v4.0 - Closed Can't do evening rides - I ride with Margot's B group on Friday AMs at ISOS. Cannot currently keep pace with the A group - they're wicked fast! Fun to watch though. Thanks for the suggestions. Switching to HR training for a while and see how that feels... |
2011-05-24 2:50 PM in reply to: #3515295 |
Expert 1066 Raleigh | Subject: RE: BamaDC's Mentor Group v4.0 - Closed |
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2011-05-24 5:01 PM in reply to: #3516477 |
Extreme Veteran 1005 Sykesville | Subject: RE: BamaDC's Mentor Group v4.0 - Closed Thanks, but I'm actually kinda bummed out by my performance. My training wasn't where I wanted to be and I had problems on the run (because of my fitness) but when I look back of my past races I'm starting to see a pattern. Granted I've only done three race but I'm starting to think I need to focus a lot more on my running. Anybody have an I idea how I figure that out? Mark, I remember you saying that you came to a similar conclusion at one point. Who did you decide that running was your limiter? |
2011-05-24 7:19 PM in reply to: #3516762 |
Master 2301 Rogersville, Alabama | Subject: RE: BamaDC's Mentor Group v4.0 - Closed cornfed - 2011-05-24 5:01 PM Thanks, but I'm actually kinda bummed out by my performance. My training wasn't where I wanted to be and I had problems on the run (because of my fitness) but when I look back of my past races I'm starting to see a pattern. Granted I've only done three race but I'm starting to think I need to focus a lot more on my running. Anybody have an I idea how I figure that out? Mark, I remember you saying that you came to a similar conclusion at one point. Who did you decide that running was your limiter? Did you ride too hard? Go out too hard the first of the run? You could also benefit from some more volume. |
2011-05-24 8:21 PM in reply to: #3516917 |
Extreme Veteran 1005 Sykesville | Subject: RE: BamaDC's Mentor Group v4.0 - Closed BamaDC - 2011-05-24 8:19 PM I probably rode too hard (240 ave, 271 NP which is my ftp) but looking at all my races running appears to be my weakness. I dfinatley could use some more volume but I normally shy away from more running because I like running and don't want to fall into the trap of training my favorite discipline if it doesn't need it. I'm thinking of switching to a run focus program. What do you think? cornfed - 2011-05-24 5:01 PM Thanks, but I'm actually kinda bummed out by my performance. My training wasn't where I wanted to be and I had problems on the run (because of my fitness) but when I look back of my past races I'm starting to see a pattern. Granted I've only done three race but I'm starting to think I need to focus a lot more on my running. Anybody have an I idea how I figure that out? Mark, I remember you saying that you came to a similar conclusion at one point. Who did you decide that running was your limiter? Did you ride too hard? Go out too hard the first of the run? You could also benefit from some more volume. |
2011-05-25 7:55 AM in reply to: #3517009 |
Expert 1310 Alabama | Subject: RE: BamaDC's Mentor Group v4.0 - Closed cornfed - 2011-05-24 8:21 PM BamaDC - 2011-05-24 8:19 PM I probably rode too hard (240 ave, 271 NP which is my ftp) but looking at all my races running appears to be my weakness. I dfinatley could use some more volume but I normally shy away from more running because I like running and don't want to fall into the trap of training my favorite discipline if it doesn't need it. I'm thinking of switching to a run focus program. What do you think? cornfed - 2011-05-24 5:01 PM Thanks, but I'm actually kinda bummed out by my performance. My training wasn't where I wanted to be and I had problems on the run (because of my fitness) but when I look back of my past races I'm starting to see a pattern. Granted I've only done three race but I'm starting to think I need to focus a lot more on my running. Anybody have an I idea how I figure that out? Mark, I remember you saying that you came to a similar conclusion at one point. Who did you decide that running was your limiter? Did you ride too hard? Go out too hard the first of the run? You could also benefit from some more volume. Looking at your logs, (my limited opinion here), it could be a combination of both bike and run fitness. Looks like you may have pushed to hard on the bike, which will cause a blow up on the run. I learned that one the hard way in all my races, until this past weekend when I paced the bike and had a good nutrition plan, stayed within my watt range and had a good run (might have PR'd the 10k, which is huge for me). I think I've seen most of my run gains, simply by putting in more biking time the past 7-8 weeks and losing a bit of weight. My times have improved by about 30 sec/mile. You might need to up your bike mileage, which will help aerobically on the run. It also looks like you could keep a bit more run volume weekly, trying to stay in the 20-25 mile range. It's hard to fit it all in. You may also want review your nutrition, and make sure it's working to your advantage. Just a couple of thoughts. I'm no expert though, just what I've seen the past few weeks with myself. |
2011-05-25 12:52 PM in reply to: #3517491 |
Extreme Veteran 1005 Sykesville | Subject: RE: BamaDC's Mentor Group v4.0 - Closed pilotzs - 2011-05-25 8:55 AM cornfed - 2011-05-24 8:21 PM BamaDC - 2011-05-24 8:19 PM I probably rode too hard (240 ave, 271 NP which is my ftp) but looking at all my races running appears to be my weakness. I dfinatley could use some more volume but I normally shy away from more running because I like running and don't want to fall into the trap of training my favorite discipline if it doesn't need it. I'm thinking of switching to a run focus program. What do you think? cornfed - 2011-05-24 5:01 PM Thanks, but I'm actually kinda bummed out by my performance. My training wasn't where I wanted to be and I had problems on the run (because of my fitness) but when I look back of my past races I'm starting to see a pattern. Granted I've only done three race but I'm starting to think I need to focus a lot more on my running. Anybody have an I idea how I figure that out? Mark, I remember you saying that you came to a similar conclusion at one point. Who did you decide that running was your limiter? Did you ride too hard? Go out too hard the first of the run? You could also benefit from some more volume. Looking at your logs, (my limited opinion here), it could be a combination of both bike and run fitness. Looks like you may have pushed to hard on the bike, which will cause a blow up on the run. I learned that one the hard way in all my races, until this past weekend when I paced the bike and had a good nutrition plan, stayed within my watt range and had a good run (might have PR'd the 10k, which is huge for me). I think I've seen most of my run gains, simply by putting in more biking time the past 7-8 weeks and losing a bit of weight. My times have improved by about 30 sec/mile. You might need to up your bike mileage, which will help aerobically on the run. It also looks like you could keep a bit more run volume weekly, trying to stay in the 20-25 mile range. It's hard to fit it all in. You may also want review your nutrition, and make sure it's working to your advantage. Just a couple of thoughts. I'm no expert though, just what I've seen the past few weeks with myself. My run volume is definately way down from where I would like it and I did go hearder on the bike than I would have like. However, I had similar (but not as drastic) results last fall with higher run volume and better paced bike leg. I definately fell like I run much better when I'm doing 20-25 miles a week but looking at my longs I've had trouble trouble doing that will tri training. |
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2011-05-25 4:04 PM in reply to: #3434029 |
Master 2327 North Alabama | Subject: RE: BamaDC's Mentor Group v4.0 - Closed I bilateral breathe. I just do. In this case, I should've been sighting right. I missed some good scenery. |
2011-05-25 4:47 PM in reply to: #3434029 |
Master 2327 North Alabama | Subject: RE: BamaDC's Mentor Group v4.0 - Closed Can you spot the triathletes? Sorry Sands, I couldn't resist. I actually wore my 310xt, so I'm just as guilty... |
2011-05-25 4:52 PM in reply to: #3517009 |
Master 2372 | Subject: RE: BamaDC's Mentor Group v4.0 - Closed cornfed - 2011-05-24 8:21 PM I probably rode too hard (240 ave, 271 NP which is my ftp) but looking at all my races running appears to be my weakness. I dfinatley could use some more volume but I normally shy away from more running because I like running and don't want to fall into the trap of training my favorite discipline if it doesn't need it. I'm thinking of switching to a run focus program. What do you think? I want to ask another question entirely here. How in the world can you put out 240w and only go 19.5mph? You should easily be 23+ and I'd argue that unless it was really, really hilly you should be tapping 24. |
2011-05-25 4:53 PM in reply to: #3518876 |
Master 2372 | Subject: RE: BamaDC's Mentor Group v4.0 - Closed LostSheep - 2011-05-25 4:47 PM Sorry Sands, I couldn't resist. I actually wore my 310xt, so I'm just as guilty... Please tell me you got pics of the Auburn chicks... |
2011-05-25 5:01 PM in reply to: #3518890 |
Master 2327 North Alabama | Subject: RE: BamaDC's Mentor Group v4.0 - Closed sand101 - 2011-05-25 4:53 PM LostSheep - 2011-05-25 4:47 PM Sorry Sands, I couldn't resist. I actually wore my 310xt, so I'm just as guilty... Please tell me you got pics of the Auburn chicks... yes. |
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2011-05-25 6:58 PM in reply to: #3518887 |
Expert 1066 Raleigh | Subject: RE: BamaDC's Mentor Group v4.0 - Closed sand101 - 2011-05-25 4:52 PM He weighs 400 lbs. cornfed - 2011-05-24 8:21 PM I probably rode too hard (240 ave, 271 NP which is my ftp) but looking at all my races running appears to be my weakness. I dfinatley could use some more volume but I normally shy away from more running because I like running and don't want to fall into the trap of training my favorite discipline if it doesn't need it. I'm thinking of switching to a run focus program. What do you think? I want to ask another question entirely here. How in the world can you put out 240w and only go 19.5mph? You should easily be 23+ and I'd argue that unless it was really, really hilly you should be tapping 24. |
2011-05-25 6:59 PM in reply to: #3518905 |
Expert 1066 Raleigh | Subject: RE: BamaDC's Mentor Group v4.0 - Closed LostSheep - 2011-05-25 5:01 PM Don't be holding out on us. Post em!sand101 - 2011-05-25 4:53 PM LostSheep - 2011-05-25 4:47 PM Sorry Sands, I couldn't resist. I actually wore my 310xt, so I'm just as guilty... Please tell me you got pics of the Auburn chicks... yes. |
2011-05-25 8:05 PM in reply to: #3519027 |
Master 2327 North Alabama | Subject: RE: BamaDC's Mentor Group v4.0 - Closed titeloops - 2011-05-25 6:59 PM LostSheep - 2011-05-25 5:01 PM Don't be holding out on us. Post em!sand101 - 2011-05-25 4:53 PM LostSheep - 2011-05-25 4:47 PM Sorry Sands, I couldn't resist. I actually wore my 310xt, so I'm just as guilty... Please tell me you got pics of the Auburn chicks... yes. Left side. Blue suits. middle |
2011-05-25 8:54 PM in reply to: #3519025 |
Extreme Veteran 1005 Sykesville | Subject: RE: BamaDC's Mentor Group v4.0 - Closed titeloops - 2011-05-25 7:58 PM sand101 - 2011-05-25 4:52 PM He weighs 400 lbs. cornfed - 2011-05-24 8:21 PM I probably rode too hard (240 ave, 271 NP which is my ftp) but looking at all my races running appears to be my weakness. I dfinatley could use some more volume but I normally shy away from more running because I like running and don't want to fall into the trap of training my favorite discipline if it doesn't need it. I'm thinking of switching to a run focus program. What do you think? I want to ask another question entirely here. How in the world can you put out 240w and only go 19.5mph? You should easily be 23+ and I'd argue that unless it was really, really hilly you should be tapping 24. Close, but only 210 lbs. It was pretty hill, here's my Garmin file http://connect.garmin.com/activity/87498564 And I'm on a road bike but I don't know how much of a difference that makes. Edited by cornfed 2011-05-25 8:56 PM |
2011-05-25 9:52 PM in reply to: #3519163 |
Master 2372 | Subject: RE: BamaDC's Mentor Group v4.0 - Closed cornfed - 2011-05-25 8:54 PM titeloops - 2011-05-25 7:58 PM sand101 - 2011-05-25 4:52 PM He weighs 400 lbs. cornfed - 2011-05-24 8:21 PM I probably rode too hard (240 ave, 271 NP which is my ftp) but looking at all my races running appears to be my weakness. I dfinatley could use some more volume but I normally shy away from more running because I like running and don't want to fall into the trap of training my favorite discipline if it doesn't need it. I'm thinking of switching to a run focus program. What do you think? I want to ask another question entirely here. How in the world can you put out 240w and only go 19.5mph? You should easily be 23+ and I'd argue that unless it was really, really hilly you should be tapping 24. Close, but only 210 lbs. It was pretty hill, here's my Garmin file http://connect.garmin.com/activity/87498564 And I'm on a road bike but I don't know how much of a difference that makes. Depends. You can get most of the way on a road bike that you can on a TT bike. But if you are sitting up on the hoods on a road bike the whole way I can see the sub 20mph. On a TT setup you are probably 10+ minutes faster. |
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2011-05-26 4:48 AM in reply to: #3519246 |
Extreme Veteran 1005 Sykesville | Subject: RE: BamaDC's Mentor Group v4.0 - Closed sand101 - 2011-05-25 10:52 PM cornfed - 2011-05-25 8:54 PM titeloops - 2011-05-25 7:58 PM sand101 - 2011-05-25 4:52 PM He weighs 400 lbs. cornfed - 2011-05-24 8:21 PM I probably rode too hard (240 ave, 271 NP which is my ftp) but looking at all my races running appears to be my weakness. I dfinatley could use some more volume but I normally shy away from more running because I like running and don't want to fall into the trap of training my favorite discipline if it doesn't need it. I'm thinking of switching to a run focus program. What do you think? I want to ask another question entirely here. How in the world can you put out 240w and only go 19.5mph? You should easily be 23+ and I'd argue that unless it was really, really hilly you should be tapping 24. Close, but only 210 lbs. It was pretty hill, here's my Garmin file http://connect.garmin.com/activity/87498564 And I'm on a road bike but I don't know how much of a difference that makes. Depends. You can get most of the way on a road bike that you can on a TT bike. But if you are sitting up on the hoods on a road bike the whole way I can see the sub 20mph. On a TT setup you are probably 10+ minutes faster. I ride on my hoods mostly. It's pretty hilly around here so I'm constantly shifting, which I find hard to do when I'm in the drops. |
2011-05-26 10:43 AM in reply to: #3434029 |
Member 76 , | Subject: RE: BamaDC's Mentor Group v4.0 - Closed I would like to preface this post by stating that I'm horrible at math. Horrible. That being said, I have a question about the calculation function on the Training Log on BT. Basically, it seems to me that it isn't working properly. Or am I doing something wrong? For example, today I ran 3.1 miles in 22:34. I entered 3.1 in distance and 22:34 in mm:ss....but it calculates at 7:16 per mile. Which is inaccurate. And what's interesting is that if I enter 3,1 (notice that's a comma and not a decimal point) it calculates correctly at 7:31 per mile. But then shows up at 31 miles in my weekly/monthly charts. Could someone please explain this? Thanks. Edited by JCZ 2011-05-26 10:48 AM |
2011-05-26 11:56 AM in reply to: #3519937 |
Veteran 267 | Subject: RE: BamaDC's Mentor Group v4.0 - Closed JCZ - 2011-05-26 10:43 AM I would like to preface this post by stating that I'm horrible at math. Horrible. That being said, I have a question about the calculation function on the Training Log on BT. Basically, it seems to me that it isn't working properly. Or am I doing something wrong? For example, today I ran 3.1 miles in 22:34. I entered 3.1 in distance and 22:34 in mm:ss....but it calculates at 7:16 per mile. Which is inaccurate. And what's interesting is that if I enter 3,1 (notice that's a comma and not a decimal point) it calculates correctly at 7:31 per mile. But then shows up at 31 miles in my weekly/monthly charts. Could someone please explain this? Thanks. Looks right to me. To run @ 7:31 for 3.1 your overall time would be 23:18. But @ 22:34 your pace would actually be 7:16. Now, if you typed in 3.0 instead of 3.1 then 7:31 is correct for a time of 22:34. That could be the problem. I used another pace calculator (http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/4/4_1/96.shtml) to double check.
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2011-05-26 12:04 PM in reply to: #3519937 |
Master 2372 | Subject: RE: BamaDC's Mentor Group v4.0 - Closed JCZ - 2011-05-26 10:43 AM For example, today I ran 3.1 miles in 22:34. I entered 3.1 in distance and 22:34 in mm:ss....but it calculates at 7:16 per mile. Which is inaccurate. This is exactly correct. A 7:31 pace for a 5k is 23:35. |
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