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2010-04-26 8:17 AM
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distancegirl - 2010-04-26 8:33 AM A question for all you who have done IM before and have a coach.  I am a few weeks into having a coach and I like him so far.  He has a very good reputation.  Right now he has me at only 5-6 hours per week of training at these distances s/b/r ->3200m/55miles/14miles per week.  That seems low to me.  I was doing about 1/3 more before I hired him.  Is it hard for all you type A's like me to turn your training over to someone else???  I think I need someone to tell me to chill out and trust my (very experienced) new coach.


Ask him or her about it would be my suggestion. Understanding the why behind your training I find key to feel that my coach and I are on the same wave length about what we are doing.

So much depends what type of training you have been doing and what races you have planned between now and IM training really gets going.

I'm training a lot more but did a 70.3 yesterday and have 2 more in next 2.5 months.


2010-04-26 2:53 PM
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I'd die with only that much training even now. Communication is key with your coach. Don't let reputation be the guide.

My coach is actually doing IMFL with us. I think he's writing the blueprint, but he does so with my wants/needs/life in mind. My buddy is doing it with another coach and is much more to the plan.

Alot of it is what works best for you. I couldn't completely follow someone else's plan very well where others can flat out. He varies but not significantly as he figures he pays for the coaching and needs to allow himself to be coached.

My first coach, a running coach, fired me for not following the plan to the letter time and time again. It created alot of friction and I understand why (i.e., injury prevention etc)  he was doing it now more than then. But still, I need room to athletically express myself sometimes without fear of being fired.
 
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2010-04-28 8:39 PM
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When I hired my coach for IMFL in 2007, I did so in order to leave all the worry up to him.  I put all my trust in him.   It has paid off. 

As a coach now myself, I would never have a problem if an athlete asked why, but there is a reason I give rest days or slow days or whatever.   The problem with athletes that don't follow the plan is they often want to blame their coach when they don't get the results they want. 

I put a lot of thought into my athlete's plans..I don't believe in making up missed workouts, moving things around or doing some of what your coach recommends, some of what you feel you want to do.  

As mentioned, communication is crucial. 

2010-04-29 6:21 AM
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Sorry to have derailed this into another coaching thread. Lets get back on track. For those of you who have done GCT and IMFL, how similar are the courses? In what ways?
2010-04-29 6:49 AM
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phatknot - 2010-04-29 7:21 AM Sorry to have derailed this into another coaching thread. Lets get back on track. For those of you who have done GCT and IMFL, how similar are the courses? In what ways?



LOL.  I think it's all part of it - the decision to hire a coach or self coach, the doubts about our training, etc. -  so notsomuch a derailment as a discussion...*now, back to our regularly scheduled discussion* Laughing  From what I understand, GCT and IMFL are exactly the same, except the bike, since IMFL is a one loop course.  Is this true?
2010-04-29 7:11 AM
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KathyG - 2010-04-26 5:17 PM
distancegirl - 2010-04-26 8:33 AM A question for all you who have done IM before and have a coach.  I am a few weeks into having a coach and I like him so far.  He has a very good reputation.  Right now he has me at only 5-6 hours per week of training at these distances s/b/r ->3200m/55miles/14miles per week.  That seems low to me.  I was doing about 1/3 more before I hired him.  Is it hard for all you type A's like me to turn your training over to someone else???  I think I need someone to tell me to chill out and trust my (very experienced) new coach.


Ask him or her about it would be my suggestion. Understanding the why behind your training I find key to feel that my coach and I are on the same wave length about what we are doing.

So much depends what type of training you have been doing and what races you have planned between now and IM training really gets going.

I'm training a lot more but did a 70.3 yesterday and have 2 more in next 2.5 months.


Definitely ask about it if you're concerned...that's part of the deal of coaching!   But if I had to guess, I would say that he's probably starting you out conservative to make sure he doesn't injure you.  He's probably feeling out what you are capable of and what training he can put into you.  The last thing he wants to do is blitz you in the first few weeks and get you hurt.  I had a two week break last season and my coach STILL started me out super easy even though I told him I had been doing stuff.  It's probably just injury prevention!


2010-04-29 8:36 AM
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Hi I'm Rob from Lafayette, La.....I've been lurking this thread for a while because I'm looking to make the 2011 IMFL my first full distance race, I was planning to attend the 2010 race so i could register for a slot next year, then it dawned on me that I should volunteer to work the race if I'm already gonna be there.....and so I have....anyway just wanted to say hi and hope that I get to know and meet some of you along the way
2010-04-29 9:27 AM
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Rob, excellent idea to volunteer.  I did that last year so I could sign up for this year.  I was up early to see the swim go off, watched as swimmers came out of the water and into T1, watched some of the bike, watched the run, volunteered at the finish and stayed at the finish until midnight.  I also swam in the ocean and drove the bike course while there so I could get a feel for things.  I am so glad I did.  It was a wonderful experience and makes me look forward to this year so much more.

2010-04-29 10:45 AM
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bar92 - 2010-04-29 6:27 PM

Rob, excellent idea to volunteer.  I did that last year so I could sign up for this year.  I was up early to see the swim go off, watched as swimmers came out of the water and into T1, watched some of the bike, watched the run, volunteered at the finish and stayed at the finish until midnight.  I also swam in the ocean and drove the bike course while there so I could get a feel for things.  I am so glad I did.  It was a wonderful experience and makes me look forward to this year so much more.



Volunteering is SO much fun!  I worked the womens change tent last year...I was EXHAUSTED (I swear...I hurt more than if I'd run the ironman!) but it was great to interact with so many athletes during the day.  And I got to strip a couple of pro's wetsuits!  FUN!
2010-04-29 2:21 PM
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I volunteered last year as well. I was in transition handing bikes off to racers as they came out of the change tent for T1. I was able to head back to my hotel and get a run in along front beach road and then back to transition for the people coming in off their bikes. Definitely had fun being there and it gave me a little taste of what I was getting myself into for this year.
2010-04-30 9:50 AM
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Kathy, John and Briana are gonna bust a gut with this one, but after LoneStar this past weekend, I am also planning to volunteer 2010 for a possible entry 2011. I know I have a lot of work to do between now and then, but you people got me hooked.
Thanks... I think.

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2010-04-30 10:15 AM
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triplebypat - 2010-04-30 10:50 AM Kathy, John and Briana are gonna bust a gut with this one, but after LoneStar this past weekend, I am also planning to volunteer 2010 for a possible entry 2011. I know I have a lot of work to do between now and then, but you people got me hooked.
Thanks... I think.


Somehow that doesn't surprise me Patrick!

You will be there toeing the line in time for my 50th birthday which is day before IMFL in '11.
2010-04-30 2:18 PM
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For those of you who were at the 288 Lake swim on Friday for LoneStar, the pictures I took can be found at themagicofpictures.com/LoneStar.html
2010-04-30 2:51 PM
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Mimir98 - 2010-04-29 7:49 AM
phatknot - 2010-04-29 7:21 AM Sorry to have derailed this into another coaching thread. Lets get back on track. For those of you who have done GCT and IMFL, how similar are the courses? In what ways?



LOL.  I think it's all part of it - the decision to hire a coach or self coach, the doubts about our training, etc. -  so notsomuch a derailment as a discussion...*now, back to our regularly scheduled discussion* Laughing  From what I understand, GCT and IMFL are exactly the same, except the bike, since IMFL is a one loop course.  Is this true?


GCT and IMFL are very similar.  I did GCT last year getting ready for IMFL and I am so glad I did.
The swim is the same course, just IMFL is two loops.  The bike is a little different, but at GCT you ride some of the IMFL course.  And the run is exactly the same, again IMFL is just two loops where GCT is one.  

Doing GCT helping me so much....after that race I would actually visualize myself on the IMFL course.

Good luck to you all.  I wish you good weather and a clean course.
I hope you reach/exceed your goals/dreams!   Have fun out there.
2010-04-30 4:43 PM
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Thanks Havin'Fun. That really helps! Hope everyone had solid Aprils.

Although swim is down, Phatknot ended the month strong after not being able to run the first half of the month:

April's totals:
Bike:40h 37m 08s  - 820.13 Mi
Run:11h 59m 15s  - 86.82 Mi
Swim:12h 56m 43s  - 37800 Yd
Strength:7h 30m
Aqua Jogging:1h 47m
Stretching:3h 28m

March's totals:
Bike:34h 30m 53s  - 688.09 Mi
Run:5h 35m 54s  - 47.61 Mi
Swim:13h 53m 32s  - 41700 Yd
Strength:3h 35m
Stretching:10h 05m

2010-04-30 6:20 PM
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Nice job phatknot!

Everyone is at different place training so no need to compare..but fun to see what everyone else is doing. I had my first 70.3 of the year last weekend so had a taper and recovery week which effects totals. I did lots of riding and it has helped my cycling power come back some. Biggest run and bike month so far this year...

April's totals:
Bike:32h 43m 06s  - 515.64 Mi
Run:16h 30m 13s  - 85.76 Mi
Swim:10h 05m 41s  - 25720 Yd
ART:1h 40m
Crossfit:2h 00m
Yoga:15m

March's totals:
Bike:23h 17m 55s  - 361.6 Mi
Run:13h 49m 43s  - 71.94 Mi
Swim:13h 20m 43s  - 27050 Yd
Crossfit:6h 00m
Foam Rolling:30m
Massage:1h 15m

 
 


2010-04-30 6:21 PM
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very true and thanks KathyG. don't compare. just follow your plan.  im a volume lover but trying to do more quality this year.
2010-04-30 6:30 PM
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Alright just did a 40 miler to finish off April. Very happy with the progress so far and hope to up the volume a bit more next month.

April's totals:

Bike:16h 42m 47s  - 301.8 Mi
Run:6h 13m 42s  - 46.41 Mi
Swim:6h 27m 33s  - 17400 Yd

March's totals:
Bike:9h 58m 48s  - 180.4 Mi
Run:4h 45m 53s  - 36.33 Mi
Swim:4h 34m 18s  - 11750 Yd
2010-04-30 6:48 PM
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I'll take this:

April's totals:
Bike:32h 12m 34s  - 412.84 Mi
Run:11h 02m 25s  - 58.93 Mi
Swim:12h 44m 50s  - 31550 M
Strength:3h 50m
Massage:3h 00m
Stretching:2h 05m

March's totals:
Bike:22h 10m 14s  - 280.83 Mi
Run:11h 46m 04s  - 57.58 Mi
Swim:11h 15m 42s  - 26800 M
Strength:5h 10m
Massage:2h 00m
Stretching:3h 00m
2010-04-30 6:59 PM
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this sums up April for me

Injury survery
1-Left knee......this one is FINALLY better.  Thank GOD.  I have had pain at my hamstring insertion off and on for 4 years plus pain at my patella tendon.  This was made worse by some strengthening which I eliminated and after a few weeks it got better YAY.  This was REALLY  prohibiting me on so many levels I can't tell you how happy I am its better
2-Left ankle......This is the ankle I have had 5 surgeries on.  Its VERY stiff and I stepped on a branch about 3 weeks ago and tried to roll it.  I have a hole thru the end of my fibula from one of the surgeries and the bone is very tender.  Its really not so happy right now with running.
3-Left achilles......I've been battling this for about a year and a half now.  On the upside it used to be BOTH and now its just one so I guess that is progress (I need to take small victories where I can)  It does not hurt running about 90% of the time, more frequently hurts biking and it rarely hurts walking but if you touch it OWIE.  I'm doing everything I can for it but its sore, swollen and of COURSE decided it did NOT want to participate at St. Anthony's
4-Left calf.....For some reason every couple weeks I am running and this gets strained.  Feels like its ripping.  May be related to #3 but it tends to heal quickly only to happen again and again.  Annoying as just as I start to increase my running mileage it flares.
5-Right hip....This one REALLY and I mean REALLY pisses me off.  Stress fracture in 2005, got over that but had difficulty for a LONG time.  FINALLY it got better then it got upset last year in around september.  Took 6 weeks off running after IMFL, started a new strength program to try and get it quieted down FINALLY it stops hurting after 6 months.  What happens?  I wreck my bike and fall RIGHT ON IT.  On a day to day basis right now this is my major injury.  My hip flexor and adductor are extremely painful.  I could barely walk to the car last night after swimming.

I just want to be uninjured.

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2010-05-01 5:26 AM
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A day lake so i don't have  my march totals up on my training log anymore and I don't know how to get them...

April's totals:
Bike:16h 24m 30s  - 429.7 KM
Run:14h 03m 45s  - 124.59 KM
Swim:11h 02m 45s  - 33150 M
Strength:1h 25m
Hiking:3h 00m

I've finally been able to get outside!  yay!  Bike about the same as March but that is going to start to grow as I have a HIM at the end of June.  Run up (half marathon in two weeks) and swim is up slightly from last month (mostly because I only missed one swim in March).
2010-05-01 7:52 AM
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Daffodil - 2010-05-01 2:26 PM A day lake so i don't have  my march totals up on my training log anymore and I don't know how to get them...

April's totals:
Bike:16h 24m 30s  - 429.7 KM
Run:14h 03m 45s  - 124.59 KM
Swim:11h 02m 45s  - 33150 M
Strength:1h 25m
Hiking:3h 00m

I've finally been able to get outside!  yay!  Bike about the same as March but that is going to start to grow as I have a HIM at the end of June.  Run up (half marathon in two weeks) and swim is up slightly from last month (mostly because I only missed one swim in March).


It cycles to the next month as soon as you log something.  So, when you log your first workout on 1 May, March disappears...
2010-05-01 8:47 AM
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Hello everyone!  First post, long time lurker.
Rookie IM.

April Totals:
Bike:       340 mi
Run:       56.5 mi
Swim:     8800 yds


Thanks for the inspiration!
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searisk - 2010-05-01 8:47 AM Hello everyone!  First post, long time lurker.
Rookie IM.

April Totals:
Bike:       340 mi
Run:       56.5 mi
Swim:     8800 yds


Thanks for the inspiration!


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